The (Old) Official ETW Criticism Thread

[ccappiello]

You need a much better processor/video card than in the other games, so a lot of people can't play it without buying an expensive gaming computer.

Am I the only one who thinks the games started going downhill after rome?

I never installed Empire, but under RTW program files you could go to the folder data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign and click the descr_strat text file. the first thing in this file was the list of playable and nonplayable factions. you could then move the nonplayable ones to playable and play as them.

actually with med2 you just had to beat a campaign to unlock the other fifteen or so. but I agree 20-30 is an exaggeration...more like 10-20

[Wolfgrin]

One rant goes unnoticed. One thousand rants might - MIGHT - get noticed. Even then, will SEGA/CA care?

I agree with most of the rants I've read. But, the most important thing said here, so far IMHO, is that there is a trend toward worse and worse products in this series. Shogun and MTW were awesome for their time. Rome, M:TW2 and Empire have turned out to be computer programs full of shiny game features, but no game. The modders made Rome and M:TW2 into real games. CA needs to release the modding tools for Empire, so our community can finish the job they started.

And to my point, notice CA's most recent announcement about new units. That's fine, but ultimately, what use are new units in a game that is broken and/or no fun to play?

[Lethn]

- Some signficant work on multiplayer campaign beta code today, with some synching issues fixed and UI/game options being 'wired in'. Allowing players to select turn time properly.

- Further additions include new game unit art being integrated into the latest build for the new free units. The replacement units will now override default units for their given faction, giving different nations more variety.

We're also working to get you further details of the free units which will all be released shortly via Steam, they will be worth the wait.

Kind regards,
Kieran

They'll happily give us retarded units that won't work because of the mass of bugs and technical issues in this game but to actually fix the problems they've caused in a patch along with that? God forbid!

Of course I'm reserving myself on the idea that they will be nice to us and give us the patch along with the new units but somehow I'm very doubtful of that.

[Humble Warrior]

Someone posted this on CA`s forum..

Quote:


"You have bought a duff game that CA sold you under false pretences with the complicit support of all the trade press with their ludicrous false reviews. It has taken them 3 months of nonsense to get it to the release standard it is roughly at today minus a lot of promised features. They even had the bare faced cheek to tell you that the 1.1 patch had fixed most of the major problems and that the only reason it was released originally in such !#!% state was the community had gone past their thousands of hours of testing within the first hour of release so they couldn't be expected to have noticed the problems. What? Really? Did more than 8 people have a game out of the box that stood up to more than 5 hours without a major CTD? That theory could only possibly be true if there were so few problems that it would, on average, take many hours on any particular game to find a problem. Nonsense) . They keep dripping you bits of info saying they have fixed x and y today and built you z free unit but strangely never release small patches involving x,y,z or anything else for that matter.

BUT WHAT IS REALLY WORRYING A LOT OF YOU IS THAT THEY HAVEN'T BOTHERED TO BE EFFICIENT ABOUT THE DRIP OF NONSENSE.

Please get a grip.

Either take a view that their actions are unforgivable and stop paying them any attention and your hard earned cash in future or pipe down about missing daily updates. It is a good game now and when they eventually get themselves together it will be a very good game although you have to suspect that it will be limited by the fact that many of the issues are too deep in the engine to resolve with patches. If they weren't it probably wouldn't of taken more than 3 months to fix them.

CA have lied to you all the way thro this and will continue to as it suits them and they must laugh their heads off that you are all clinging to their every word as if it means something. Keep an eye out for a release date for 1.3, add a week when they miss it then add a couple of days for them to fix the things it messes up and you won't be too disappointed. I fear for some of you if your partner ever cheats on you. There is none so blind as those who won't see and some of you guys would make great patsy's for a nasty partner. Begging your partner to tell you how much she loves you is a bit pointless when you have categoric evidence that she loves someone else and is only keeping you in the house cos you pay the rent. Kick her out or if the sex is good enough shut up about it and enjoy the ride."


CA won`t like it and he will get banned as soon as they see it and I think he knows it, but damn, it`s worth it to tell the TRUTH! I`m sick of the people who are so gullible after 3 months of broken promises. What should be done is send an unmistakable message to CA and see them truly apologise for what they did.

[Prof]

Must be the same reason they made most of the units exact copies of each other. God forbid they put TIME into their game that we pay money to play.

I agree with pretty much every negative thing said about this game. It's horribly disappointing that they released such a clearly unfinished product.

lol...don't you have eyes in your head?

Not even the uniforms and the equipment they are carrying is the samge in one unit...I've got some Prussians wearing Prussian Blue and some wearing black and some colours in between those two. They too all have different backpacks and stuff like that and their faces are, except for the fact that they are shaved, NOT the same. If you can't tell the difference between 2 men without facial hair I pity you.

The only thing that annoys me are the constant crashes...especially at the end of long battles.

[Jingles]

Meh. I still want it. Even if it's just so I can mod it.

[Kogen]

Oh, good. Glad I misread that.

I really liked Medieval 2 and it took several months to get it running right with patches and mods. Sadly I think the same thing will happen now.

Also CA said you can unlock the other factions by editing files. Do not worry about it.

[Travisfv]

I'm just saying, this is the time of uniform armies. Hell, uniform would be half the reason for signing up. A good set of clothes that one looks handsome in is a deal for years of military service.

Also, I don't see the point in complaining about faces being similar. What are you doing during a battle, looking at your men, or trying to get the upper hand and go home alive? The only time I look at my men that closely is in the deployment phase. After that I'm too busy keeping them going and killing the enemy to care that they all have the same beard.

[peterbcfcfan]

I hated constant siege battles. More land battles it what was needed.

