Siege weapons

**Tankai** · February 28, 2009, 02:22 PM

Someone correct me if Im wrong, but I believe that the romans at least had a tendency to build their catapults and stuff like that on their siege camps, just like ladders or siege towers. Will we be able to do this?

**sirfiggin** · February 28, 2009, 03:19 PM

umm......no?

**Mediolanicus** · February 28, 2009, 03:26 PM

Hard coded. You can only make rams, ladders, towers and sap point before battle. And that's it.

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · March 03, 2009, 12:35 PM

Indeed. Unfortunately, the game only allows you to built the siege equipment that is hardcoded into the game, no more, no less.

**eddy_purpus** · March 03, 2009, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Mediolanicus

Hard coded. You can only make rams, ladders, towers and sap point before battle. And that's it.

Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus

Indeed. Unfortunately, the game only allows you to built the siege equipment that is hardcoded into the game, no more, no less.

That sucks =(

**Calamarain** · March 05, 2009, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus

Indeed. Unfortunately, the game only allows you to built the siege equipment that is hardcoded into the game, no more, no less.

Well, good thing you aren't modding a space battle game then. Building laser tanks and nuclear rockets for seige would be a bit overpowered

**Tankai** · May 15, 2009, 03:46 PM

Speaking of sap points, can the team include a modded version of this?

**Asparagus** · May 15, 2009, 11:02 PM

I thought Rome was the only one that included sapping. How do you do it in Medieval 2?

**Tankai** · May 16, 2009, 04:07 AM

That's what Im asking.

**lenin96** · May 17, 2009, 03:37 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong: Didn't the EB team say they wont be using sapping as it was too ahistorical when it was represented in game?

**Tankai** · May 17, 2009, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by lenin96

Correct me if I'm wrong: Didn't the EB team say they wont be using sapping as it was too ahistorical when it was represented in game?

That's why I asked about a modded version. Historicaly it could take weeks or months to dig one(1/5 or 1 turns per tunnel). The team would have to find a way to make the men get inside the tunnel and make it crumble a few moments later, without digging sounds or anything. Can this be done? Is it possible to mod the thing?

**Tankai** · May 23, 2009, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Tankai

That's why I asked about a modded version. Historicaly it could take weeks or months to dig one(1/5 or 1 turns per tunnel). The team would have to find a way to make the men get inside the tunnel and make it crumble a few moments later, without digging sounds or anything. Can this be done? Is it possible to mod the thing?

So, it can't?

**DraeKlae** · May 23, 2009, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Tankai

That's why I asked about a modded version. Historicaly it could take weeks or months to dig one(1/5 or 1 turns per tunnel). The team would have to find a way to make the men get inside the tunnel and make it crumble a few moments later, without digging sounds or anything. Can this be done? Is it possible to mod the thing?

Maybe it can be done, by replacing the sound file of the sapping with an empty one, but you'd still get the graphics on the ground I think.

**Tankai** · May 24, 2009, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by DraeKlae

Maybe it can be done, by replacing the sound file of the sapping with an empty one, but you'd still get the graphics on the ground I think.

Unless the graphics themselfs are replaced for nothing as well. Thanks, I should have seen it.

Though we would still have to see only one or two soldiers from any battalion marching in, then running out, the smoke would have to come out of the sap entrance and then finnaly the walls would colapse. This might be a bit harder. What files would I need to mod to achieve this, if it can be done at all?

**DraeKlae** · May 18, 2009, 06:15 PM

It could be done, with a yes/no show me script. The script would ask the player if they wished to build catapults and, using create_unit and add_money, create the catapults next turn and reduce the cost from the player's treasure. It could not be done, however, for the AI, so it'd end up as an exploit in favor of the human player, which is not good, since the player already has a good exploit (thinking).