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    Sunday, February 22, 2009

    Norway: FRP against 'sneak Islamization' (Progress party)



    Norway: FRP against 'sneak Islamization'

    Siv Jensen, head of the Norwegian Progress Party (FRP), came out hard against the government and what she calls 'sneak Islamization' in Norway, during the party's national meeting.
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    "The reality is that people are now in the process of allowing a form of sneak-Islamization in this society and we must put a stop to that," Jensen said in her speech.

    Clearly referring to the hijab-debate, the head of the FRP came out against what she thinks is the special treatment of minority groups in Norway today.

    "When we give in to demands for halal food in prisons, when we give in that Muslim girls won't be able to do sports together with Norwegian children. This is already special treatment which I think weakens the ability to integrate people in Norwegian society and which will cause greater challenges in the next decade," she told TV2. Jensen thinks prisoners should be very satisfied having three warm meals a day.

    "We will not accept demands for more vacation days of a religious character," she said, and will neither accept that some Oslo schools practice sex-segregated sports and swimming.

    - It's not possible for some demands to be legitimate, for example that Muslims will get a days off on their religious holidays?

    "We set official vacation days in Norway, and I think that should apply," answers Jensen. She adds that all who live in Norway must follow the rules and arrangements that are there.

    Should the FRP get to power, Siv Jensen has clear plans.

    "Then it's Norwegian law and Norwegian regulations and Norwegian rule which will underlie everything we do and we don't allow special demands from some individual groups in this society."

    In her speech, Jensen compared Oslo to the notorious Rosengård neighborhood of Malmö, where ambulance drivers, fire fighters and police hesitate to turn out.

    "Also Oslo approaches the development we see in Malmö," she said and described the situation in Rosengård as such: Sharia law has taken over completely. Swedish law has been set aside.

    - You fear that we will get to the Swedish state in Oslo?

    "Yes, we see several signs of that already. It's better to stop before it's too late," says Jensen to Aftenposten.

    In her speech she referred to a report from Aftenposten Aften about a police operation against the premises used by the Alfredha Islamic Center and a Kurdish club. The place was shut down after the police discovered smuggled cigarettes, amphetamines, shock weapons and possibly smuggled meat, as well as a locked emergency exist and fire extinguishers and a non-functioning fire-alarm.

    "The owners and operators naturally confess to none of this. But this happens every day. It's only the FRP which for 30 years warned against this, who are able to clean up," claims Jensen.

    - Do you think that such illegality that was revealed happens only because we have immigration to Norway?

    "It happens in other communities too," admits Jensen, "but in many contexts there's a total lack of control over what happens in these communities. People hide behind a mosque - and the authorities shut their eyes to it."

    - In this case the police took action?

    "The police do their job. But Norwegian politicians shut their eyes to this development happening."

    - Do you think that mosques are camouflage for illegality?

    "I don't know that. But I've got many reports from people of minority background and I think people will be shocked if they heard what's going on. I've hard rumors that people operate outside of Norwegian law when it comes to marriage and abuse of young women. Much of what we meet - gang grime, riots in connection to demonstrations in Oslo - are clear warnings that we must do something."

    Sources: TV2, Aftenposten (Norwegian)


    • Several future coalition partners for the September 09' election calls the speech, Hitler-ish and pure propaganda. The progress party(Siv jensen) currently holds about 20%(30% before credit-crunch). And that a coalition is wearing very thin.
    • Even the current prime ministre tells her to calm down. ...Stop telling exaggerated lies and that she produce fear among the domestic population against moderate Muslims.
    • The Principle of the School reject any claims about religious motive. She tells this seperation was started because girls was less motivated to go to PE-classes before.
    • Meat was served to Islamic prisenors, without telling. This triggerd a wide debate.
    • Option of Hijab for female police. This comes after recruting was stagnating. This had worked for sweedish and UK police. The suggestion was declined after several heated debates.
    • The mayor and police officer of Malö reject the claim. and invites Siv Jensen to come to Malmö to see what she calls "sharia law".
    This have triggerd a great hovoc in Norwegian bloggers aswell as forums: deviding those who think she speaks clear and simple and those who get shiver from a Hitler-ish approch. See her face-expression.(yeah, she looks like a dike)

    Do you think she goes to far?
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    Yes, true fear mongering when your other messages are moot. They do this because it has become PC, and earns you some points at the misinformed peoples doormats. Back in the days she would not have dared.
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    we can safely say that a % of those 130 were Houthi/Iranian militants that needed to be stopped unfortunately

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    good on her tbh. we hear too much bs elsewhere about 'integration' through segregation.

