If you carry a knife and are an American citizen..

[Osceola]

The same gun grabbing bastards are after edged weapons, particularly knives, too.

http://www.kniferights.org/index.php...tpage&Itemid=1

This is ridiculous, considering I come from a state where it is perfectly legal to carry a bootknife, neck knife, or dagger in public for protection so long as your 18, it just makes me sigh with exasperation.

I prefer having an intimidating fixed bladed knife, it's for the same reason swords were carried thousands of years ago. When I was walking home from a party at 3 in the morning in Central Florida, I preferred to have a fixed bladed tanto style knife on me (thank you cold steel) , it's what I wish I had when me and my friend almost got car jacked in November, it's what I feel most comfortable with against any would be attacker, and I prefer them to guns, to be honest, especially fixed blades of reasonable length. as practicality is a must.

Fixed bladed and folding knives are not in any danger going through walls and killing sleeping babies, their not projectile weapons, and if Cho Seung Hui had one at Virginia Tech, unless that dude was some Jonin ninja of the Koga clan, it would not have been a massacre, it would've been his ass in jail.

Baninng knives is even more idiotic than banning guns, while guns require factories and skilled craftsmanship to make, edged weapons are made out of the most mundane of items every day in prisons. Banning knives will only have a bunch of lowlife scums of the earth who need to have their throats cut for the good of humanity, mugging people with shards of glass wrapped in newspaper.

Support this group and stay aware of knife ownership and carrying rights in the United States. If you have ever carried or do carry a fixed bladed or folding knife for self defense or even utility purposes, post here.

It's a shame nearly every right is under attack in this country.

[lord o kelly]

As a boyscout I am constantly around knives, and own several. They really pose no threat to anyone as long as proper care is taken.

[Carach]

As a boyscout I am constantly around knives, and own several. They really pose no threat to anyone as long as proper care is taken.

except the vast majority of people that usually wonder the streets with knives are carrying them for rather more sinister reasons...

come on guys, what u expecting to need it for? u planning to make an emergency amputation on a crash victim? fashion some rope from some material lying about on the street? what exactly?

i can understand the protection argument if u come from somewhere rather dodgey but there is absolutely no other reason for moaning about this.

[Last Roman]

except the vast majority of people that usually wonder the streets with knives are carrying them for rather more sinister reasons...

nah, most are carrying them for work related reasons.

[Carach]

nah, most are carrying them for work related reasons.

like mugging people, or murdering.

seriously u trying to tell me the vast majority of jobs in the US revolve around the requirement for combat knives and the like?

damn i need to move over there, the 9-5 office jobs sound far more interesting than here.

Thats why it's so pathetic, you lot cannot accept living in reality, it's sad, almost as sad as looking at some skank in a beauty pageant introducing herself to the judges with "I want nothing more then world peace."

It's just pathetic.

uhm we are living in reality right now. having knives on our streets is illegal. so...yea...

[Last Roman]

like mugging people, or murdering.

seriously u trying to tell me the vast majority of jobs in the US revolve around the requirement for combat knives and the like?

damn i need to move over there, the 9-5 office jobs sound far more interesting than here.

no, I'm saying most (not the vast majority) of people who carry knives are for work reasons, at least where I live. And when I say knives, I'm not talking about military issue stuff, but swiss army type stuff.

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

As a boyscout I am constantly around knives, and own several. They really pose no threat to anyone as long as proper care is taken.

If not they are rather dangerous..back when I was a scout I recieved a large cut on my arm because someone was dancing around with a knife..Now I have a scar there...

[Oldgamer]

If not they are rather dangerous..back when I was a scout I recieved a large cut on my arm because someone was dancing around with a knife..Now I have a scar there...

Ah! War wounds. Sources of pride that can shown to anyone for the rest of your life.

