Serious attack drop

[shibbieNIS]

I'm new to SS (4.1) and so far have only played 10 turns. so far - as I can tell - the AI is better (as it hasn't backstabbed me 8 times already ) but the attack drop in the units seems to have unsettled me. Is this attack drop effecting battles? Is it in all units or just the early muslim units I;ve seen so far? or is it just changing the attack numbers but not changing the battles attack, or otherwise?

Any response would be greatly appreciated

[Caesar Clivus]

It is because SS uses the RealCombat system of stats. Attack is lower across the board. It allows for slower, more realistic battles unlike the arcade-y battles of vanilla.

[Smikis]

It is because SS uses the RealCombat system of stats. Attack is lower across the board. It allows for slower, more realistic battles unlike the arcade-y battles of vanilla.

it goes extremely fast when you starve out and get couple of charges to yours army side..

fast part is where yours army flees , i wished i frapsed that battle..

had 2.2k vs 1.2k + 2k or so, exterminated first 1.2k . loosing about 18-200 troops, and had even fight 2k vs 2k , they had strong cavalry , i had loads of spearmens.. even set them in positions to protect flanks .. didnt had enough cavalry to intercepts both flanks.. so choose just to take one.. outnumbering them there 2 to 1 atleast.. i thought ill deal with them fast enough.. in the end.. i almost lost everything i had there to 1-2 squads of theirs riders.. i was shocked..

another flank got few charges.. and my army started fleeing.. one by one.. like colapsing domino.. i got crushed.. killing maybe 150-200 of his units..

thats for you.. - morale traits..

[Cleitanious]

You list about 18-200? lol

[shibbieNIS]

Ah ok. Thanks that clears up a lot.

[Alpha Zeke]

Cleit you would be surprised. Using only a hill I've used Militia to charge Knights back down and barely lost 100 men.

[Cleitanious]

Cleit you would be surprised. Using only a hill I've used Militia to charge Knights back down and barely lost 100 men.

Oh, I was just commenting on the 18-200 range used, it's pretty funny.

[Alpha Zeke]

Oh I get it. lol I missed that.

"He shot from about 2-17 times at the man" - An actual Eyewitness report

[Cleitanious]

Oh I get it. lol I missed that.

"He shot from about 2-17 times at the man" - An actual Eyewitness report

I remember hearing that one before. lol.

How long is it going to take? 2-8 weeks..... lol?

[Alpha Zeke]

I'll end my off topic sayings with this.

The company tells me allow for 2-6 weeks shipping, but I got it 3 days later.

[warblah]

The AI still backstabs me all the time in 4.1, did 6.1 improve on that?

Also, what's the suggested campaign difficulty for SS? I found "very hard" to be almost unplayable(unless you enjoy constant war) because the relationships with other factions automatically drops every year. Even in hard difficulty I have a hard time to maintain relationship with other factions.

[Caesar Clivus]

Also, what's the suggested campaign difficulty for SS? I found "very hard" to be almost unplayable(unless you enjoy constant war) because the relationships with other factions automatically drops every year. Even in hard difficulty I have a hard time to maintain relationship with other factions.

For 6.1, I always play on Hard campaign, very hard battles (Hard campaign because I still like diplomacy to be worth a damn). Be warned though that the 6.2 patch ups the difficulty by quite a bit. Medium on 6.2 is equal to Very hard on 6.1 or thereabouts.

[Viscule]

For 6.1, I always play on Hard campaign, very hard battles (Hard campaign because I still like diplomacy to be worth a damn). Be warned though that the 6.2 patch ups the difficulty by quite a bit. Medium on 6.2 is equal to Very hard on 6.1 or thereabouts.

Hey Caesar any idea if H is better for the battle than VH? I've heard that dread/chiv is to powerful on VH so i went H.

If not, then i have to restart again. The more of a challenge the more i learn.

Thanks in advance.

Patch 6.2, Byz empire, VH/H.

[Caesar Clivus]

I cant say that I've heard that about dread/chiv on VH. :hmmm:

[shibbieNIS]

Ok I'm finding the SS 4.1 mod quite difficult. I've built about 5 buildings and I'm nearly at gunpowder age! Byzantium and egypt just KEEP attacking me, seriously unrelenting attacks every turn on Iconium and damascus respectively (I'm playing as the Turks or Seljuk thingmybob). So I have no economy basically and my bank balance has only been over 3000 once - when I sacked Jerusalem.

Any advice? or will I just have to downgrade campaign difficulty?

also, is it possible to auto-resolve a fight without your leading general getting severely wounded?

[nostradamouse]

Start over, make markets and roads.

You'll have a good start and you'll have it easy

[shibbieNIS]

Thats exactly what I've been doing. all roads built I think and a couple markets but apart from that I can't get any revenue.

I'm thinking about restarting as turks again, but this time just sacking all cities and heading over to constantinople and nicaea.

Does anyone think this is a good tactic?

[Viscule]

Thats exactly what I've been doing. all roads built I think and a couple markets but apart from that I can't get any revenue.

I'm thinking about restarting as turks again, but this time just sacking all cities and heading over to constantinople and nicaea.

Does anyone think this is a good tactic?

Check every place and see how much market/port/roads increase the town/castles income. If its around 100-200 dont bother, use it on advancing yourself through warfare with your main focus being The Byzantine Empire. Keep a decent amount of people by the place you border to Kwarezmian empire so they MIGHT just focus on the north people i cant remember now, cuman something. Get an alliance with the egyptian people fast and keep them at bay.

Try to help the people egypts at war with discretely or else the egyptian WILL backstab you the moment they die. The templar or kingdom of jerusalem depending on which campaign you go with.

Note: If the templar/kingdom of jerusalem die, before you gain a foothold in the byzantine empire. You will have a hard time progressing further into the empire.

Hint: Always build watch towers at your borders. To see if anyone might come to suprise you. IF an army walk on your land, go ahead and think they will lay siege on your town the moment they reach it, even if they are not at war or in an alliance.

[shibbieNIS]

Check every place and see how much market/port/roads increase the town/castles income. If its around 100-200 dont bother,

Sorry, I dont understand what this means

[Viscule]

Sorry, I dont understand what this means

Press on the screenshot. You'll see under the construction tab that has a light white color on it. Press on that to open up the income, growth, religion in detail for the settlement.

You'll see how much a market/port/road will increase the income when its in the building tab. (The green thing there)

I hope this helps.

I cant say that I've heard that about dread/chiv on VH. :hmmm:

Any idea how i can test that?