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    Cracking rant in the Guardian from Charlie Brooker, who so far has always struck me as a self-obsessed pillock, but seems right on the money with this.

    Anybody else find themselves nodding in agreement with him?

    Think anything will come of it?

    I don't.


    Any abusive relationship tends to end with a long, slow phase of mounting disappointment followed by a sudden, irreversible snapping point. The descent to rock bottom may take years but when you get there, the force of impact still shocks, and it's precisely this shock that gives you the strength to walk away. Take smoking, for instance. You can light up for years, hating yourself and the habit a little bit more with each accumulated puff, yet remain hopelessly locked in nicotine's pointless embrace, until one day you find yourself scrabbling through the kitchen bin, picking potato peelings off a dog end because it's 11pm and the shops are closed and GOD YOU NEED A FAG . . . when you catch sight of your sorry junkie-arsed reflection in the shiny bin lid and undergo an epiphany of self-disgust, vowing to quit there and then.

    I bring this up because I suspect that across the country, people are undergoing similar epiphanies every day. Not about cigarettes, but politicians. My personal snapping point was reached last week, at the precise moment Jack Straw announced the government was vetoing the Information Tribunal's order for the release of cabinet minutes relating to that whole invasion-of-Iraq thing. Come on, you remember Iraq: that little foreign policy blip millions of us protested against to absolutely zero avail, because Straw and his pals figured they knew best, even though it turned out they didn't and - oops! - hundreds of thousands of lives were lost as a result. Remember the footage of that screaming little boy with his limbs blown off? Maybe not. Maybe you felt a shiver of guilt when you saw that; guilt that you hadn't personally done enough to prevent it; should've shouted louder, marched further. Or maybe it stunned you into numbness. Because what was the point in protesting any more? These people do what they want.

    They do what they want, these people, and you and I are cut out of the conversation. I'm sure they're dimly aware we still exist. They must spot us occasionally, through the window, jumping up and down in the cold with our funny placards . . . although come to think of it, they can't even see us through the window, since they banned peaceful protest within a mile of Parliament.

    Instead they pick us up on a monitor, courtesy of one of the 15bn CCTV cameras that scrutinise our every move in the name of security. On the screen you're nothing but a tiny monochrome blob; two-dimensional and faceless. And that's just how they like it.

    Straw and co blocked the release of the minutes, claiming that to actually let us know what was going on would set a dangerous precedent that would harm good government. Ministers wouldn't speak frankly at cabinet meetings if they felt their discussions would be subjected to the sort of scrutiny that, say, our every waking move is. In other words, they'd be more worried about the press coverage they'd get than the strength of their arguments.

    Well, boo hoo. Surely craven pussies like that shouldn't be governing anyway?

    Having pissed in the public's face, Straw went on to shake the final drips down its nose, writing a defence of the government's civil liberties record in this paper in which he claimed "talk of Britain sliding into a police state is daft scaremongering, but even were it true there is a mechanism to prevent it - democratic elections . . .

    People have the power to vote out administrations which they believe are heavy-handed." Thanks, Jacksy - can I call you Jacksy? - but who the hell are we supposed to vote in? Despite a bit of grumbling, the Tories supported the veto. Because they wouldn't want cabinet minutes published either.

    It's all over. The politicians have finally shut us out of their game for good and we have nowhere left to turn. We're not part of their world any more. We don't even speak the same language. We're the ants in their garden. The bacteria in their stools. They have nothing but contempt for us. They snivel and lie and duck questions on torture - on torture, for Christ's sake - while demanding we respect their authority. They monitor our every belch and fart, and insist it's all for our own good.

    Straw wrote, "If people were angels there would be no need for government . . . But sadly people are not all angels." That rather makes it sound as though he believes politicians aren't mere people. Maybe they're the gods of Olympus. Maybe that's why they're in charge.

    Thing is, they could get away with this while times were good, while people were comfortable enough to ignore what was happening; when people were focusing on plasma TVs and iPods and celebrity gossip instead of what the politicians were doing - not because they're stupid, but because they know a closed shop when they see one. But now it looks as if those times are at an end, and more and more of us are pulling the dreampipes from the back of our skulls, undergoing a negative epiphany; blinking into the cold light of day.

    Consequently the police are preparing for a "summer of rage". To the powers that be, that probably just means more tiny monochrome blobs jumping up and down on the long-distance monitor for their amusement. Should it turn out to be more visceral than that, they'll have no one to blame but themselves.

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    Absloutely spot on.

    Consequently the police are preparing for a "summer of rage"


    they have been 'preparing' for some time.
    they have so many laws on the books now, just for something like that (dont forget protesting near parliment was banned to "stop terrorists")
    And it wont just be one summer, this is long term, those in power believe they can crush the people this summer.
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    I reckon 'those in power' are in for a shock. The Army has no love for the current administration, and the MOD is adamant that the military will never become involved with civilian law enforcement. I don't think there's so much support amongst the rank and file of the Police either- and they'll be the ones manning the picket lines no matter how many senior Plods are in Labour's pocket.

    If the really hits the fan this summer, I wonder just how much support the Government thinks it can count on.

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    Read this this morning.