@2d ron

Not to mention these nutters with Assault Rifles and , Militias in America.. Do they really think that a Militia of Inbred Idiots is going to stop an army with the intent on murdering every man, women and Child.
I'm sure those Militias will look scary, for about a month. lol

Excuse me, sir, but what was a Kentucky rifle in 1776 but an "assault rifle", with better range and hitting power than the military weapons of the British Army? It occurs to me that this weapon, and others, in the hands of "inbred militias" defeated the most powerful Empire on earth.

I've been all over the world and seen refugees fleeing from all sorts of tyrannies and murders-in-the-mass. They all share one common characteristic. They're unarmed ...

[The spartan]

Um...Boohoo? Really, I could care less. This is just paranoia sinking in. I could go find a similar website saying; "They government is now after our weed-whackers!". Ya...sorry, I am not buying it.

[eddy_purpus]

Um...Boohoo? Really, I could care less. This is just paranoia sinking in. I could go find a similar website saying; "They government is now after our weed-whackers!". Ya...sorry, I am not buying it.

[Osceola]

Were not moaning, were telling idiotic lawmakers, no. Something your people doesn't care enough to do it would seem, we do.

Yes I come from somewhere somewhat "dodgy" alot more so then it used to be,. .. So? I believe a humans self defense is his own responsibility, so does my state.

Right spartan, and if you don't buy that a Hawaiian lawmaker is trying to ban ing pocket knives when it says so plain as day, then your really not the type of person I'm trying to reach anyways.

Seriously.. to all you people who don't give a , why must you post? Chances are people don't give a about the opinions of people who don't give a .

[The spartan]

Were not moaning, were telling idiotic lawmakers, no. Something your people doesn't care enough to do it would seem, we do.

Yes I come from somewhere somewhat "dodgy" alot more so then it used to be,. .. So? I believe a humans self defense is his own responsibility, so does my state.

Right spartan, and if you don't buy that a Hawaiian lawmaker is trying to ban ing pocket knives when it says so plain as day, then your really not the type of person I'm trying to reach anyways.

You honestly want me to believe that "lawmakers" are trying to get rid of knives? No, sorry, I don't believe it. Especially when it is being brought up in the same stereotypical "dere' takin' our guuuunz!" tone. And if it is a Hawaiian law being brought up, and you are not from Hawaii, why do you care? It is just pocket knives for christs sake, in Hawaii! Chances are, it's not going to pass either! This is paranoid propaganda, there are 1000s of articles like this all over the web. You are just finding what you want to find, that the Government is starting to place the iron heel down upon the US citizens to force the communism upon us, but all I see is a waste of time.

[2-D Ron]

You honestly want me to believe that "lawmakers" are trying to get rid of knives? No, sorry, I don't believe it. Especially when it is being brought up in the same stereotypical "dere' takin' our guuuunz!" tone. And if it is a Hawaiian law being brought up, and you are not from Hawaii, why do you care? It is just pocket knives for christs sake, in Hawaii! Chances are, it's not going to pass either! This is paranoid propaganda, there are 1000s of articles like this all over the web. You are just finding what you want to find, that the Government is starting to place the iron heel down upon the US citizens to force the communism upon us, but all I see is a waste of time.

I hate these moaning Gun Carriers with their stupid Hitler/Stalin/Mao Comparisons that Gun Control is a plot to kill us all with their mediocre Historical lessons that our Current Governments are just Commies in drag.
The thought of inbred yockles with guns gives me sleepless nights.

No, there is no law about carrying knives around in public and if their is its regional and based upon blade size and fixed versus non-fixed. Here's a list I found: http://www.donath.org/Rants/StateKnifeLaws/

As it mentions in many of the states and cities and in many cases the cops are as confused as the citizens.

And to answer your second question, unless i am going specifically out to a club or to a place with pointed dress code, I always carry my knife. Granted it is a Leatherman (it has a 3" blade that will slice you before you even realize your cut and from practice I can get it out and open very fast) but I also have a folding buck I will take on occasion. And as I have mentioned, I have used it nearly every day as a tool. Once in Trader Joes the clerk didn't have their utility knife on them to open a produce package they brought out for me, I lent them mine.

