Official TWC Bugs, Issues & Errata List for RTW

**tai4ji2x** · May 15, 2005, 02:32 AM

whenever you upgrade a governor's residence, on the turn of completion, the FOW surrounding the city will go black, as if you have no units, watchtowers, spies whatver. all units within this new blackened area cannot be selected on the campaign map unless you toggle FOW off via the RomeShell console, although you can click on the city and select the unit cards individually. moving a unit into the blackened area will momentarily restore vision, but will revert back to the bugged state once the unit moves out of the field-of-view. moving a new unit into the city itself will not restore vision either, as it become a part of the stack within the city, which is somehow now marked as "visionless". things will stay this way in all consecutive turns unless the game is reloaded. i think there is a chance it will be restored once you upgrade the residence again, though i haven't bothered to test this.

**Sebastiaan** · June 27, 2005, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by tai4ji2x

whenever you upgrade a governor's residence, on the turn of completion, the FOW surrounding the city will go black, as if you have no units, watchtowers, spies whatver. all units within this new blackened area cannot be selected on the campaign map unless you toggle FOW off via the RomeShell console, although you can click on the city and select the unit cards individually. moving a unit into the blackened area will momentarily restore vision, but will revert back to the bugged state once the unit moves out of the field-of-view. moving a new unit into the city itself will not restore vision either, as it become a part of the stack within the city, which is somehow now marked as "visionless". things will stay this way in all consecutive turns unless the game is reloaded. i think there is a chance it will be restored once you upgrade the residence again, though i haven't bothered to test this.

I can confirm this bug appearing in my first RTW vanila campaign game. after a reload, the problem was solved

**Borsook** · May 15, 2005, 03:25 AM

Originally posted by tai4ji2x@May 15 2005, 01:32 AM
whenever you upgrade a governor's residence, on the turn of completion, the FOW surrounding the city will go black, as if you have no units, watchtowers, spies whatver. all units within this new blackened area cannot be selected on the campaign map unless you toggle FOW off via the RomeShell console, although you can click on the city and select the unit cards individually. moving a unit into the blackened area will momentarily restore vision, but will revert back to the bugged state once the unit moves out of the field-of-view. moving a new unit into the city itself will not restore vision either, as it become a part of the stack within the city, which is somehow now marked as "visionless". things will stay this way in all consecutive turns unless the game is reloaded. i think there is a chance it will be restored once you upgrade the residence again, though i haven't bothered to test this.

My experience is contrary, i.e. could not reproduce this problem. Do you have a screenshot showing this "blackout"? Maybe it's faction/city specific or something?

**tai4ji2x** · May 15, 2005, 04:04 PM

basically all of modern former yugoslavia - (the cities that are visible are only because of units newly moved into the area. i cannot select the unit SW of Iuvavum unless i toggle off FOW)

with fog-of-war toggled off: (note the rebel unit NE of Aquileia)

... only visible after i move a spy there

**Borsook** · May 15, 2005, 04:29 PM

@tai4ji2x - You're not using Vanilla RTW! My tests show that this problem does not appear in normal 1.2 (and this is what's this topic is about), most probably this error is caused by the map modification, conntact the author of it about it, I'm sure he'll try to do something with this.

**tai4ji2x** · May 15, 2005, 04:42 PM

whoops, my bad - just realized that too, :lol . hmm... can anyone else confirm that this doesn't occur in vanilla?

it's certainly listed as a problem in the org's thread however, which seems to indicate others are experiencing it in vanilla as well http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=46366

EDIT - wait, i remember it happening in vanilla all the time for me. i'll test it the next time i try. currently leaving RTR on 24/7 to avoid load/save reassessment "feature"

**maximusminimus** · May 15, 2005, 06:34 PM

Yes, it happens in vanilla, although i don't have any screenshot to prove it. Unless ofcourse you don't consider it vanilla anymore (for this purpose) if one has some custom skins on it.
Unfortunatly that campaign savegame was acidentally overwrited, so i can't reproduce it right away.
I was playing a Carthaginian campaign, and another thing that hapened was i didn't get generals bodyguard upgrade when i builded the imperial palace (or whatever the name is).

**Borsook** · May 16, 2005, 09:32 AM

Hmmm I'll try to test it some more, but even if happens in vanilla it does not happen all time (i.e. not in all the cities/factions/maybe a combination of buildings?)
PS. Sorry everyone, I promised a bigger update some time ago, but been terribly busy since, will find time definetly this week.

**tai4ji2x** · May 16, 2005, 05:29 PM

just tried it with vanilla, and it happens. perhaps it is specific to certain video cards/drivers? i'm using radeon9800 with omega drivers

**Borsook** · May 16, 2005, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by tai4ji2x@May 16 2005, 04:29 PM
just tried it with vanilla, and it happens. perhaps it is specific to certain video cards/drivers? i'm using radeon9800 with omega drivers

Very unlikely. To be honest I've tested this (in few precious minutes I found) in my Parthian save... and did not see this. I should have more time in the very near future will do proper testings with other factions then.

**maximusminimus** · May 17, 2005, 02:57 AM

Regarding AI Diplomacy:
Numidia atacked me (Carthage), and the next turn (after they loose the battle) they send me this message. :lol
What do you make of this? *tongue*

**maximusminimus** · May 17, 2005, 03:02 AM

Then i propose a ceasse fire and here is their awnser. :blink
Campaign dificulty - hard.

I think the AI diplomacy has major problems of all sorts.

**player1** · July 06, 2005, 06:20 PM

New bug:

CharacterComesOfAge and CharacterMarries events don't work in regard to ancillary generation.

There is a reason why evil mother-in-law or overprotective nanny don't happen as retinue members.

**Borsook** · May 17, 2005, 03:15 AM

Originally posted by maximusminimus@May 17 2005, 01:57 AM
Regarding AI Diplomacy:
Numidia atacked me (Carthage), and the next turn (after they loose the battle) they send me this message. :lol
What do you make of this? *tongue*

Classic RTW diplomacy, seen that too. I got this message once from a faction I was at peace with.

**Borsook** · May 18, 2005, 05:48 AM

Update:

? Player cannot attack an enemy fleet inside the port with his fleet (only block the port), but should he select an invidual ship inside his fleet (clicking on her icon) than the attack is possible

I've tried to reproduce the "fog of war after constructing goverment building" issue in Julii campaign, but it simply does not happen... So if you've seen it tell me:
1.What faction were you playing
2. Which city it was
3. Which level of goverment building have You constructed.

Thanx and waiting for further input.

**Sebastiaan** · June 27, 2005, 09:08 AM

I like to add some graphical glitches with trade routes.

- Trade wagons apprear to accelerate and deaccelerate at certain roads
- Trade ships behave like hovercrasft in which they turn around their own axel.

**Borsook** · July 01, 2005, 05:51 AM

@Sebastiaan - thanx for the input, the FOW seems not to appear every time, thus it does not go into the main list. The graphical glitches that you mention do not affect gameplay in any way, so I'll leave them out (already some people have problems with reading the list on account of it's length

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