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    Default 4 Supermarkets set on fire in Södertälje, Sweden by group calling themselves "Global intifada".

    NOTE: The swedish network "Global intifada" is a part of the extreme left. There is no known correlation between them and any palestinian groups.

    Information about the fires can be found from these sources Source Same source google translate. My intent with the thread is not the fires themselves so I've added the google translate version in the spoiler for background. Edit: Also added Aftonbladets article that is more recent.

    Aftonbladet vi google translate
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    Two major store fires broke out in the night in Södertälje.

    According to information launched by the time fire bombs among the chips.

    SAPO is engaged to investigate the murder fires - and suspect a leftist extremist network.

    Shortly after midnight, came the first alarm: Willys store in Södertälje destroyed by fire. No one person injured, but the fire caused considerable material losses.

    Seven rescue teams were called to the site. When they started working with släckningsarbetet came next alarm.

    Just a few hundred meters away vällde smoke from Ica Supermarket. Fire The course was fast. Soon was a large part of the premises of lit.

    - Firemen were busy and did not report to the station, "says Katarina Karlsson at Södertörn emergency.
    Time bombs

    According to the two fires are started by means of timed fire bombs were placed at the chip shop departments.

    Two additional store fires broke out in Södertälje in the night. When the staff came to the food stores in Southern Willys Sydhamnen at half seven on Thursday morning they discovered that the fire there.

    - It was a small fire which they managed to extinguish itself, "says Per Hultman, Fire Protection Engineer at Södertörn fire.

    Even food stores Tempo in Saltskog center destroyed by fire last night.
    Threatening letter

    In recent months, two other store fire occurred in Södertälje. On December 22 a fire broke out at Coop Forum. Even then, the chip division. Just over a month ago, it was Ica Maxi in Södertälje by fire.

    It vänsterextrema Network Global Intifada linked to the fires.

    They have sent threatening letters in which they stir up a fire attack on shops selling goods from the U.S..

    They have a week put up posters with the same message, according to Benny Larsson, Commissioner at the security police, which are plugged into the case.

    - Yes, we are connected. It is clear that this is in our interest, "says Benny Larsson to Aftonbladet.

    Only last week, met staff at the now burnt Willys at a briefing.

    They were asked to be extra vigilant.
    No arrest

    The police had not arrested this morning for the night fires. Global Intifada is mainly known for fire bombs against two diplomatic cars in Stockholm three years ago, and fire bombs outside the Defense Materiel Administration, 2006.
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    Two large grocery stores in Södertälje was totally destroyed in fires that broke out at short intervals the night Thursday.
    Även en tredje butik där en brand rasade sedan morgonen ser ut att bli förstörd.
    Even a third shop where a fire raged since the morning seems to be destroyed.