Its usually on the rare occasions that I don't carry either of my knives that I find I usually need them.

These Gun advocates don't seem to realise that times are changing, there is more dangerous weapons becoming allot more accessible to people; That guns that were once hard to come by, as manufacturing has improved they can just mass produce guns and knives and some of those knives and guns will end up in the hands of those that shouldn't have them.

Not to mention these nutters with Assault Rifles and , Militias in America.. Do they really think that a Militia of Inbred Idiots is going to stop an army with the intent on murdering every man, women and Child.
I'm sure those Militias will look scary, for about a month. lol

[Carach]

Were not moaning, were telling idiotic lawmakers, no. Something your people doesn't care enough to do it would seem, we do.

well tbh, in most cases here in the UK we cant argue against such lawmaking because its pretty sensible.

Yes I come from somewhere somewhat "dodgy" alot more so then it used to be,. .. So? I believe a humans self defense is his own responsibility, so does my state.

Obviously not anymore..

Seriously.. to all you people who don't give a , why must you post? Chances are people don't give a about the opinions of people who don't give a .

ur posting in a debating section. so i guess its our 'right' to post our views on this subject. or are u against one of ur founding beliefs of free speech?

[Osceola]

"Dere takin our guuuuunz" ? How insulting and immature, of course, no surprise whatsoever coming from the anti-gun lot.

This is why I could not care any less about what your side thinks, your wasting your breath here. The point my Pushing-Persians-into-wells friend, is not about "dere takin our guuuunz" it's about doing something that seems to be incomprehensible to you. Expressing political support against legislation of something you don't agree with. If this was a legalise marijuana thread, (something else I try to stay politically active in0 you wouldn't be saying a single thing similar to what you are now I'm sure. However since your posts seem to indicate that you take the position of being anti-weaponry to such an extent that it could be counted a fetish, you suddenly find this form of political activism as something so offensive to your dear little heart.

Seriously.. what do you expect to accomplish here? Nothing? Then why do you care?

And please stop any attempts at ridicule, as ridicule is somewhat connected to comedy, and neither have their place in here, nor are one of your strong points.

[The spartan]

"Dere takin our guuuuunz" ? How insulting and immature, of course, no surprise whatsoever coming from the anti-gun lot.

This is why I could not care any less about what your side thinks, your wasting your breath here. The point my Pushing-Persians-into-wells friend, is not about "dere takin our guuuunz" it's about doing something that seems to be incomprehensible to you. Expressing political support against legislation of something you don't agree with. If this was a legalise marijuana thread, (something else I try to stay politically active in0 you wouldn't be saying a single thing similar to what you are now I'm sure. However since your posts seem to indicate that you take the position of being anti-weaponry to such an extent that it could be counted a fetish, you suddenly find this form of political activism as something so offensive to your dear little heart.

Seriously.. what do you expect to accomplish here? Nothing? Then why do you care?

And please stop any attempts at ridicule, as ridicule is somewhat connected to comedy, and neither have their place in here, nor are one of your strong points.

First off, I said "dere takin' our guuunz" was a stereotypical tone that your original post took. I never said that was the way you are, or how normal gun-owning citizens are, just that was a stereotype that sounded similar to your first post.

Second, you have no flippin' idea what my position on the matter is. I never even once hinted on any of my opinions towards guns. I am not "anti-gun", I do prefer stricter gun laws if that's what you mean, but I am not "anti-gun". In fact, I own a gun a model 81 .22 caliber Marlin sitting across my lap this very moment.

[Corrupted]

"Dere takin our guuuuunz" ? How insulting and immature, of course, no surprise whatsoever coming from the anti-gun lot.

