Loading Quick Save and Auto Save = CTD

[G Rider]

I put a fair bit of time into this new campaign and I can't resume it. both auto save and quick save crash to desktop while loading.

[SPARTAN VI]

Yep, several others have this same issue, myself included. Submitted a trouble ticket, I just wont play ETW until this is fixed.

As for what's causing it, someone think it has something to do with interactions with Huron. Possible.. the one save game of mine that does load is just before I wiped Huron off the map. I'm not going to play through that crap again, too long ago.

I think it may have something to do with the file sizes of the ETW saves. M2TW file sizes were always below 4mb on average. My ETW saves are upwards of about 75-80mb each!

[G Rider]

I have many save games that crash my England campaign while loading. One works but was 20+ turns ago. I'm wondering if that was the last save before I restored from an auto save and continued on.

Maybe the bug comes from continuing from an auto save and then all saves after are corrupted? Clicking continue campaign could load an auto save also.

As for gentlemen corrupting. I am another that never even used gentlemen besides in my own schools and have this bug in more than on campaign.

I'm reluctant to start another campaign but if I do I'm going to avoid at all costs loading an auto save ever. That means never clicking continue campaign button in the main menu.

[Tassen]

I make a 'real' save every now and then during playing, and always as the last thing I do before I stop playing for the night. I do use the quick save for saving inbetween, but first thing every day before I start to play again, I delete both the quick and auto save and then load from my 'real' save I did last thing the night before.

[StevenXVI]

I've got the same problem. When I try to load 'Turn 23' my game crashes, that also counts for turn 20 & auto save. From Turn 19 on it stops crashing.

[Geordi La Forge]

If you start another campaign, take out all the American natives as fast as you can.

The Hurons caused about 10 ctds and eventually corrupted all my saves in 2 GB campaigns.
In my third campaign I'm working on wiping out all the native American factions (and Pirates) as fast as I can (sounds evil huh),using autocalc mostly. It seems to work, I have destroyed Hurons, Pueblo, Pirates and suffered not that many ctds, and most importantly, no save game data corruptions have occurred. I'm in the 1730s now and almost done with Cherokee too so that leaves the Plains faction.

I'm sorry I can't really help you, only thing I can advise is have a separate save every few of turns and alt-tab and copy the save to a temporary folder as backup. Mind you, this is more or less just speculation and not necessarily correct.

some related links
http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/topic...f-crashes.html
http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/topic...sh.html?page=3

[SPARTAN VI]

The indian thing sounds like a case of post hoc ergo propter hoc, ie. it occured after "it" therefore "it" is the cause. i only noticed the crash after I had already eliminated Huron. The last save that works is the siege just before they got wiped out.

[Battletoads]

I have this but it crashes when it is Austria turn on turn 54 and I do not want to start again (I have never got so far in the campaign to make light infantry,the saves always corrupt)

[Spaxspore]

I have this but it crashes when it is Austria turn on turn 54 and I do not want to start again (I have never got so far in the campaign to make light infantry,the saves always corrupt)

Same with my French campaign (thats why i started a swed.) as soon as Austria does there turn around 50ish-55ish CTD... every time.

2 game breakers in a row.

Im going to wait for a patch and stop wasting my time with this.

[Radagast the Brown]

To make it even worse!

I started 4 British Campains yet!

I cant load a single save file. No manual saved games and no auto saved games!

Perhaps I corrupted my save games via auto save function! If understand the trouble shooting in this thread right?

They better fix that fast, because you cant play the game at all!

I just just paid 45€ for a game thats not working at all!

Never buy a game when its released, it will take time for the producers to finish there product first via patches!

thats soooooooooo f.cked up

[Lord of the Isles]

The indian thing sounds like a case of post hoc ergo propter hoc, ie. it occured after "it" therefore "it" is the cause. i only noticed the crash after I had already eliminated Huron. The last save that works is the siege just before they got wiped out.

I think that's right. I found it plausible when I was playing Britain for a while. The Hurons were often at war and therefore you interacted more with them than any other faction and that was usually where my CTDs happened. But then I played a British game where the Hurons never declared war on me, and I got further than usual (turn 56 or so?) but then the CTD problem happened anyway, and was more or less repeatable, and didn't involve the Hurons.

