My US- Nightmare
Okay, was a long nite, one might forgive me this thread. Anyway, this is the mudpit ain´t it? Time to throw some mud then.
I happened to listen to this youtube stream:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_odJ...eature=related
It actually doesnt have too much to do (in the core it has, but not that obviously) with what I wanna deal here.
Theres a radio host and gerald celente discussing the inevidable breakdown, and how, with no logical terms explainable, Obama is praised as the messiah. They displayed a short audio excerpt of a guy who talks to obama as if he was god the allmighty.
Where I live, we do not design our News Shows like a gambling den as it´s so often the case in the US and we dont create computergame like thrillers when discussing a topic (as those lurid presentations of wars in the US "News". One might think one is watching a video game or football match when your hosts present conflicts where people die- a mindset I often come across when I see some folks post (We kicked your ass!- what a stupid bunch of retards if I may admit that)).
Okay, I (we) prefer pure, rational information,( and we dont name our experts by their first name creating a fake sense of intimacy by the way). Clowns like King or O´Reilly wouldnt stand a chance here... but I am drifting off topic here... (stop ranting +clap on the fingers).
But our News lie nonetheless aswell- not as obvious as in the US, but they leave out important aspects, or leave things unclear not to endanger the agenda that´s running here (a good example was georgia, where it was ABSOLUTELY clear that georgia was the USrael back uped aggressor- our media, aware it couldnt lie that obviously, so it preferred to leave it unclear who attacked... "lying by not telling", thats how you could describe it . Till today I didnt come across any TV report blaming the guilty. They didnt blame anyone (in contrast to the US, that outwardly lied at the US people by naming russia the guilty, and if I may add that: a whole bunch still does). Anyways, another incident was an interview with putin, where our media left out VITAL parts of what he said (created a huge outrage on their website which forced them to at least post the entire video afterwards.)
Incidents as this explain, why some years ago i pretty much abandoned my TV (I occasionally use it as a kind of radio, but it runs less than 2 hours a week- if at all. I gather my information from the web. I read several Newspaper sites (official media) aswell as Blogs (which I read a several everyday, once theres a conflict, within the same day, I get a good backround info on the topic (sometimes I know of them before they happen.) This "blogpottburry" is well mixed, and no, I dont read alex jones, and if I do, I do so carefully as he is "too loud" in my opinion, maybe he is even purposefully missleading people. sometimes I got the impression, he presents bits of the truth, to offer the wrong interpretation/false leading direction then. Just my opinion. Well.
I researched every single conflict when it happened since Kosovo and I think I got a pretty good clue on whats going on (it does not include reptiles, this I may leak here)- but one is for sure always:
Disbelieve whatever the media tells you.
They blatantly lie or they distort the info by leaving key aspects out. Mistrust any word they say.
Especially when it´s about Obama to get the spin back on topic.
As I said in the beginning, I listened to that stream and I linked what they said about Obama with a blog (actually podcast) I listened to earlier. A question posed in that podcast (it got not answered by the speaker) was:
What can Obama, a black president do, what no white president could?
Thats a simple question but would be worth it´s own thread, to shorten things: The conclusion is obvious anyways-he can do what NO white president could.
This is important to keep in mind and it´s important to make this CONSCIOUS to oneself. He can do what no other president could do.
Obama, in case of-lets say- uproars, could implement harsh sanctions on the public (the legal base for this got set up by Bush), that-if performed by a whitey, would cause massive racial uproars. I refer to martial law and his civil force, intended to be "as powerful and as mighty as the US military".
And this "civil force" is my concern. The US will crash, time to speak realisticaly, it will collapse economically AND socially. There will be millions without food, heating, gas, even food. The US has a historic low on food reserves and food production.
I mean YOUVE SEEN KATHRINA, what will happen when the entire country collapses ?!
Now imagine, you got tens of millions of hungry, perspecitveless poors of ethnic "minorities" (i dont exclusively mean the whites, although one has the impression that whites are the minority now, or exclusively the colored peoples) that are willing/forced to use violence in order to go on living.
