Squalor?????

**Oddleif** · February 27, 2009, 02:35 PM

How do I stop or slow down all this muck and filth that piles up in my cities? Any tips would be appreciated.:hmmm:

**Silent Assassin** · February 27, 2009, 02:40 PM

Squalors??? It was a problem with RTW, but now in M2TW they have alot less effect. I would love to answer you more on this but I'm not completely sure on what triggers it.

**Akhil_The_Great** · February 27, 2009, 02:42 PM

you can start from scratch, take a massive army outside of the city and take all your troops out.
Then attack the city when it becomes rebel and massacre the population, then build up the infrastructure that adds health and law bonus.

**Oddleif** · February 27, 2009, 02:48 PM

I don't find it a big problem but i would just like to tax my people at very high rates so I want my cities to run smoother. i never have enough florins.

**shibbieNIS** · February 27, 2009, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Oddleif

I don't find it a big problem but i would just like to tax my people at very high rates so I want my cities to run smoother. i never have enough florins.

Not sure if this is completely applicable here but I think that adding a chivalrous general to a city and building pro population and entertainment buildings cause him to become a benevolent ruler, lowering squalor and raising town happiness at the same time.

**Pink Beard** · February 28, 2009, 01:19 AM

Oh and one important thing: Don't try to rule a huge city from a town hall... atleast get up to councills chamber and onwards.

**General Nuisance esq** · February 28, 2009, 03:12 AM

Originally Posted by Pink Beard

Oh and one important thing: Don't try to rule a huge city from a town hall... atleast get up to councills chamber and onwards.

After the wall is completed these buildings are always next on my list as they seem to offer health and happiness benefits
So far I get no squalor problems and the only time I had the plague was in Dublin and it went quite quickly

**Old Geezer** · February 27, 2009, 04:55 PM

Aside from building larger walls and perhaps some other buildings (I'm not sure which if any), you can get a general with either characteristics or an ancillary (is it the architect?) which help. But squalor is not that such a problem - usually it just slows down growth for cities.

**eggthief** · February 27, 2009, 05:21 PM

Squalor is caused by population size. Constructing buildings that add the health bonus will lower it, but on the other hand population growth will increase and thus increase squalor again anyway. When squalor starts to become a problem the least you can do is raising the garrison+ taxes to slow it down and stop building farms.

**Vlad the Mad** · February 28, 2009, 01:11 PM

Just remember that in medieval times the cities weren't very clean...LOL!!

**Quercia** · February 28, 2009, 01:46 PM

Meh. who cares about health

Actually I mostly build the buildings that give me money. Be sure to run low on the farms upgrades though - a 4% on 4k people already is high in my opinion. The problem is the people will act like rabbits and you're unable to suffiiciently grow the cities before you at least have some happyness buildings in. The Town Hall tech tree is a good one as it adds +10% per upgrade. Most other buildings do with +5% per upgrade...

I give castles the chivalric family members, just because they need the growth. Cities nearly never have to do that.

**Old Geezer** · March 01, 2009, 02:58 PM

The townne hall tree does reduce squalor. I always build farms up to get the increase in population of the cities and castles that I really want to grow. More people means more trade and taxes; and, higher level buildings and better troops, ships, and characters.