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[Kryme101]

Hey everyone im new here been reading some threads for a week or so now but just registerd today iv got a queastion...im playing as portugal i just taken over the holy land iv crushed Egypt and im now very good allies with Turkey i want to invade Byzantium and take their lands but i dont wanna be the aggressor is there anyway to provoke a war between Turkey and the Byzantines? if anyone knows a simple way let me know thanks

[Reynolds]

Welcome,

Just give the Turks money to attack the Byzantines and you're are sorted, you should be able to afford it because the Holy Lands are a rich area and you say you are good allie with the Turks

Or just leave a succesion of 1 unit armies in Byzantine territory and let your relations drop to abysmal, this might make them attack you

[Kryme101]

Hmm ill try that thanks and yeah i am making alot of money in the holy land i love that place lol iv have been giving them money for a while and nothing but ill do what you said and see if they attack me first

[Gotlander]

There's always a risk of them attacking you instead of the byzantines, every faction will backstab you eventually.
When you give them money, you do add the 'attack faction' demand, do you?

[Kryme101]

yeah i ask them to attack iv done it already but no war just gonna give up and attack both of them eventually *evil laugh* lol

[Gotlander]

yeah i ask them to attack iv done it already but no war just gonna give up and attack both of them eventually *evil laugh* lol

They usually do wait until the demand is nearly expired, they first use all the money you give them. And at about the 14th turn (an attack faction demand usually expires after 15 turns) they either attack you, or betray you and laugh as you gave them some free florins, in which case you should rip their lower jaws of and burn the cities

[Kryme101]

yeah you were right Gotlander im playing it now they just atacked Adana and blockaded Cyprus looks like the got another army moving down towards Antioch =( damn them oh well im gonna go kill em noow =D

[Gotlander]

duh...I'm Flemish, I'm always right

[jsktrogdor]

yeah you were right Gotlander im playing it now they just atacked Adana and blockaded Cyprus looks like the got another army moving down towards Antioch =( damn them oh well im gonna go kill em noow =D

Are you playing vanilla? I always hated that about AI, the constant breaking of alliances. Whenever they'd get bored they would up and decide to backstab you. Its the main reason I tried SS; stronger alliances.