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    What's the effect of friendly fire in the game? Is it similar to MED II or it's causing heavy casualties? I mean, if I charge my infantry against an enemy infantry for close combat and then shoot with the rest of my infantry will I cause as many friendly casualties as enemy?
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    I'd like to know this as well. I had a unit behind a unit on the front line and i couldn't see any friendly fire casualties... made me wonder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aronnov View Post
    I'd like to know this as well. I had a unit behind a unit on the front line and i couldn't see any friendly fire casualties... made me wonder.
    Was the unit behind the first unit on higher ground? As have used this to good effect in RTI firing over the front units heads...

    Now have noticed if I have a unit in melee and a unit firing into the melee your units are effected badly by friendly fire.
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    I have accidentally shot up some of my own units, but it does not seem to be too bad. I am only playing on normal so that might have an effect on the amount of FF taken.

    I have definitely caused some massive FF with cannons, blew apart a cavalry unit i sent to chase down some fleeing enemy infantry.

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    It can be deadly, if you're not careful.
    I haven't noticed it for muskets, but artillery certainly has a way of ruining things for you...

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    Yeah, my artillery DECIMATED my general and cavalry one time when it was on fire-at-will and I wasn't paying attention...as for infrantry fire, I don't know, I haven't noticed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jps42 View Post
    Yeah, my artillery DECIMATED my general and cavalry one time when it was on fire-at-will and I wasn't paying attention...as for infrantry fire, I don't know, I haven't noticed.
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    Hmm... So it seems to be like Med II. Artillery could do that in MED II too.
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    I had a fight with american indians last night where my calv had charged a group of medicine men and was fully engaged, and a regiment of line infantry unleashed a barrage against the indians, THROUGH my calv. So it looks like musket FF is turned off.


    Fun game, but this needs a total realism patch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkham View Post
    I had a fight with american indians last night where my calv had charged a group of medicine men and was fully engaged, and a regiment of line infantry unleashed a barrage against the indians, THROUGH my calv. So it looks like musket FF is turned off.


    Fun game, but this needs a total realism patch.
    Maybe they just all missed or you got lucky.. cuz I've found the FF can ruin your day!

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    Canister shot is pretty bad for friendly fire. Playing as Russians I had 3 cannon units set up on the hill, with line infantry positioned lower to protect the cannons. When the enemy got fairly close to my line, canisters managed to kill about 150 enemy soldiers and around the same for my soldiers. Total casualty count was 300, with enemy kills accounting for 156 casualties.

    IMHO, friendly fire is overdone - using canister is more dangerous to your own army than the enemy. Setting up cannons without frontal protection is silly as well - I usually use two defensive lines 3-rank deep protecting the cannon positions and those men take horrific casualties from the cannons they are protecting. Cannon crews must be blind...
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    Hmm... So it seems to be like Med II. Artillery could do that in MED II too.
    The friendly canister shot fire is worse than any arty in med 2
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    I'm not exactly sure if it was friendly fire or not, because I had some hectic fur-balling going on in the general vicinity, but when it was over, I had half a company of my own dead infantry piled up near the front of one of my cannons that happened to be firing canister.

    Which reminds me...

    Watch out for cannons on fire at will. They can pick some awful inconvenient targets when you're not paying attention.

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    Yeah, one time my cannon decided it wanted to ignore a charging group of lancers and fire its load of canister shot at 1 remaining, routing lancer that was being beaten up by some of my own calvery. Wiped out about half of my guys.

    I had those men shot after the battle.

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    Goodness, I need to test the musket FF. I know it was active in the demo, and I have been ever so careful with my line infantry so far... actually, I could have sworn I caused friendly casualties with it. Time to play.

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    i definitely seen infantry take a few friendly fire shots to the back of the head before.

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    An hour ago I played a small quick battle.

    Some light infantry riflemen were behind my regular line-inf. The light inf. - because of its longer range - opened fire first, through the friendly line of soldiers in front of them. It was quite deadly.

    It's not a good idea to set a unit close behind another to fire-at-will.

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    Artillery firing canister shot into the back of one of my line regiments was rather brutal took over 30 casualties.

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    George Washington is no longer the future first president of the United States.

    You know why? I decided to leave him behind my infantry safe and sound, forward and left of my artillery. Im looking at my infantry only to have a message pop up of a "Heroic Death". Turns out my artillery swiveled to fire on some flanking french and took him out in the process...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingan View Post
    George Washington is no longer the future first president of the United States.

    You know why? I decided to leave him behind my infantry safe and sound, forward and left of my artillery. Im looking at my infantry only to have a message pop up of a "Heroic Death". Turns out my artillery swiveled to fire on some flanking french and took him out in the process...
    Artillery kills my men more than it does the enemy. I think artillery must be manned by Mogul assassins in disguise.

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