    We're brought up that we're all the same, all equal.. etc etc.. yet it would appear, for various reasons, reality is different - so good on her for putting the hypocrisy of the PCers on display.

    while i wouldnt go quite as far as she does (guess ive already been battered down being a UK citizen..minorities have all but taken over here), i certainly wouldnt describe it as 'hitlerish'.. thats outrageously offensive and is an extremely irresponsible term to use for merely attempting to uphold equality in Norway.
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    Good, Europe needs to wake up. They will be a lot safer when they kick out all these violent muslims. Gang rapes in Norway and Sweden...just bloody scary. I think the only thing more scary than these violent Muslim mobs are the fools who defend them and want more. It's like they enjoy their women and children being raped and beaten, and their freedom attacked. I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scar Face View Post
    Good, Europe needs to wake up. They will be a lot safer when they kick out all these violent muslims. Gang rapes in Norway and Sweden...just bloody scary. I think the only thing more scary than these violent Muslim mobs are the fools who defend them and want more. It's like they enjoy their women and children being raped and beaten, and their freedom attacked. I don't know.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scar Face View Post
    Good, Europe needs to wake up. They will be a lot safer when they kick out all these violent muslims. Gang rapes in Norway and Sweden...just bloody scary. I think the only thing more scary than these violent Muslim mobs are the fools who defend them and want more. It's like they enjoy their women and children being raped and beaten, and their freedom attacked. I don't know.
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    This coming from a man who supports a party comprised of thugs, thieves, terrorists and paedophiles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scar Face View Post
    Good, Europe needs to wake up. They will be a lot safer when they kick out all these violent muslims. Gang rapes in Norway and Sweden...just bloody scary. I think the only thing more scary than these violent Muslim mobs are the fools who defend them and want more. It's like they enjoy their women and children being raped and beaten, and their freedom attacked. I don't know.
    Utter rubbish!
    The BNP reported a poop load of Crimes they told people were done by Minorities only for people with working brains to dissect the list and find that nearly the majority of their list of Anti-White Hate Crimes were utterly inaccurate and that most the trials the MINORITY were found 'Not Guilty' or weren't even Islamic in the first place.

    Further more I would like to state that 2 thirds of Muslim's in Britain on Terror Charges are found 'not guilty' and are freed.

    Remember the Rican Case? A Muslim that was supposedly guilty as Sin of smearing a deadly poison agent that kills on contact when touched on peoples car doors?
    The guy was quietly hushed away in the media because he was found 'NOT GUILTY'.

    And Finally, people talk about Muslim Terror in Britain YET they NEVER talk about the Far-Right Element of Britain.. That the British Nationalist Party have a South African Terrorist in their ranks who tried to blow up an Elementary School for mixed race children called Lambertus Nieuwhouf, or that former BNP member Robert Cottage was given 5 Years for having explosive devices in his house and that ANOTHER Far-Right Terrorist by the name of Martyn Gineard was found with Nail bombs and Child Pornography on his computer.
    All this was swept under the carpet or made Local News, away from mainstream eyes.

    The Islamification of Britain/Norway whatever stinks of Hitler's feelings towards the Jews and finger pointing them as Communist Partisans.
    causing a storm of hatred.

    Islamification? More like Pussification of Norway, the Qur'an doesn't encourage Rape so why is Islam being dragged into this?
    These people are Funde Nationalists, not proper Muslim's.
    Should we call every White Rapist a Christian because they have Christian parents?
    Or that we've had Muslim's in this Country for nearly 60 YEARS and only recently this whole rape thing has become an issue the last 10-15 years?

    Belt up mate.

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    Hahahaha these forums are so... strange. This could just as well be the 19th century if you exchange muslim with jew. OH NOES! THEY ARE TANKING OVER THE GOVERNMENT!!!

    Norway is just a name on your pass and the country you happened to be born in. I don't care at all how people live there lives inside this country. As long as they pay tax and obey the law. Which the majority does.

    If people want to take a free day in exchange for Christmas - sure! I'm not the one to tell people how to live there lives.
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    Another example of the problems of mass-immigration of any group.

    No, Europe won't wake up until it is too late. The writing is on the wall. Anybody who says anything is slammed by the PC accusations and that is the be-all and end-all of any discussion. The PC asshats have won. Get used to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boofhead View Post
    Another example of the problems of mass-immigration of any group.

    No, Europe won't wake up until it is too late. The writing is on the wall. Anybody who says anything is slammed by the PC accusations and that is the be-all and end-all of any discussion. The PC asshats have won. Get used to it.
    Stop being so pessimistic. A lot of parties in Europe get around 20% of the vote already. Hell, who knows, maybe it wont be needed? Immigrants have no loyalty to the society they leach off of. Maybe they will all GTFO when the economy goes south? One can hope!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boofhead View Post
    Another example of the problems of mass-immigration of any group.

