Prussia - Tips/Strategies

[awisler]

First, may I recommend a tips/strategies subforum here like M2TW?

Until then, I figured I would make a thread about Prussia and any tips people could contribute.

My basic campaign map strategy was to unify germany, that is capture saxony, bavaria, stuttgart, rhineland, and hannover.

First I captured saxony, and in order to appease Poland, its ally, I traded konigsberg for a ceasefire and trade rights. That may sound crazy, but I get to focus my whole army on Germany, and do not have to worry about a split empire. Next, Bavaria declared war on me, and its allies did not follow it in, so after 3 turns I was able to conquer that.

After this, things get a bit trickier. I tried to do this as quick as possible to prevent other factions from taking these regions, so I threw everything I had at Hannover and won it after a few bloody battles. I nearly went into debt afterward retraining and building up another army.

The rhineland and stuttgart are allied, and they have some powerful allies themselves like Great Britain. First I gave britain some money and then gained an alliance, that way when I attacked rhineland it didnt side with either of us. It took a while, as both factions have some sizable armies, but it is a very winnable war.

This is as far as I have gotten on my H/H campaign, but I have found this was a successful strategy. I have now been peaceful with everyone for a few years, and was able to focus on growth. I havent had any revolutions yet, and feel that i am doing pretty well. I am about to attack Sweden/Denmark and gain dominance in the Baltic.

One other thing I found, once germany is unified and you are not at war, reduce your army size and then exempt hannover from taxes until the next village grows. You should still be able to profit, and the next village that will appear is a port, which provides some important trade, and without taxes it took 8 turns rather than 30 to appear. I recommend making berlin and hannover trade ports, and then taking copenhagen will give you a drydock for naval production.

Feel free to post any tips for Prussia

[stupiddk]

I need some help, I started a N/N campaign with Prussia
Haven't had to fight one battle till now.

I have a revolution and I clicked to join the rebels

I thought it would give me a decent army to fight the battle against the royalists, I got screwed. I was given 896 troops to battle the giant 2000 man royal army.

I got a cannon and some other weak infantry. I lost the battle pretty quickly and lost the campaign, I don't feel like going all the way back to turn 31, was at 43 and can't seem to turn back before the revolution. Is there a strategy to winning a revolution as the rebels?

[Gazz]

I need some help, I started a N/N campaign with Prussia
Haven't had to fight one battle till now.

I have a revolution and I clicked to join the rebels

I thought it would give me a decent army to fight the battle against the royalists, I got screwed. I was given 896 troops to battle the giant 2000 man royal army.

I got a cannon and some other weak infantry. I lost the battle pretty quickly and lost the campaign, I don't feel like going all the way back to turn 31, was at 43 and can't seem to turn back before the revolution. Is there a strategy to winning a revolution as the rebels?

Empty the capital of troops first.

[stupiddk]

Creative Assembly really dropped the ball, how am I supposed to win a battle of 896 conscripts versus veteran line infantry, impossible. Why wouldn't they give me an equal army, heck, you can't even recruit as a rebel, what you get is what you get.

[italian.madness]

Creative Assembly really dropped the ball, how am I supposed to win a battle of 896 conscripts versus veteran line infantry, impossible. Why wouldn't they give me an equal army, heck, you can't even recruit as a rebel, what you get is what you get.

CONCERNING REVOLUTION
You are absolutely right.
That's why I pushed the revolution but before dfoing that I moved the prussian troops from Berlin: result is that you will only have to fight a small amount of local weak troops in our capital city and thats' it.

[Didz]

Creative Assembly really dropped the ball, how am I supposed to win a battle of 896 conscripts versus veteran line infantry, impossible. Why wouldn't they give me an equal army, heck, you can't even recruit as a rebel, what you get is what you get.

You started a revolution against one of the most autocratic and militaristic monarchs in the game, with one of the most powerful armies in the game, and reckon the game is broken because you didn't win

[skap187]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=280656

[Hans Friedman]

Your really saying CA dropped the ball because you lost a battle?

[stupiddk]

Heck yeah, CA

No i am kidding, but damn, it was unexpected and now i feel i wasted a lot of my time. So, I guess I need to play a different faction like Britain until I get used to the game. Great game, but it is in need of some patches for sure.

[ACMilan88]

Heck yeah, CA

No i am kidding, but damn, it was unexpected and now i feel i wasted a lot of my time. So, I guess I need to play a different faction like Britain until I get used to the game. Great game, but it is in need of some patches for sure.

