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    That's right.

    A male chimpanzee in a Swedish zoo planned hundreds of stone-throwing attacks on zoo visitors, according to researchers.

    Keepers at Furuvik Zoo found that the chimp collected and stored stones that he would later use as missiles.

    Further, the chimp learned to recognise how and when parts of his concrete enclosure could be pulled apart to fashion further projectiles.

    The findings are reported in the journal Current Biology.

    There has been scant evidence in previous research that animals can plan for future events.

    Crucial to the current study is the fact that Santino, a chimpanzee at the zoo in the city north of Stockholm, collected the stones in a calm state, prior to the zoo opening in the morning.

    The launching of the stones occurred hours later - during dominance displays to zoo visitors - with Santino in an "agitated" state.

    This suggests that Santino was anticipating a future mental state - an ability that has been difficult to definitively prove in animals, according to Mathias Osvath, a cognitive scientist from Lund University in Sweden and author of the new research.

    "We've done experimental studies, and the chimps in my mind show very clearly that they do plan for future needs, but it has been argued that perhaps this was an experimental artefact," Dr Osvath told BBC News.

    "Now we have this spontaneous behaviour, which is always in some sense better evidence."

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    Dr Osvath embarked on the study after zoo staff discovered caches of stones in the section of the enclosure facing the public viewing area.

    Since the initial discovery in 1997, hundreds of the caches have been removed to protect visitors, to whom the caching and the aggressive displays seem strictly related; in the off season, Santino neither hoards the projectiles nor hurls them.
    Ammunition pile (M Osvath)
    The chimp stashed hundreds of stones in anticipation of throwing them

    Most interestingly, Santino seems to have learned how to spot weak parts of the concrete "boulders" in the centre of the enclosure.

    When water seeps into cracks in the concrete and freezes, portions become detached that make a hollow sound when tapped.

    Santino was observed gently knocking on the "boulders", hitting harder to detach bits that were loosened and adding those to his stashes of ammunition.

    There are a number of examples of complex behaviour in apes that suggest forms of consciousness.

    Planning behaviour like that of the current work is connected to so-called autonoetic consciousness, where information due to memory can be distinguished from that from the senses.

    "I'm personally convinced that at least chimps do plan for future needs, that they do have this autonoetic consciousness," Dr Osvath said.

    "I hope that other zoos or those in the wild will look more closely at what is happening," he added.

    "I bet there must be a lot of these kinds of behaviours out there, and I wouldn't be surprised if we find them in dolphins or other species."
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    Lmao, did the chimp come from Saudi?

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    If it weren't from the BBC, I'd be tempted to say 'Chimpanzee That!' It looks like a load of old Monkey News to me...

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    Hell i'd probably do the same thing if someone locked me up and had people come by to gawk at me every day. Way to go buddy.




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    I've actually met the chimp in question. He have a very "special" relationship to his trainer (who raised him). He is highly protective of her and often threatens the guests when she is standing in the crowd to lead some of the shows.

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    We must assassinate this future Monkey General before the War between Mankind and Chimpkind




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    Quote Originally Posted by Adar View Post
    I've actually met the chimp in question. He have a very "special" relationship to his trainer (who raised him). He is highly protective of her and often threatens the guests when she is standing in the crowd to lead some of the shows.

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    I see what you mean, after all he's totally feeling her up .

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Kamos View Post
    I see what you mean, after all he's totally feeling her up .
    He's thinking ahead, hominid-style. He's checking her out, so when he is stronger than Brock Lesnar but only 4 foot tall he can rip her face off with ease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adar View Post
    I've actually met the chimp in question. He have a very "special" relationship to his trainer (who raised him). He is highly protective of her and often threatens the guests when she is standing in the crowd to lead some of the shows.

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    Ever heard of Julius, the Chimp in Kristiansand? He used to be the same.

    Now he's just an old, grumpy alpha-male shrieking at everyone who moves past his enclosure. I've seen him. He's cool.
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    When my dad fought in Vietnam he said there was a certain type of ape that would always throw rocks at them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick1191 View Post
    When my dad fought in Vietnam he said there was a certain type of ape that would always throw rocks at them.
    The Vietkong?

    Had to be done.

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    An interesting showcase of animal behaviour.

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    Very interesting, I wonder what they'll discover next.
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    Suicide bombings.

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    The chimp wants to be free. He has my sympathies.

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    personally im glad theyve upgraded to rocks from what they usually throw.




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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMofo View Post
    personally im glad theyve upgraded to rocks from what they usually throw.
    quoted for truth. Very sticky.
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    My sister was ambushed once in the zoo by these terrorists. Yet those used there traditional ammo lol .

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    Call me when he fashions something trans-continental and atomic. ing monkeys always tryin to steal our thunder.

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    Yeah, chimps are so cute. Great pets etc. Until you are a naked man forced to live in the wild and they beat you to death with big sticks.

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