    No, Europe won't wake up until it is too late. The writing is on the wall. Anybody who says anything is slammed by the PC accusations and that is the be-all and end-all of any discussion. The PC asshats have won. Get used to it.
    It's already too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie View Post
    It's already too late.
    I don't think it's too late yet. We still have a decade or so before the whole thing becomes irreversible. But yes, Europeans must now speak up or Islam will continually claim a bigger and bigger slice of the national pie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    I don't think it's too late yet. We still have a decade or so before the whole thing becomes irreversible. But yes, Europeans must now speak up or Islam will continually claim a bigger and bigger slice of the national pie.
    If such happens in my life time I'll take up arms and join whoever will fight for the preservation of European ideas... No ... If these people don't like Europe then stay the hell out.

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    A few things I thought I should address here.

    Quote Originally Posted by boofhead View Post
    Another example of the problems of mass-immigration of any group.

    No, Europe won't wake up until it is too late. The writing is on the wall. Anybody who says anything is slammed by the PC accusations and that is the be-all and end-all of any discussion. The PC asshats have won. Get used to it.
    Mass immigration? Well, moslems make up around 2 percent of the populationin Norway. Last year, the largest group of Moslems to immigrate was the Somalians, hordes of them arrived totaling; 2.000, Poles, on the other hand, who are catholic, numbered about 12.500.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos_Rouvelas View Post
    That is exactly right. The Norwegian Government however is not fostering integration by giving all the immigrants perks and special treatment.
    The main example Jensen could come up with was Halal meat being served in prison, and Moslem girls in Oslo not having to have gymnastics with boys or nothaving swimming practice. Whether these special measures are correct is debatable, but its hardly an enormous amount of special treatment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Holger Danske View Post
    Seriously Europe this just has to stop!
    Islam is already getting enough special attention as it is, which is incredibly lame. These people better just STFU and integrate into the societies they have chosen to settle in or settle in a country that better fits them. Simple As That!
    And regarding the Hijab for policewomen farce, which was virtually a suggestion-coup from two secretaries to the minister of justice. The suggestion was withdrawn, and as for the two secretaries, their political careers probably ruined. The two parties who supported the idea make up about 12-14 percent of the vote. So in essence, in this case it stopped...

    Quote Originally Posted by blackleaf View Post
    (Center-left)Norwegians belive that a minority, like new muslims, should convert into typical norwegians. Start unions. Get into domestic debates. Get into politics. Not by starting to buy skis, convert into Christians-culture or let go of their former roots. (The labour party holds 30%.)
    Eh, we gave up assimilation in the 1960s a decade before we even had non-western immigration. Since then, all governments have pursued a policy of integration.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackleaf View Post
    (C-l)Norway have allways supported minoritys and we allways start unions. The difference is that war on terror in the media. The result is not just hate on radical muslims, but on moderat muslims to. That is the problem. Siv Jensen can push heavy critics on the human side of muslims, but she dosn't clear away the once who generalize all muslims as one unit.
    No, Norway hasn't always treated minorities well, in fact quite the opposite. Just ask the Sami, Taters, Kvener and Rom-people. Since the 1960s however treatment of minorities has mostly been quite good. And as for hatred towards moslems in general. There surely is some Islamophobia in Norway, but in general there is little hatred towards Moslems. The only racist party in Norway; Demokratene (transl the democrats ), who are in some ways comparable to FN or BNP got a whopping 0.8 percent in the last election, and no, they are not growing.

    And as for Fremskrittspartiet. Opinion polls have often put them well over 20 percent, in fact often over 30 percent. However polls have also shown that about 18 percent of their voters agree with their stand on immigration. Most Frp-voters are happy with the current governments immigrationpolicies. The partys main source of popularity is its less taxes+increased public spending approach (which has to do with the Norwegian states extreme wealth) Don't get me wrong though, Frp is not a racist party, actually some of their politicians (albeit few) are Moslems.




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    what's the fuss about them muslims not working on religious holidays

    already happens in france and no problem at all

    don't the christians take 2 full weeks for christmas, my brother and my father wich are not christians were working these days

    like many atheists and muslim i know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post

    don't the christians take 2 full weeks for christmas, my brother and my father wich are not christians were working these days

    like many atheists and muslim i know
    No, they don't. Students and teachers get 2 weeks off. Workers get Christmas off. Usually nothing more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
    what's the fuss about them muslims not working on religious holidays
    The people they work for are forced to pay them for it.

    Don't want to work? Don't expect pay. Hell, don't even expect to keep your job.

    already happens in france and no problem at all
    The French are known appeasers.
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    It is too Late for Europe now. They are rapidly losing their culture to a culture of political Correctness. It's probably shameful to be proud of your country's heritage in many European countries right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos_Rouvelas View Post
    It's probably shameful to be proud of your country's heritage in many European countries right?
    Yes, correct. To love your nation or your culture or to be *shock! horror!* a patriot these days makes a person nothing more than a boil on Hitler's ass.

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    Funny how the Australian and Americans keep on being so worried about us, while the Euros supporting this stuff get beaten time after time in the threads around by other Euros.

    Anyway, thanks for caring.
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    we can safely say that a % of those 130 were Houthi/Iranian militants that needed to be stopped unfortunately

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