    - Allting tyder på att åtminstone de båda första bränderna är anlagda.
    - Everything indicates that at least the first two fires are arson.
    Dels för att bränderna hade ett oerhört hastigt förlopp och dels det faktum att två bränder startade i två butiker under så kort tid, säger stationsbefälet Magnus Käck på Södertäljepolisen som startat en förundersökning om grov mordbrand.
    Partly because the fires had an extremely fast process and the fact that two fires started in two stores in such a short time, "said station officer Magnus Käck at Södertälje police launched an investigation of serious arson.
    Länsvakthavande polisbefälet Lennart Sjöstrand betraktar brandvågen som attentatsliknande och ser mycket allvarligt på händelserna.
    County duty police officer Lennart Sjöstrand consider fire wave that attacks similar and take very seriously the events.
    - Det är ju värden för många, många miljoner som har gått upp i rök, konstaterar han..
    - It 's values for many, many millions that have gone up in smoke, "he said ..
    Ingen misstänkt mordbrännare har gripits och det finns inga konkreta misstankar mot någon person.
    No one suspected murder burners have been arrested and there are no specific allegations against any person.
    Vittnen har sett två pojkar på moped i närheten av den första brandplatsen.
    Witnesses saw two boys on a moped in the vicinity of the first scene.
    De identifierades och hade enligt polisen inget med bränderna att göra.
    They were identified according to the police and had nothing to do with the fires.
    Första larmet kom klockan 00.15 från Willys i Weda-området, nära E 4.
    The first alarm came at 00.15 from Willys in Weda area, close to E 4.
    Knappt 20 minuter senare brann det även i en Ica-butik i närheten.
    Barely 20 minutes later burned it in an ICA stores nearby.
    Klockan 03.49 kom det tredje larmet om branden i butiken Saltskog.
    At 03.49 was the third alarm on the fire in the shop Saltskog.
    - Willys är helt förstört och även större delen av Ica-butiken är uppbränd.
    - Willys is completely destroyed and most of the Ica-shop is burnt up.
    När första polispatrullen kom såg man hur lågor slog upp genom plåttaket på Willys-butiken och därifrån kunde de även se hur det börjat brinna på Ica, berättar Magnus Käck.
    When the first police patrol arrived saw the flames beat up by sheet metal roof of the Willys-shop and from there they could also see how it started to burn in Ica, says Magnus Käck.
    Rök har även spridit sig till andra butiker och arbetsplatser i det komplex, en ombyggd industrilokal, där Willys är inhyst.
    Smoke also spread to other shops and workplaces in the complex, a converted industrial, where Willys is housed.
    Flera butiker och andra lokaler har fått omfattande rök och vattenskador.
    Several shops and other premises have received extensive smoke and water damage.
    Endast en mindre tillbyggnad på Ica-butiken, cirka 200-300 meter därifrån, ska ha klarat sig undan elden som rasade där.
    Only a small extension on ICA stores, approximately 200-300 meters from there, must have passed out of the fire that raged there.
    Stabsbefälet på Södertörns brandförsvarsförbund Björn Westerberg berättar att även den tredje butiken, i Saltskog, ser ut att bli helt förstörd.
    Stab command of Södertörn fire Federal Björn Westerberg says that also the third store, in Saltskog, promises to be completely destroyed.
    - När vi kom var det en fullt utvecklad brand, berättar han för TT vid halv sex-tiden på morgonen.
    - When we arrived, it was a fully developed fire, he says to TT at half six in the morning.
    Enligt Lennart Sjöstrand på Stockholmspolisen är även den butiken en Ica-butik, cirka 1.000 kvadratmeter stor.
    According to Lennart Sjöstrand at Stockholm police are also on the shop one ICA shop, approximately 1000 square meters large.
    När personalen kom till matbutiken Willys Södra i Sydhamnen vid halv sju på torsdagsmorgonen upptäckte de att det brann där.
    When the staff came to the food stores in Southern Willys Sydhamnen at half seven on Thursday morning they discovered that the fire there.
    - Det var en mindre brand som de lyckades släcka själva, säger Per Hultman, brandingenjör på Södertörns brandförsvar.
    - It was a small fire which they managed to extinguish itself, "says Per Hultman, Fire Protection Engineer at Södertörn fire.
    Det var den fjärde branden sedan midnatt i olika butiker i Södertälje.
    It was the fourth fire since midnight in some shops in Södertälje.
    Mellan 75 och 100 brandmän från hela Stockholms län, delar av Uppsala län samt Nyköping bekämpade bränderna, främst genom att försöka hindra dem från att sprida sig.
    Between 75 and 100 firefighters from across the County, part of Uppsala County and Nyköping fought the fires, mainly by trying to prevent them from spreading.
    Släckningsarbetet pågick ännu på morgonen.
    Släckningsarbetet were still in the morning.
    I Willys-butiken och Saltskog-butiken brann det fortfarande kraftigt.
    The Willys-shop and Saltskog store fire is still strong.
    Branden i Ica-butiken nära Willys var däremot under kontroll.
    The fire in ICA stores near Willys was under control.


    Stickers telling people to burn stores selling american goods have previously been reported by citizens living in Södertälje. These are signed by the group "Global intifada". Tonight were 4 major supermarkets in Södertälje burnt down, initial reports have suggested that a firebomb hidden among the crisps were the source of the fire. Firebombs are known to have been used by leftist extremists before, 2 members of AFA Skaraborg were found guilty of trying to firebomb McDonalds in Nyköping in 2006. Another 14 were suspected for collaboration in the attack but not found guilty.

    Personally am I beginning to suspect that extreme left organisations are trying to cause disturbances in immigrant heavy areas in the hope that the situation will escalate. We saw the same pattern in Rosengård this autumn when members of Afa arrived after the initial riots had calmed down and renewed them. Extreme leftists in Sweden are from my experience generally drawn from the ethnically swedish upper middleclass with very little connection to segregated areas. Their actions just seem so stupid that I have a hard time accepting their excistance in Sweden. Had they actually cared about immigrants would they have tried to improve their living conditions. Right now it seems like they want to simply exploit immigrants to bring about the glorious revolution....