This is why I could not care any less about what your side thinks, your wasting your breath here. The point my Pushing-Persians-into-wells friend, is not about "dere takin our guuuunz" it's about doing something that seems to be incomprehensible to you. Expressing political support against legislation of something you don't agree with. If this was a legalise marijuana thread, (something else I try to stay politically active in0 you wouldn't be saying a single thing similar to what you are now I'm sure. However since your posts seem to indicate that you take the position of being anti-weaponry to such an extent that it could be counted a fetish, you suddenly find this form of political activism as something so offensive to your dear little heart.

Seriously.. what do you expect to accomplish here? Nothing? Then why do you care?

And please stop any attempts at ridicule, as ridicule is somewhat connected to comedy, and neither have their place in here, nor are one of your strong points.

As a fellow American I have to state that I am ashamed by this post and I think you should think a bit harder on this, I know it might hurt your brain but bear with me. Now guns and knives (though I have no true problem with a knife though I fail to see how you need to tote around a big machete or some such lethal weapon) should be illegal upon the grounds that regardless of whether the owner is a criminal, mentally unstable or just too young there is still always the chance they might lose control and kill or maim somebody, and there is very few cases in which civilians were ever able to properly protect themselves from a mugger/murderer with or without a weapon of any sort. And look at the stats, countries with stricter gun laws have fewer crimes, coincidence? I think not.

[Gelgoog]

should be illegal upon the grounds that regardless of whether the owner is a criminal, mentally unstable or just too young there is still always the chance they might lose control and kill or maim somebody

and you just outlawed motor vehicles on the chance that they might lose control and maim or kill somebody.

and there is very few cases in which civilians were ever able to properly protect themselves from a mugger/murderer with or without a weapon of any sort.

what? 2.5 million americans would beg to difference on that statetment.

And look at the stats, countries with stricter gun laws have fewer crimes, coincidence? I think not.

I have, and they do not say that. Its idiotic to say that because X country have stricter gun laws that they have less crime. Crime is a multi-faceted part of society. One could say we have more crime because we have more laws which make more people criminal. we could say that we have more gun crime, but are equal as far as violent crime goes. we could say that other countries with stricter gun laws have alot fewer people with the ability to protect themselves and hence have a higher degree of victimization and being accosted. We can say alot of things about crime, but what we can't do is narrow crime rate to one specific thing like gun laws and say X european country is better then the US because of their gun laws. That would be a retarded statement to make because its based on jack squat and pure laziness to actually understand the statistics they are looking at.

[PointOfViewGun]

Which part is sad? The part that anyone over 18 could feel insecure to carry a knife around for protection? Or the part where there are so many of them that the state needs to come up with a law to limit them?

[Osceola]

Which part is sad? The part that anyone over 18 could feel insecure to carry a knife around for protection? Or the part where there are so many of them that the state needs to come up with a law to limit them?

That troll had potential, but nice attempt. I troll quite a bit myself too y'know.. I know a good one when I see one.

I suppose a police officer must feel quite insecure in order to carry a truncheon when he goes into bad neighbourhoods too, or a handgun?

Or perhaps you just don't understand people who find themselves walking outside in the dead of night for various reasons? Don't leave your computer very much and feel quite secure in making night time journeys through your house? I can see where someone else could come off as insecure to you then.

I don't carry a knife around the house either. Thats def my turf yo.

First off, I said "dere takin' our guuunz" was a stereotypical tone that your original post took. I never said that was the way you are, or how normal gun-owning citizens are, just that was a stereotype that sounded similar to your first post.

Second, you have no flippin' idea what my position on the matter is. I never even once hinted on any of my opinions towards guns. I am not "anti-gun", I do prefer stricter gun laws if that's what you mean, but I am not "anti-gun". In fact, I own a gun a model 81 .22 caliber Marlin sitting across my lap this very moment.

Right, and I didn't actually read your post , past what irritated the out of me.

If you want to be taken seriously, post seriously. And don't accuse me with tired old stereotypes in the first sentence like you did. It is not laughable to make the assertion that lawmakers in favour of extremely strict gun control also happen to have something against edged weapons too.

In fact it's a very common sense assumption considering Hawaii is an absurdly anti-gun state.