Most U.S. troops will be out of Iraq by August 2010

[manofarms89]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090227/..._pr_wh/us_iraq

so i know what im gonna do next August:

[kerowhacko]

So, where's the follow up article saying "Iraq worse off since Sept. 2010" ?

[Invisible Sky Magician]

So, wheres the follow up article saying Iraq worse off since Sept. 2010 ?

Prevention is better than the cure: America should not have ever invaded anyone in the first place, so we wouldnt have to ask Will Iraq be worse or better off?

Blame the American public who got fooled by the media into linking 9/11 and Saddam Hussein.

[Quadratus]

Prevention is better than the cure: America should not have ever invaded anyone in the first place, so we wouldnt have to ask Will Iraq be worse or better off?

Blame the American public who got fooled by the media into linking 9/11 and Saddam Hussein.

But we are there in REALITY.

Can't go back in time dude.

[kerowhacko]

But we are there in REALITY.

Can't go back in time dude.

Exactly. I really don't like that common "argument" to the issue of pulling Americans out of Iraq.

I just don't think pulling out a majority of our forces in a year and a half is a good idea. I really think it should be more spread out. I know most people, especially fellow Americans, hate that idea, but again, the reality is that we're already there, so let's make sure that when we do leave, we do everything right that we can up until then to ensure we don't have to consider/argue over whether or not to invade/leave it the hell alone if things go to again.

It's a rough situation, and it's unfortunately one we can't just skip out of holding hands and leaving presents of kittens and daisies will make things pretty and happy over there.

[Invisible Sky Magician]

But we are there in REALITY.

Cant go back in time dude.

That may be so, but sooner or later, the American public will allow the USA to invade YET another country. Then we are going to ask ourselves YET again Should we withdraw or stay and do the job?

This needs to stop after Iraq.

Will history repeat itself?

Im leaning more towards yes.

[Gelgoog]

That may be so, but sooner or later, the American public will allow the USA to invade YET another country. Then we are going to ask ourselves YET again Should we withdraw or stay and do the job?

This needs to stop after Iraq.

Will history repeat itself?

Im leaning more towards yes.

its funny how when a bunch of muslims crash two planes into two huge symbols of american pride killing thousands of americans in the most horrific act of terrorism the modern world has seen while on live TV. yea its funny how an event like that would spark pro-war sentiment an allow those in power to "convince us" that someone has to pay. I am sure we could be convinced to invade another country....lets just call up north korea and ask them if they would deliver a suitcase nuke to DC. Just think, we could be invading NK next year...

[Exarch]

most?
that's good, but why not all?

[manofarms89]

most?
that's good, but why not all?

it might be a little dangerous if we all leave at once. gotta be well planned and cautious.

[Caelius]

Good on Obama for listening to Petraeus and the Pentagon on this one.

The combat portion of the war in Iraq is essentially over at this stage, and the residual footprint force of 35-50,000 is exactly what people have been saying would be left after the withdrawal of US combat forces for quite some time now.

most?
that's good, but why not all?

Because the US has vested interests in maintaining a presence there. Just as it did in Germany, Japan, and Korea. Iraq is no different.

[Nouvelle Vague]

Good on Obama for listening to Petraeus and the Pentagon on this one.

The combat portion of the war in Iraq is essentially over at this stage, and the residual footprint force of 35-50,000 is exactly what people have been saying would be left after the withdrawal of US combat forces for quite some time now.

All the top generals and military leaders got the heck out of there along ago, when they knew the bush admin has no clue what they were doing in Iraq.

[Heathen Hammer]

most?
that's good, but why not all?

Who will guard the oil? :hmmm:

[Random Emperor]

Who will guard the oil? :hmmm:

No american hopefully

[Caelius]

Who will guard the oil?

The Iraqi Army perhaps?

Like they've been doing for the past 4 years maybe?

[Heathen Hammer]

The Iraqi Army perhaps?

Like they've been doing for the past 4 years maybe?

I don't think collabortianists will have much power after the occupation is over.

[TSD]

most?
that's good, but why not all?

Easy, who are the iraqi's more afraid of Americans? or Extremist insurgents? While we are there to back them up, they will engage the insurgents, we go, your going to see a whole lot of Iraqi soldiers ditching their uniforms and melding back into the population. I guarantee, they extremists are waiting for the time to be right to overthrow the government in Iraq and the Iraqi's in the military don't have the nuts to dig in and stand against it. I was there, I interacted with these guys, some Iraqi soldiers are idealists and believe in the mission, whereas most just wanted a job. Mark my words, once the withdrawl occurs we are going to see massive flashpoints all over that country, the 50,000 or so US troops left behind wont be able to contain it. Obama will have a choice, re engage in Iraq, or pull out completely. Most of the American public, will be against re deployment to Iraq in a large scale, so Obama will leave, the government will collapse the country will be all mad max, until one islamic leader rallies enough to his cause to snuff out the competition, boom Iran part 2.

[Admiral Piett]

Obama will have a choice, re engage in Iraq, or pull out completely. Most of the American public, will be against re deployment to Iraq in a large scale, so Obama will leave, the government will collapse the country will be all mad max, until one islamic leader rallies enough to his cause to snuff out the competition, boom Iran part 2.

Which is we should never get involved in like this in the first place. It'll just make it worse. Now we've just screwed ourselves over and most of all we've potentially screwed the Iraqis future.

[Quadratus]

Which is we should never get involved in like this in the first place. It'll just make it worse. Now we've just screwed ourselves over and most of all we've potentially screwed the Iraqis future.

Sigh... More of this "We haven't gone in there" BS.


Reality is, we went in there, we are there now, we have to worry about the future.

YOU can NOT go back in TIME.

[Admiral Piett]

Sigh... More of this "We haven't gone in there" BS.


Reality is, we went in there, we are there now, we have to worry about the future.

YOU can NOT go back in TIME.

What I'm saying is that we aren't god. We can't change the mindset of a people and we cannot change the course of a nation without the efforts of its own people. As long as the Iraqis don't really care much for a secular democracy, it will never happen. So staying there will just be a big waste of time, money, reputation, and lives.

[jankren]

Stop the occupation now.