    About Global intifada from swedish wikipedia
    Global Intifada is a leftist extreme loosely cohesive network, known for fire bombs against two diplomatic cars in Stockholm in 2005, and the deployment of fire bombs at FMV 2006. Global Intifada actions are sporadic in nature and no continous activity is known.

    The organization says itself fighting imperialism and capitalism through illegal means they call direct action.

    Examples of this are the attacks with fire bombs against the Danish Embassy and the Russian Embassy cars in January 14, 2005 and March 24, 2005. The attacks received attention in Swedish media. The attacks occurred as a protest against the Danish imigrationspolitiken and support for the war in Iraq and the Russian war in Chechnya. Global Intifada also took on debt for the deployment of fire bombs at the Defense Materiel Administration (FMV) in Stockholm August 28, 2006 . The stated reason to the media was FMV actively buy military equipment of Israel.
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    Default Re: 4 Supermarkets set on fire in Södertälje, Sweden by group calling themselves "Global intifada".

    in the "real" news you read more about scandinavian right extremists lately

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlerich View Post
    in the "real" news you read more about scandinavian right extremists lately
    But "the" "real" "media" is of course "PC", "lefty" and "backstabbing" "their" "own" "people".
    Quote Originally Posted by snuggans View Post
    we can safely say that a % of those 130 were Houthi/Iranian militants that needed to be stopped unfortunately

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorn777 View Post
    But "the" "real" "media" is of course "PC", "lefty" and "backstabbing" "their" "own" "people".
    Most wise and true thing said on this forum so far... European medias are so biased towards the left (IN GENERAL) that it hurts...

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    Default Re: 4 Supermarkets set on fire in Södertälje, Sweden by group calling themselves "Global intifada".

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorn777 View Post
    But "the" "real" "media" is of course "PC", "lefty" and "backstabbing" "their" "own" "people".
    Being that the media in Norway and Sweden has hardly reported this, your statement would be true if you removed the quotation marks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erlinggra View Post
    Being that the media in Norway and Sweden has hardly reported this, your statement would be true if you removed the quotation marks.
    What? It was on the morning news, and I would expect that it was on the evening news as well. It was also on VG.no.

    TV2 even interviewed one of the shop owners (or workers, don't remember), I was quite surprised to see that it was an arab.
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    Default Re: 4 Supermarkets set on fire in Södertälje, Sweden by group calling themselves "Global intifada".

    Are they a Muslim group or a Leftist Arab group? I'm a little confused about who they actually are.

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    Default Re: 4 Supermarkets set on fire in Södertälje, Sweden by group calling themselves "Global intifada".

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlerich View Post
    in the "real" news you read more about scandinavian right extremists lately

    First you need to define "real", then you need to define which scandinavian country. Then I'll be able to find out if your joking, your serious or if your a rightwing extremist trying to be funny.

    Quote Originally Posted by Burnum View Post
    Are they a Muslim group or a Leftist Arab group? I'm a little confused about who they actually are.
    Both the muslims and the Arabs are probably innocent in this one. It's a Swedish leftist extremist group. These people are generally from a middleclass or upper middle class background. Almost all the immigrants I've seen in the far left have either been Chilean or Iranians who's parents moved to Sweden in the 70s or early 80s.

    It's this part that disturbs me the most. It seems like leftwing extremists want to increase tensions in segregated areas inorder to cause an increase in civic unrest.
    Last edited by Adar; February 26, 2009 at 02:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adar View Post
    Both the muslims and the Arabs are probably innocent in this one. It's a Swedish leftist extremist group. These people are generally from a middleclass or upper middle class background. Almost all the immigrants I've seen in the far left have either been Chilean or Iranians who's parents moved to Sweden in the 70s or early 80s.

    It's this part that disturbs me the most. It seems like leftwing extremists want to increase tensions in segregated areas inorder to cause an increase in civic unrest.
    Thanks, I still wonder why they use the word ""intifada though. Considering that the word has both Radical Muslim and Arab nationalist, none of those are left-wing.

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    Default Re: 4 Supermarkets set on fire in Södertälje, Sweden by group calling themselves "Global intifada".

    Quote Originally Posted by Burnum View Post
    Thanks, I still wonder why they use the word ""intifada though. Considering that the word has both Radical Muslim and Arab nationalist, none of those are left-wing.
    Because the Far-Left has a huge fanboyism for Islam...

    Seriousely they are probably anti-Israel.
    And as far-leftish people can't see the different between Israel and Jews they are anti-semitists also.

    Something those people are against, they say
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    Quote Originally Posted by IPA35 View Post
    Seriousely they are probably anti-Israel.
    I think they are anti American as they wanna burn stores with American products.