If you lose everything, you lose it. And people nowadays are 1 job away from sleeping under the bridge. (celente)
The numbers of the US on terms of alphabetism, infrastructure, education and ethnical homogenity are... catastrophic. Everything that guarantees stability in times of lifethreatening times to a nation, all these aspects have a high potential danger in the US. Call me a racist (Ive been labelled worsem call me what you want, I do not post to make any friends ),
well, the potential for violence cannot be overrestimated. How to deal with violent, masses of people? What to do with the blacks, the hispanics, the asians? Or the whites?
=> Lock ´em away, and let blacks, hispanics, and asians (and whites) do it.
If McCain tried this, installing a federally guided militia, he would be called a racist pretending not to be racist by using ehtnical minorities when it gets serious. Obama in contrast will be trusted, he cannot be racist as he is black himself. And he got the support needed by those people.
Give that hopeless, direction- and perspectiveless people a fancy uniform and a knobkerrie, and they gonna lock up anyone. Give these people a mission, and they do it for their messiah.
It is common sense to use hispanic cops in hispanic crowded parts of the city, it is common sense to use asian cops in chinatown, and it is common sense to use the minorities to handle the minorities (ethnical "minorities", well majorities actually, heck you get my point allright?)
We have seen all sorts of fanatism in the US for a while now, i think of jesus camps (fanatism is not only an issue of the blacks and hispanics obviously) where they praised that cardboard Bush figure...
The US- today, is a multicultural meltpot and I see the realistic danger, that this fancy experiment of hyper multiculturalism forced upon all the western nations, will see a tragic and bloody end due to this crisis.
Many assume, the US might break apart. A therory i find highly propable aswell, but what if the collapse is before the states did separate? What if the US is still "intact" when those millions flood the streets? Then there will be a nationwide program, and they will recruit the poor and create a nationwide "police state". Actually this term is false, it is not a police state, its a corporatocracy. A fascist (merge of banks and state=fascism according to mussolini) state, ruled by banks and corporations. Pretty much like the US is today, but without that nasty appendix called "senate" or "congress".
Many doubt the existance of detention camps, call it conspiracy theory..., I suggest you read this:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl.../ED5OUPQJ7.DTL
"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist."
- Winston Churchill, Nov. 21, 1943
(If I´d ever meet churchill, Id break his forehead, but here he´s correct).
I am too lazy and this text is pretty long, but I am willing to compile the data (I actually described them in another thread a long time ago, where I warned of them and of the crisis. The crisis is here now).
Actually I know of this crisis since 2006, when it first was described in the blogosphere, and since then I´ve seen it come true. I´ve seen the first steps of PNAC come true, all those recent wars EXACTLY represent what was described there, yugoslavia, kosovo, afghanistan, Iraq, ... all these conflicts were PREDICTED. They do not come out of thin air folks, and this aint conspiracy theory (I know how those ignorant semi intelligents like that term discreditting everything they dont understand or that frightens them).
When I see movies as this:
(please consider that rational title our little frightened dude gave it) I see only one logical explanation to it:
Creating panic, and creating a climate of violence (who wasnt tempted to buy some more ammo after watching this?) My dire impression is:
That is excatly what is intended and violence is the least thing to do- as violence justifies more violence from the "government".
I do not think, the US will become a new kind of mexico with kidnappings and stuff as to be seen in mexico city, I think, it will finally lose the rest of its freedom and turn into a fascist state (which it actually is) controlled by militia, police and in the beginning at least- the military (untill things settled down and the biggest uproars is dealt with).
[Some will shout out: We are not a fascist nation.
Hmm, yes you are. You are highly militarized, you have an far beyond average degree of nationalism and militarism, you have a dictatorship like president (not even soviet russia gave that much power over the lets say, the nukes, into one man´s hands), you have an enourmous loss of civil rights (enemy combatant anyone?) and you live in belief of an permanent external threat (terrorism). And now you have the final stepstone: The merge of state and banks.
Your media refers to this as "the US is becoming socialistic". NO, it is fascistic.
If I had to write a report for univercity (I studied sociology), I am pretty sure i could proof the fascist character of the US within 18-25 pages that I usually needed usually for a report...it doesnt needgoosestep and race supremacy to create fascism, well, some still need to see a swastika to recognize fascism, anyways...]
I hope this nightmare stays what it is at the moment: an educated guess.
-Goji
P.S.Excuse the spelling errors, too tired to correct them all now
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