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    ok ive been playing total war games for a while but specifically in MTW2 ive never had a good enough computer to play the battles. Well now that I do I have a noob question for u guys. Im fighting a campaign with the battles time limits turned off. Well the Mongols r here and i regret it now . They r sieging Antioch and I can keep them from getting in but if i leave the walls the cavalry will rape me. I killed all the siege equipement except one incopitent unit of trebuchet which isnt doing anything. Will the enemy retreat if those trebuchets r destroyed or would I have to fight the whole horde in to routing to get them to leave? If the latter is true is there any console command to change it to a time limited battle ?

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    They will stay there.... I suppose you could send light calvary or another fast unit out to be attacked and lead the enemy into your towers range...that is a bit of an exploit tho..


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    Yeah not much you can do except attack them outside or try tricking a few units at a time inside.

    What is the power of each force? How many men and what units do you each have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Tony View Post
    Yeah not much you can do except attack them outside or try tricking a few units at a time inside.

    What is the power of each force? How many men and what units do you each have?
    well its 3 to 1 in favour of the mongols, they have a buttload of horse archers, and the infantry are easy to get rid of tho. I think only like 4 units got to the top walls out of about maybe 16. My force is pretty evenly divided between heavy infantry, crusader spearmen, and archers save 3 units of heavy cavalry. oh yea they also have siege weapons rockets and trebuchets. the last time i fought the battle i managed to rout all but one unit of trebuchet at the cost of most of my cavalry.

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    So if I got it right when you said "the last time you played it" you can re-load the battle to try again?

    Well if thats the case here is what I would do:

    Have your archers on the walls ofcourse but dont use fire arrows as this slows down their rate of fire. Concentrate their fire at the most densley packed area of enemy soldiers.

    Leave any other infantry off the walls but nearby to take any mongols that make it up and over. If you need to you can place 1 or 2 units of infantry on the walls to protect your archers but you want most infantry off the walls so you wont lose them to siege fire.

    Also have your spearmen near the walls because you are going to let the mongols breach your gate and possibly walls. Once the breach is made rush some spearmen to defend from the cavalry and infantry that will rush in. Make sure your spearmen are in guard mode.

    Now have your cavalry on side streets. As the fighting at the breaches continues your forces may start getting pushed back. If this happens use your reserved cavalry to charge the enemy flanks.

    This should bring you victory or a close defeat. Either way rhe enemy army takes heavy losses and you can easily retake the town.

    Hope this helps and let me know what happens
    Fight On!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Tony View Post
    So if I got it right when you said "the last time you played it" you can re-load the battle to try again?

    Well if thats the case here is what I would do:

    Have your archers on the walls ofcourse but dont use fire arrows as this slows down their rate of fire. Concentrate their fire at the most densley packed area of enemy soldiers.

    Leave any other infantry off the walls but nearby to take any mongols that make it up and over. If you need to you can place 1 or 2 units of infantry on the walls to protect your archers but you want most infantry off the walls so you wont lose them to siege fire.

    Also have your spearmen near the walls because you are going to let the mongols breach your gate and possibly walls. Once the breach is made rush some spearmen to defend from the cavalry and infantry that will rush in. Make sure your spearmen are in guard mode.

    Now have your cavalry on side streets. As the fighting at the breaches continues your forces may start getting pushed back. If this happens use your reserved cavalry to charge the enemy flanks.

    This should bring you victory or a close defeat. Either way rhe enemy army takes heavy losses and you can easily retake the town.

    Hope this helps and let me know what happens
    lol yea well i had the battle on and had to leave cuz it was taking like an hr but i always save right before battles for obvious reasons .

    Well i suppose what u say would probably work. I'm always pretty good at keeping my walls and gates intact and i have no problem doing that here. I have balista towers and I dont think they are smart enough to get around that with the battering rams. they consistently end up losing them just before they can get beneath the towers. although they did some damage to my walls before i routed their artillery. for the most part tho the horse archers stay back until the gate goes down so i typically leave the infantry on the wall and ready to respond.

    well thanks ill keep this stuff in mind, unfortunately i just autoresoved it but oh well.

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    Banzai!!! You should charge at them like a madman.
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