Add to that, I've played one game as Prussia and one as United Provinces, and both ended up CTDing, nothing to do with North America, and I think the Indian theory is a red herring.

Mind you, I say problem when I begin to wonder if the circumstances under which these occur are so varied that there may be multiple problems all with similar symptoms. I really hope not though, since that might take a fair time to track down and patch.

[cspimp]

I started running into this problem about turn 100 with a Prussia Campaign. Thankfully I'm obsessive compulsive and always do real saves every several turns. For a couple days, I would lose two turns or so every now and then when a save would corrupt. At that point I was still using quick saves. For the last two days I have stopped using them and have saved games as many as twice a turn. I have not had many problems using this strategy. It takes up a lot of space, but you can always go delete some of the older ones. Sometimes, if you save before a battle, it will ctd at the same point once the battle has started. Autoresolves seem to solve this problem. Just hope your command skill was not needed for that battle. So just save a lot and even load those saves every once and while to make sure they are working. No point saving all the time if the last one that works was five turns ago.

I just kicked those damn Turks out of Europe and retook Constantinople. That's right it's the Hagia Sophia again. 4 Jaegers, 5 guards, 7 line inf 2 light dragoons (to chase down routers) 1 mortar, 1 General = 122 lost, 1674 killed on very hard. Hip! Hip! Also sank 92 ships of their navy over 3 turns. I guess galleys and other riff raff do not do so well against 1st and 2nd rates.

[Borsig]

yes mine is england about turn 109.

Same thing

Right now CA is leaving a REAL sour taste in my mouth.. Hard lockdown of special forces units. Marketing the game as highly moddable then slapping you on the hand when you dare speak of modding their broken ass game. And chaining it to steam. All the great reviews when most nations are nothing more than cut and paste reskinned crap.

Who wants to start another campain to just have this happen again eh?

[Decivox]

I am having the same CTD when trying to load a autosave problem as Austria. I am hesitant to start over again because I am scared the same is going to happen.

[centurie]

I put a fair bit of time into this new campaign and I can't resume it. both auto save and quick save crash to desktop while loading.

do i what did and still do...if you have a save that keeps crashing and you can;t go any further with it..copy the save from the saved game folder and put it on another computer or if you duel boot put it on there ,install the game on the other computer then start from that save..you will find that you can continue..thats what i did.and it works.
don't ask me how it works cause i don't know..because you would think that if the saved game file is corrupted it would not work on any other computer .but it does.
once you get passed the bad point save and place it back into your other computer..

[jeans555]

Same problem but Im on turn 7! I haven't even really gotten into the game yet. However I had some crazy luck and captured some sweet pirate ships and I don't want to start again. The game loads to about 10% and bang it shuts off. As far as the native thing goes, I guess I do have a missionary in the Native lands so that Hypothesis seems to work. Damn they better fix this.

[narva]

I played past 1750 with my Swedish campaign and is getting CTD with the auto save, quick save and my game save. Good times

[Sharpe]

Its so fustrating. I was doing so well into the year 1736, with an amazingly experienced army, and plenty of tech, and all of a sudden it wont load. What a waste of time, I truly feel robbed.

[G Rider]

To restate:

I have many save games that crash my England campaign while loading. One works but was 20+ turns ago.

Maybe the bug comes from continuing from an auto save and then all saves after are corrupted? Clicking continue campaign could load an auto save.

I've started several campaigns and have avoided at all costs loading an auto save ever. That means never clicking continue campaign button in the main menu.

Not one corrupt save for over two days now. Can others see if this is a temp remedy?

[*TN]

Its not that.
I have a save as UP when I am on the brink of taking Paris and therby destroying the faction France.
-> If I do take Paris and destroy France all save games after that are corrupt and dont load.
-> If I give France another province so they are not destroyed when I capture Paris then save games after that still function.
In summary I guess somehow when I destroy France, by some bug part of it still survives, maybe an agent somewhere (see below). When the game tries to load this the contradiction makes it CTD.

One thing I have noticed once was a brigadier?! in the 'agents' tab of one of my fleets. I think glitches like this cannot be handled by the code. Once these things exist they are in a kind of limbo, cant be moved or destroyed. I got rid of the brigadier by scuppering the ship. Its my opinion France has some such agent somewhere that doesnt get deleted when France does. This causes the crash on load.