Couple of questions

**saamohod** · February 27, 2009, 03:34 PM

1. Dismounted Teutonic - armour piercing?
Noticed that Dismounted Teutonic Knight (in Late Era Campaign for HRE) is "effective against armour". Why should one-handed sword be armour-piercing? Is it a mistake?

2. Wood shortage?
When playing with huge unit scale, longbowmen (and apparently any units utilizing stakes) deploy very short row of stake comparing to the unit's formation width, looks especially funny if the unit is in "spread out" mode. Can it be fixed in EDU files or whatever?

3.Rumour?
I've read somewhere in manuals for vanilla MTW2 that some mounted units can be dismounted (for example gothic knight). I've been playing SS for almost a year and never ran across such an option!!

thanx for answer

SS6.1+RR+RC

**django333** · February 27, 2009, 03:42 PM

3. I think that refers to the seperate units of dimounted knights (ie. heavy infantry). Not that knights can dismount during battle.

**CamBovenzi** · February 27, 2009, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by django333

3. I think that refers to the seperate units of dimounted knights (ie. heavy infantry). Not that knights can dismount during battle.

yeah i think they got rid of that feature for some strange reason.

**Caesar Clivus** · February 27, 2009, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by saamohod

1. Dismounted Teutonic - armour piercing?
Noticed that Dismounted Teutonic Knight (in Late Era Campaign for HRE) is "effective against armour". Why should one-handed sword be armour-piercing? Is it a mistake?

Where are you getting this from? I cant see anywhere in my game where Dism. Teutonic Knights have the armour piercing trait.

2. Wood shortage?
When playing with huge unit scale, longbowmen (and apparently any units utilizing stakes) deploy very short row of stake comparing to the unit's formation width, looks especially funny if the unit is in "spread out" mode. Can it be fixed in EDU files or whatever?

Can't be fixed. As far as I know the amount of stakes you get is set.

3.Rumour?
I've read somewhere in manuals for vanilla MTW2 that some mounted units can be dismounted (for example gothic knight). I've been playing SS for almost a year and never ran across such an option!!

There was no such feature ever in M2TW. The first MTW game did have this feature and Empire:TW has this feature (in fact in Empire you can dismount and remount your cavalry mid-battle) but it was never put in M2TW. Thats why you have mounted and dismounted versions of the same unit.

**saamohod** · February 27, 2009, 09:09 PM

I'm not lying!

Here's the proof attached.

SS6.1-RR-RC

**Caesar Clivus** · February 27, 2009, 09:26 PM

I assume that's the RR/RC that came with SS?

**TheLastPrivate** · February 28, 2009, 02:43 AM

That's because the "original" mounted teutonic knights had AP maces and there were no dismounted version in vanilla. When KK added the dismounted version he used a 1-hand sword model and put AP on it.

It would be unfair if the unit had AP when mounted but was stripped of AP when dismounted. For reasons why he didn't use a foot knight model with maces in the first place, you'd have to ask KK.