    Most wise and true thing said on this forum so far... European medias are so biased towards the left (IN GENERAL) that it hurts...
    Hard to say we defenatly have some bisaed media but i guess it depend on what you consider left right and center.

    Being that the media in Norway and Sweden has hardly reported this, your statement would be true if you removed the quotation marks.
    Not true been a lot in the media.

    But also as i hear it it migth also be the work of criminal gangs that are looking to move in on the market of the stores. And the said gans have earlyer tryed to pressure the store owners so it migth not be crazy leftist.


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    Default Re: 4 Supermarkets set on fire in Södertälje, Sweden by group calling themselves "Global intifada".

    Not very tough or brave to sneak around in the dark lighting up supermarkets, is it?

    Anyone could do it. Doesn't take much preparation, nobody to stop you really.....

    I mean, these guys sound like complete and utter wimps. They're probably about 16 years old and believe they are really hardcore, stand in front of the mirror doing salutes or some crap.

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    Default Re: 4 Supermarkets set on fire in Södertälje, Sweden by group calling themselves "Global intifada".

    Quote Originally Posted by IPA35
    Because the Far-Left has a huge fanboyism for Islam...

    Seriousely they probably probably anti-Israel.
    And as far-leftish people can't see the different between Israel and Jews they are anti-semitists also.

    Something those people are against, they say
    So these guys are hypocrites?

    Quote Originally Posted by boofhead
    Not very tough or brave to sneak around in the dark lighting up supermarkets, is it?

    Anyone could do it. Doesn't take much preparation, nobody to stop you really.....

    I mean, these guys sound like complete and utter wimps. They're probably about 16 years old and believe they are really hardcore, stand in front of the mirror doing salutes or some crap.
    My thoughts exactly, hell me and a bunch of my friends did something more awesome last New Year's, we set off a huge load of fireworks in my backyard (including a real M-80 ), undoubtedly it was more epic (and risky ) than burning some markets.

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    Yes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by IPA35
    Yes...
    Thought so...what fools...why doesn't the police crack down on these guys? And why do far-right 'fascists' seem to get more attention in Sweden than their extreme left counterparts? It also appears that it is upper middle-class bastards doing this...who do they think they are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    It also appears that it is upper middle-class bastards doing this...who do they think they are?
    Same in every country, posh brats playing at being workers revolutionaries. 10 years down the line they'll probably be working for an investment bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshireman
    Same in every country, posh brats playing at being workers revolutionaries. 10 years down the line they'll probably be working for an investment bank.
    I guess so, here in my school we have a bunch of pseudohippies who are among the most militant, rotten little s you will find in the South...good thing everybody practically spits at them, last Christmas two of these guys thought it'd be funny to spraypaint a nativity display and put up a retarded sign next to it, unfortunately for them more than a few of my buddies were coming to have a look, too bad I couldn't be with them

    Why is it that it is always middle class kids who do this kind of anyway? I'd have expected this madness from the lower classes :hmmm:

    Nice sig BTW, is it supposed to represent the British Empire coming back to life with a vengeance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Nice sig BTW, is it supposed to represent the British Empire coming back to life with a vengeance?
    Its the cover from Iron Maidens, 'The Trooper' album. (But in my mind it probably represents what you said)

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post

    Why is it that it is always middle class kids who do this kind of anyway? I'd have expected this madness from the lower classes :hmmm:
    Poor people doesn't have the time or motivation to be a part of these kinds of stupidities. You see the same pattern in most famous communists Out of Stalin, Lenin, Rosa Luxemburg, Mao and Che Guevara will a quick wikipedia search show that only Stalin had poor parents. He did however get a scholarship at age 16 to attend a priest seminar so he never became a proper "worker" either.

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    Default Re: 4 Supermarkets set on fire in Södertälje, Sweden by group calling themselves "Global intifada".

    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshireman View Post
    Same in every country, posh brats playing at being workers revolutionaries. 10 years down the line they'll probably be working for an investment bank.
    Indeed.
    I remember in my school that the rich kids were always "communists".
    Naturally they were always wearing designer clothes.

    As for these people, well stop pretending you are Che Guevara.
    You are swedish upper class/high class that people generally don't like.
    So stop pretending you are doing it for us middle class/lower class people.
    We don't want your help, we don't need your help and we bloody well know what type of spoon you were born with.
    So off.


    *disclaimer: Do note that this is not aimed at anyone on this forum but to the people that join these anti-fascist groups and then engage in terrorism and destruction of private property.

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