Lol i had this experience a while ago with Austria. I simply saved the game before the revolution begain and once i discovered that the my rebel army was to poor/small i loaded a up the game again and got some better odds

[awisler]

Hmm, it may be possible that you only had a small amount of clamour for reform, and therefore get a small army? I have not experienced a revolution yet, but perhaps it is best to continually side with the royalists as they are likely to have the larger army. But after many attempts see if the rebel army begins to grow, and then choose them? Sorry, no experience on the topic this is purely speculation.

[Krows]

What I did with my Prussian campaign was to build up my two armies fairly quickly, I put one right next to west Prussia(the Polish coastal territory) and sent my other army up to Courland.

I attacked Courland since they are Poland's protectorate and therefore Poland would declare war on me, meaning I get to attack them and take thier territories without having thier allies declare war on me, after all, I'm not the aggressor here.

I guess in theory Saxony would be just as good and difficult to take as Courland, just don't under estimate the massive amounts of militia these nations have, you'll definately need a good amount of line infantry to hold the ranks.

In anycase, you should be building Indiamans and grabbing up any trade spot you can get your hands on, they get picked up really fast, even by the Pirates. The more Indiaman you build and send to different theatres, the better chance you have of claiming a spot and if you only ever find one free spot, you can always send all your ships there anyways.

And, if you are feeling fruity, stick an army in one of the trade ships you've built and send it to America and take Georgia, the natives are easy enough to wipe out and this gives you a small foothold in America.

You could do the same in India, just make sure you attack the Mughals(Green) and you should be ok.

What ever ya do, don't be scared of Poland, they might have strong allies, in Russia, but Russia has bigger problems to worry about than Poland's enemies, after all they are staring south towards the ottomans and the ottomans are staring right back.

[MightyHealthy]

What I did with my Prussian campaign was to build up my two armies fairly quickly, I put one right next to west Prussia(the Polish coastal territory) and sent my other army up to Courland.

I attacked Courland since they are Poland's protectorate and therefore Poland would declare war on me, meaning I get to attack them and take thier territories without having thier allies declare war on me, after all, I'm not the aggressor here.

I guess in theory Saxony would be just as good and difficult to take as Courland, just don't under estimate the massive amounts of militia these nations have, you'll definately need a good amount of line infantry to hold the ranks.

Similer to what i did, but i went after Saxony first. I spent most of the first 20 turns plugging into the Military tech. Then Austria those good people declared war on Poland and started grinding their armies away. I immediantly whent after Saxony (i had 2 half stacks, one in Berlin other in East Prussia), due to Polish declartion of war i assaulted West Prussia.

Destroyed Saxony and gained the province (which is richer than Courland btw) and also seized WPrussia. Due to Poland now being at war with GB, Austria and assorted others they took my peace Treaty.

Again built up tech and better units. Courland declared war. took them, and then Poland declared war, took them.

And so they story goes, always staying a military tech ahead of the rest of the pack.

Started throwing gifts at Russia to keep them off me. that worked (give them state gifts, goes from unfriendly to very friendly )
Then went after Austria. Won the campaign after dragging in all of Austria's remaining allies.

Prussia is militaryily awsome to play

on H/H btw. reason for half stacks at the start.

[Krows]

Prussia is militaryily awsome to play

It sure is and, you have so many minor nations around you that you can pick on, all of which will lead you to war with Poland more than likely, but that is always part of the plan eh.

[Sharpe]

My Campaign as Prussia and tips.

I play aggresivley, and sometimes this is my downfall. I pride my self on having the most disciplined and vaunted armies, and with this in mind I headed straight to unify Prussia by capturing West Prussia, Poland-Lithuania owned land.

The Polish Garrison there was about 8 units of line infantry, some demi-cannons and citizenry. My army was a heavly drilled mass of line infantry, with supporting regiments of horse. The battle was simple, I shot and advanced until the main force was destroyed and then moved in to exterminate those who garrisoned buildings. A victory well deserved I thought.

The repercussions of this seige were horrendous. Poland-Lithuania raided every free village in east-Prussia and Austria, Courland and Saxony declared war. Sea to the north, enemies everywhere else. I literally had to fight my way out, but with so many enemies I needed a lot of highly trained armies, this flung me into bankrupcy. I did manage to take Poland-Lituania and destroy them. Or so I thought, within 5 turns there was a full scale insurrection on my hands! The faction had re-emerged and brought huge armies with it. Since then my armies have been locked in a stalemate war, with no side gaining a clear advantage and my money draining fast.

My tips.

- Focus and Military and Farming Tech.
- Forget Cannons for now, Line Infantry supported by Grenadiers and Horsemen are good.
- Rank-Fire is essential for a world beating army.
- Dont invade Poland-Lituania. Destroy Isolated minor factions.

[Mhantra]

My Campaign as Prussia and tips.