[Jihada]

Being a Napoleonic fan I agree that armies of that period had much different uniforms..cut of coat,different shakos etc. I'm not sure of earlier SYW type armies , but a look at the Kronoskaf Seven Years War site made me think perhaps there wasn't a lot of difference except for colour of coat and facings in the earlier 18th cen. It would be nice if a player could colour his units himself to vary the appearance of different regiments and armies.

[Chuffy]

It is clearly rushed.

So were Rome and M2.

Rome total war & METW2 -> unique armies, larger battles, allowed reinforcements.

Empire has all of these with the exception of 'unique' armies and thats just because of the period. Med2 wasn't exactly very varied and the supposed variety of Rome started to get stale once you'd fought the blue barbarians, the red barbarians, the green barbarians etc.

Return of the clone armies.

There doesn't seem to be as much variety in the actual units true, but that doesn't mean it isn't there. Also; uniforms.

12 playable factions compared to the 20-30 in the other two games.

Which Rome and M2 were you playing with 20 playable factions? As I recall Rome had a meagre 3 to start with and Med2 had 5. The rest became playable only through modding (or if you wanted to bother with destroying the appropriate factions in the campaign).

2 turn years for 1700-1800. That's like the first half of Rome total war, that's what it feels like. LAME.

Thats 200 turns. And I never completed a single campaign in vanilla Rome anyway. There's also the fact you have about far more things to be doing each turn than you did in Rome.

It's going to take a mod to finish the game because I don't see all the problems being fixed with just patches until a long time.

Yup sounds like Rome and Med2.

[Doge Domenico]

ETW is alright its...... worth about 30 bucks imho. I try to give the game the benifit of the doubt. You know even though the units are bland the combat is pretty. Or the actual battle gameplay is repetitive but finishers are awesome. It sucks but i havent given up on it. M2TW sucked until the second patch and awesome mods like LTC DLV and SS came out. When they give modders the chance they will make execellent mods and the game will rock

this is after the patches.

[kjeltringen]

ETW is alright its...... worth about 30 bucks imho. I try to give the game the benifit of the doubt. You know even though the units are bland the combat is pretty. Or the actual battle gameplay is repetitive but finishers are awesome. It sucks but i havent given up on it. M2TW sucked until the second patch and awesome mods like LTC DLV and SS came out. When they give modders the chance they will make execellent mods and the game will rock

this is after the patches.

This isn't going to happen. Modders won't be given the chance to make gameplayaltering or even expanding mods because that's what CA and Sega hope to put into expansions.

It's a bloody outrage that they can't release a working product.

[The Noble Lord]

ETW is alright its...... worth about 30 bucks imho.

Heh, I paid $139.95 for the Collector's Edition and now you can't get rid of it because of the darn steam .

[F@32]

1.3 hotfix and I can't play battles - CTD every time... With or without mods, different sound settings and etc. So freaking pissed, almost done with GC and can't finish it now. Was fine pre-hot fix.

[Doge Domenico]

Heh, I paid $139.95 for the Collector's Edition and now you can't get rid of it because of the darn steam .

Dude, doesnt that make you just want to i know steam makes me want to

[Armfelt]

Empire total war -> Return of the clone armies.

You are avery that in this period of European history armies were the most uniformed throught history?

[Weehamish]

The game is bad bad bad, why defend a rushed game? The sea battles are not even that good. infact there REALLY boring, and the different ammo types make no difference at all really, i mean they have stolen the sea battles from other ship based games and put there graphics on them but the gameplay is HORRIBLE, i mean they could of atleast added grapples and waves, maybe different ships for diff races?

To be honest come on the ship battles are really bland and crap!! 0 cannon modifactions or hull mods!

My idea is way better then these!

First off instead of MASS spam of ships with crappy battles, they should of made the ships bigger and added more detail and slowed it down and had propper broadside battles instead of the crap we have! Has anyone played the old pirate games that cost £5 for 3in1?? ETW has stolen the same combat style from them but made it WORSE!!! And just juiced up the graphics.

Really bad game, TW shud leave the ship battles to auto and made the game BETTER! By adding ship battles in the game it has sufferd and lost the needed attention to make the MAIN part of the game work, its really CRAP!

[Megasalexandros]

The game is bad bad bad, why defend a rushed game? The sea battles are not even that good. infact there REALLY boring, and the different ammo types make no difference at all really, i mean they have stolen the sea battles from other ship based games and put there graphics on them but the gameplay is HORRIBLE, i mean they could of atleast added grapples and waves, maybe different ships for diff races?

To be honest come on the ship battles are really bland and crap!! 0 cannon modifactions or hull mods!

My idea is way better then these!

First off instead of MASS spam of ships with crappy battles, they should of made the ships bigger and added more detail and slowed it down and had propper broadside battles instead of the crap we have! Has anyone played the old pirate games that cost £5 for 3in1?? ETW has stolen the same combat style from them but made it WORSE!!! And just juiced up the graphics.

Really bad game, TW shud leave the ship battles to auto and made the game BETTER! By adding ship battles in the game it has sufferd and lost the needed attention to make the MAIN part of the game work, its really CRAP!

This is ridiculous if you dont like it dont play it, "the game is crap" i suggest you point me one strategy game that it is better, if you do, just play it and keep your , crap,crap,crap
And empire is ages ahead from Mtw2, even for its time,
to be honest i never liked really Mtw2. it was kind the same with Rome, but rome was more interesting in land battles

[Weehamish]

This is ridiculous if you dont like it dont play it, "the game is crap" i suggest you point me one strategy game that it is better, if you do, just play it and keep your , crap,crap,crap

Why would i pay for a game and not try and play it?

Why would i buy this game if i didnt think it would be good?

Why should i be quiet if im being ripped off?