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    Default China launches English-language newspaper in US

    Will this newspaper ever report on Chinas human rights abuses (or anything that might look bad on China)?

    Place your bets here.

    Also is it me, or does it seem to be a little inconsistent that China is allowed to publish newspaper in the western world but not allowing anyone else to do the same in China?

    http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_342361.html

    BEIJING - CHINAS global media expansion picked up pace this week with the nations top English-language newspaper launching in the United States, company officials said.

    The start of the US edition of the state-run China Daily newspaper on Monday comes as the nations communist authorities are spending millions of dollars to extend their media reach around the world.

    The US edition is focused on meeting ever-increasing demand for information on doing business with China, the papers deputy editor-in-chief, Qu Yingpu, said in a statement on the papers website.

    The paper also said its aim was to become the primary source of information on China.

    As many media organisations are cutting budgets amid the rise of the Internet as a news source and the global economic crisis, Chinas cashed-up newspapers and TV stations have been looking to expand.

    After setting up French and Spanish language channels ahead of the 2008 Beijing Olympics, China Central Television (CCTV) is intending to start new ones in Russian and Arabic this year.

    The Global Times, run by Communist Party mouthpiece the Peoples Daily, is also planning an English version soon to run alongside the China Daily.

    And the official Xinhua news agency plans to open more bureaus around the world as it expands global news gathering efforts.

    Hong Kongs South China Morning Post newspaper reported last month that the Chinese government had earmarked 45 billion yuan (S$10.08 billion) for the media expansion.

    Such funding could not be independently confirmed. -- AFP
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    what's the point of this thread?
    how is this any different to any media conglomerate opening a newspaper anywhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    whats the point of this thread?
    This is news, this is current events, and this may have political ramifications.

    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    how is this any different to any media conglomerate opening a newspaper anywhere?
    This is a state-run newspaper (owned and approved by the Chinese government) and therefore, a reasonable person would question its journalistic integrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Sky Magician View Post
    This is news, this is current events, and this may have political ramifications.



    This is a state-run newspaper (owned and approved by the Chinese government) and therefore, a reasonable person would question its journalistic integrity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    what's the point of this thread?
    how is this any different to any media conglomerate opening a newspaper anywhere?
    It's different because it isn't a media conglomerate, it's the Chinese government. Having said that, I don't see a problem with it. Move over Fox, there is a new contender for the media bias throne!

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    Default Re: China launches English-language newspaper in US

    so?
    the heads of News Corp and CNN have political affiliations
    same with any other major media conglomerate,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    so?
    the heads of News Corp and CNN have political affiliations
    same with any other major media conglomerate,
    Political Mudpit Use this forum to discuss current events and specific individuals in politics today.
    Now, can you stop going off topic and discuss the subject of the thread in question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    so?
    the heads of News Corp and CNN have political affiliations
    same with any other major media conglomerate,
    Um there is a huge difference between a paper ultimately answering to the goverment and the media mogul or coorperation that owns it knowing people in power....one is ultimately looking at profit, profit, profit and the other is to spread a political viewpoint.

    And its news because I think when a state run news organization's goal is to become the source of information on China thru out the world that its rather noteworthy to take notice.

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    hehe, I expect to have full chinglish grammar here, or I'll be disappointed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erwin Rommel View Post
    hehe, I expect to have full chinglish grammar here, or I'll be disappointed
    Good one!
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    Default Re: China launches English-language newspaper in US

    Now, can you stop going off topic and discuss the subject of the thread in question?
    Now that's a new tactic. Ultimately lame, though. If US does respect the FoS clause then any corporation would be free to sell and distribute their media in US soil. Hypocrisy is the ultimate tool of the great powers.

    The subject of the thread in question:
    China is being hypocrite for trying to publish papers in US while allowing no one else to do so in her own territories.

    Addendum:
    The paper is also state owned.

    Exarch's Counter:
    Media moguls in the US also have political connections.

    Counter:
    Stop going Off Topic.

    My conclusion:
    Dang this has to be one of the worst discussions ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Sky Magician View Post
    Will this newspaper ever report on Chinas human rights abuses (or anything that might look bad on China)?

    Place your bets here.

    Also is it me, or does it seem to be a little inconsistent that China is allowed to publish newspaper in the western world but not allowing anyone else to do the same in China?

    http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_342361.html
    Well we can't have any Chinese students overseas actually finding out too much, can we?

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    Well we can't have any Chinese students overseas actually finding out too much, can we
    I am not laughing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sephodwyrm View Post
    I am not laughing.
    Stop being a party pooper.

    On topic: There is a big difference betwin a news organisation with ties to the government and a news organisation controlled by the government.
    Thats really aperant when comparing say, Russian news to western news (in my case Israeli and BBC). One shows both sides of each coin, and while being generally favorable of one side or the other still manages to remain relatively neutrall. While the other is just there to spread propoganda with a little bit of news, thats the case with China I asume.

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    are you saying CNN and Faux News and the BCC are immune to political bias?

    because i can tell you there's a truckload of evidence showing each and everyone of those so called 'impartial' news stations to be as political as CCTV

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    are you saying CNN and Faux News and the BCC are immune to political bias?

    because i can tell you there's a truckload of evidence showing each and everyone of those so called 'impartial' news stations to be as political as CCTV
    Re-read my post. They are not imune, but they atleast try to be somewhat nutral.
    You still cant compare their bias to anything that comes out of China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentin the II View Post
    Re-read my post. They are not imune, but they atleast try to be somewhat nutral.
    You still cant compare their bias to anything that comes out of China.
    no actually what comes out of most western countries is much more sinister to tell you the truth;

    in China, most ppl already know to take what comes out of CCTV with a grain of salt, can you say the same for your standard media outlet?
    i covered this in my 'how do you know if you're brainwashed' thread; it's more the subtle propgandist you should be aware of; the one that already has the viewer (you) assuming the party line preconception that "so and so is evil etcetc etc"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    are you saying CNN and Faux News and the BCC are immune to political bias?
    Bias or not they are bias of their own free will to make money they arent biased because a goverment controls them. Ultimately Fox and CNN exist to make money not sell outright political agendas of a state. Hell I bet the Brits WISHED they had control over the BBC given its funding. Now if the chinese paper turned out like BBC with hands off approach I doubt you'd find too much reasonable complaint but the Chinese arent exactly a hands off type of goverment when it comes to political issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    Bias or not they are bias of their own free will to make money they arent biased because a goverment controls them. Ultimately Fox and CNN exist to make money not sell outright political agendas of a state. Hell I bet the Brits WISHED they had control over the BBC given its funding. Now if the chinese paper turned out like BBC with hands off approach I doubt you'd find too much reasonable complaint but the Chinese arent exactly a hands off type of goverment when it comes to political issues.
    we cant expect every country to have the same types of governments we do, worse it seems hypocritical to do business with a country if you object to its government

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    we cant expect every country to have the same types of governments we do, worse it seems hypocritical to do business with a country if you object to its government
    Hypocritical like when a country keeps a tight control over media in their country but then launch a news outlet in countries that have free press? No we cant expect every country to have same type of government but we can expect governments to respect and allow basic rights all people are entitled to....and to keep its propaganda within its own borders.

    And if the west decided you were right and didnt want to be hypocritical anymore China's economy would collapse though Mexico and India would probably see alot more economy growth for that cheap labor pool

    Don't like it? Don't read it. What's the problem?

    It's a BUSINESS paper. Obviously there's enough demand for it so it must fill some kind of niche.
    Ok we wont but we will discuss it thank you very much Besides dont like it dont read/watch it has done little to stop the whining about Fox news on the mudpit so why should be any different here.

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