I play aggresivley, and sometimes this is my downfall. I pride my self on having the most disciplined and vaunted armies, and with this in mind I headed straight to unify Prussia by capturing West Prussia, Poland-Lithuania owned land.

The Polish Garrison there was about 8 units of line infantry, some demi-cannons and citizenry. My army was a heavly drilled mass of line infantry, with supporting regiments of horse. The battle was simple, I shot and advanced until the main force was destroyed and then moved in to exterminate those who garrisoned buildings. A victory well deserved I thought.

The repercussions of this seige were horrendous. Poland-Lithuania raided every free village in east-Prussia and Austria, Courland and Saxony declared war. Sea to the north, enemies everywhere else. I literally had to fight my way out, but with so many enemies I needed a lot of highly trained armies, this flung me into bankrupcy. I did manage to take Poland-Lituania and destroy them. Or so I thought, within 5 turns there was a full scale insurrection on my hands! The faction had re-emerged and brought huge armies with it. Since then my armies have been locked in a stalemate war, with no side gaining a clear advantage and my money draining fast.

My tips.

- Focus and Military and Farming Tech.
- Forget Cannons for now, Line Infantry supported by Grenadiers and Horsemen are good.
- Rank-Fire is essential for a world beating army.
- Dont invade Poland-Lituania. Destroy Isolated minor factions.

Haha, I did this exact thing as well, attacking Poland out of the gates. Literally, first turn. In the second turn I took Saxony. After this, I turtled up and build up my defense and economy. I also pursued the Ottomans as an ally.

The war between Poland and I (Prussia) was absolutely brutal, but I actually won out. At one point, 954 of my men defended against, and beat out 2130 of theirs. That was for East Prussia. Had I lost that, I was dead.

I thought that Poland's allies would destroy me, particularly Russia. Russia declared war on me, and I expected a mass slaughter, but they never arrived. Later, once I advanced that far, I noticed the Ottomans had driven a wedge up through their lands and divided them.

In short, I did invade Poland and get away with it, though I wouldn't suggest it as the best of strategies. But in the end...that rocked!

[Baron Thunder-ten-tronckh]

Although I really dislike Poland for having West Prussia, I am 27 years or so into the game and Poland are steadfast allies with me. I have attempted to keep good relations with most factions excepting Sweden, Austria and the United Provinces.

Early on I had a tiff with Sweden, as did most factions of the area, and I claimed Ingrid with a nice army. I quickly traded it for a peace treaty and some advancements in technology.
Another war with Courland, which, for some reason, did not make me war with Poland, resulted in them being pwned and giving that region to Poland for some technology. I have no interest in these provinces, and so I gave them away to get advanced technologically.

Later on, I destroyed Westphalia and my former protectorate of Hannover, in some very, very nice battles. Rhineland offers an interesting scenario. I have kept on to it, but Spain, France and United Provinces all wanted it, offering provinces for it. France offered some american provinces and at one point Spain offered Lombardy and Sardinica. I almost agreed, but it would have fractured my empire more so.

Since then, Bavaria declared war and so I conquered them, and now I will soon be poised for an Austrian/Wuttemburgian invasion.

My strategy:
I consolidated my position at the beginning, making close to 30k with high as possible taxes, sometimes lowering for growth etc. I put gentlemen in my colleges and aimed primarily at Military to get the Fire by Rank technology. Navy was a minor concern as I still don't know how to win battles against anything more than sloops

I probably could have earnt more money with trading, but for a first campaign I'm doing pretty well.

[Hostile]

Ok Ive only played 8 turns and im already the most prestigefull in europe (my first game).
This is how I did.
I United starting western and eastern prussia by attacking poland and taking "West prussia" that poland has. This made me an enemy to austria, saxony, russia and courland but that isnt a problem.

I started researching farming and philosphy as im not really an aggresive player and know that knowledge is power,and the pen is mightier than the sword.

Secondly I pointed my gun aggainst saxony, took berlin with my big united army. While this was I was invaded by courland by thanks to the fort I have to their borde they were stopped and exterminated.
I took berlin from saxony and another town from austria.
By know my economy was realy bad thanks to that big army, so I used diplmacy.

Austria really wanted its city back, so for some money and a peace agrement they got it back. this lead to that the other factions, Poland, Russia went peacefull aswell.

So now I have expanded my nation by 130%, mad emy prestige hit the roof, gained alot of experienced soldiers in only 4 turns. I also had a good exonomy thanks for that money from austria.

Now im going to keep teching, build a trading fleet and start coloninizing.

[Sharpe]

I swear everyone hated my Prussia. It must be my army. The finest body of men to walk the planet!

[dmar]

I'm suprised nobody seems to have gone the historic way and faced Austria and taken Silesia.