    We now realize that the government can watch every aspect of our lives, yet they are beyond scrutiny. Once the recession forces people to cancel their cable TV subscriptions, I guess they will have more time on their hands to contemplate what has happened over the last decade.
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    heres some more on this for anyone whos interested.

    http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...-on-bank-riots

    TOP secret contingency plans have been drawn up to counter the threat posed by a “summer of discontent” in Britain.

    The “double-whammy” of the worst economic crisis in living memory and a motley crew of political extremists determined to stir up civil disorder has led to the extraordinary step of the Army being put on standby.

    ..

    The chilling prospect of soldiers being drafted on to the streets has not been discounted, although it is regarded as a last resort.

    What worries emergency planners most is that the middle classes, now struggling to cope with unemployment and repossessions, may take to the streets with the disenfranchised.

    ..

    This week Britain’s most senior police officer warned that the summer could bring a wave of protests orchestrated by extremists in which ordinary people, fired by their own anger and fear at the economic downturn – became “foot soldiers”.

    Superintendent David Hartshorn, who heads the Met’s public order branch, identified the G20 as the possible start of a “summer of rage”.
    oh...now why might we have a problem with the G20 coming to town..i wonder.

    Over the next few years we will probably become quite acustomed to seeing millitarized police (and even yes, the millitary) gaurding these "important people" who are leading gordon browns "new global order". and of course, on the streets protecting politicains ears from any possible dangers such as people angrily protesting.

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    Brilliant, Ill start making Molatovs.
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    Britain has had this coming for a while. It's an ugly awakening for the people.

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    Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scheuch13 View Post
    Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
    We didn't have a choice, and america isn't that much better, PATRIOT acts anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Modern Life is Rubbish View Post
    We didn't have a choice
    you always have a choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scheuch13 View Post
    you always have a choice.
    Why did you not immediatly rebel against the US government when PATRIOT I was passed? or even PATRIOT II. Don't be so foolish to suggest that I, or even a large number of people could physically overthrow the British Government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Modern Life is Rubbish View Post
    Why did you not immediatly rebel against the US government when PATRIOT I was passed? or even PATRIOT II. Don't be so foolish to suggest that I, or even a large number of people could physically overthrow the British Government.
    patriot act...patriot act!!! is that all you brits can do is squawk that back. do you even know what the patriot act includes? It might be lame, but its not nearly as bad as everyone portrays it to be...I still dont like it though. oh and england is completely 'd over, it would take a revolution to fix your sorry state of affairs. you've already slid down the slippery slope and broke your pelvis, now you have to decide where to go from there.
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    Charlie Brooker may be a , but that doesn't prohibit him being right. I think 'summer of rage' might be an overstatement, unless of course the government hasn't told us quite how focked the economy is (possible, I must admit).
    I think a 'summer of rage' might actually be a good thing for Britain in the long term, assuming we're not a police state by the summer. If we are, the protests might meet a few problems.


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    I read that column every week, and he always seems to be going off on some rant about revolutions or arse-wiping or something similar. This isn't a serious article, his journalistic style isn't like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flogger View Post
    I read that column every week, and he always seems to be going off on some rant about revolutions or arse-wiping or something similar. This isn't a serious article, his journalistic style isn't like that.
    Serious or not, he's got a point.


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    Usual cack from the kind of person in perpetual denial of both their responsibility and the c'est la vie of life.

    Thing is, they could get away with this while times were good, while people were comfortable enough to ignore what was happening


    And why was that?

    It amuses me to watch scum complain about life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Event Horizon View Post


    And why was that?

    It amuses me to watch scum complain about life.
    Because people are distracted with shiny objects and big houses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Alcotroll View Post
    Cracking rant in the Guardian from Charlie Brooker, who so far has always struck me as a self-obsessed pillock, but seems right on the money with this.

    Anybody else find themselves nodding in agreement with him?

    Think anything will come of it?

    I don't.
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    Crime will definitely go up, especially if the weather is hot. Rioting isn’t really the English way so I doubt that will happen.

    In any case mobs aren’t well known for supporting esoteric philosophical principles. Too many long words to fit on placards.

    The current state of authoritarianism is a direct result of politics. Tony Blair made it one of his aims to always go further than the Tories on law and order to court the votes of daily mail readers and their ilk. Unfortunately various terrorist outrages pushed the received norm further and further towards authoritarianism. For some reason Labour continued with the same goal of always going further than the Tories would have. Possibly because they couldn’t think of anything better to do. Politicians aren’t allowed to change their minds and admit they were wrong so we’re stuck with the status quo for the time being.

    Now the tables have turned. People in general believe things have gone too far. Now there is political gain in moving towards greater individual rights and freedoms. Cameron is positioning the Tories as ‘nice’ (and less authoritarian).

    When Gordon Brown finally gets kicked out in a couple of years the Tories will fix everything. Just in time for the next terrorist atrocity at the 2012 Olympics to upset the apple cart all over again.

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    Tories will fix everything? I wish I shared your optimism.

    Charlie Brooker may be a self-obsessed twit, and a pillock and whatever else, but I wouldn't be suprised if there was considerable unrest soon.
    Probably not rioting and looting though. I don't think the British could revolt if we tried.


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