Disabling fog of war

**4th Regiment** · February 23, 2009, 08:36 AM

In old RTW I know the way how to change this annoying thing – inability to see where the settlements on the map are. It was in preferences, fog_of_war_disabled. But here I have hard times finding that. Any help? Thanks in advance

**Aranu** · February 23, 2009, 08:49 AM

type in console:
toggle_fow

**4th Regiment** · February 23, 2009, 03:04 PM

Thanks Aranu, it is helpful.

But now I can see all armies and characters...which I do not want. Can it be fixed like in RTW, so I can see only settlements and their owners but no armies, characters etc. It is like your characters have discovered that area but have moved from there...if you know what I mean

**Caesar Clivus** · February 23, 2009, 05:46 PM

Do the console command that Aranu said, but do it twice. That'll turn fog of war back on but you'll still be able to see all settlements.

**Viscule** · February 23, 2009, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Caesar Clivus

Do the console command that Aranu said, but do it twice. That'll turn fog of war back on but you'll still be able to see all settlements.

Its not really cheating when you do that right? Turn it off to see where the settlements are in the start and turn it back on?

The AI already know where everything is so..

**Caesar Clivus** · February 23, 2009, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Viscule

Its not really cheating when you do that right? Turn it off to see where the settlements are in the start and turn it back on?

The AI already know where everything is so..

I'd still class it as cheating.

**4th Regiment** · February 24, 2009, 03:51 AM

Hell no, it is not cheating, of course kings in those days knew where the major cities were located…come on…It can be pain in the ass while playing sometimes

Caesar Clivus, thanks alot

**Caesar Clivus** · February 24, 2009, 05:35 PM

King's know the locations of major settlements? Sure. Every single town, castle, and village in all of Europe and the middle-east? Not so much.

Besides, that's why spies are in the game.

**Viscule** · February 24, 2009, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Caesar Clivus

I'd still class it as cheating.

It's still on turn 1, tho. So you're not really seeing much. Just where the settlements really are.

**IsolatedPurity** · February 24, 2009, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Caesar Clivus

I'd still class it as cheating.

I disagree, Kings back then would obviously know about all troop movments/city locations back then. They always had spys filling them information so they never got caught off guard if a nation planned to go to war with them.

I never FoW on, I always have it on and it really don't give me an advantage at all.

**luciferleigh** · February 24, 2009, 05:19 PM

i get what hes saying, something like the campaign objectives, you know, where its displayed on the mini-map, where it looks like youve already explored an area, like when playing as the romans, you can see caffa on the minimap, despite the fact you havent been there yet, i mean, its not like no one knows where constantinople/paris/rome/jerusalem/(add any major city here) is

one other option is to teleport your spy to ever major city the first turn, might take a while, but youll end up with the same effects

**Caesar Clivus** · February 24, 2009, 07:47 PM

You dont have to spam spies. You just need a couple to scout out where you're going to attack next. That way you still know where enemy settlements are beforehand.

**Viscule** · February 24, 2009, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Caesar Clivus

You dont have to spam spies. You just need a couple to scout out where you're going to attack next. That way you still know where enemy settlements are beforehand.

Just doing what i do works quite well for me. Buy/trade for map information.

Best to start early.

**Caesar Clivus** · February 24, 2009, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Viscule

Just doing what i do works quite well for me. Buy/trade for map information.

And then there's also that option

**IsolatedPurity** · February 24, 2009, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by Caesar Clivus

And then there's also that option

Yeah but half of the time they want me to give them my own map information + florins, and I'm greedy so...

Originally Posted by Caesar Clivus

You dont have to spam spies. You just need a couple to scout out where you're going to attack next. That way you still know where enemy settlements are beforehand.

But in order to know all enemy movements like a real King would, you do.

**Caesar Clivus** · February 24, 2009, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by IsolatedPurity

But in order to know all enemy movements like a real King would, you do.

A real King would not have gotten precise detailed knowledge of an enemy's forces like you do in this game. Besides, you dont need to know all enemy movements, just the ones you are attacking or about to attack. Which can be accomplished with just a few spies and watchtowers.

**Deadly Rabbit** · February 25, 2009, 05:03 AM

I like it how it is. Every now and then I toggle fow just to see who owns what. I toggle it back off again and keep playing. I am with Aranu, if your spies, watchtowers and scattered merchants diplomats, etc, don't spot an incoming army, all the more fun! I love it when four stacks of Jihadi Kwarezmians turn up out of nowhere, having slipped through unguarded mountain passes.

**Protector** · February 26, 2009, 10:32 AM

Hi,

an other way which I know from SuS mod is to give the player in the early game (within first 15 years) the option to pay for it.

A pop up will ask the player after cartography is developed ....do you want to pay 5.000f for a discovery of all capitol cities ? If so you have to click on yes/no button. After you paid for it you will see from next turn on with mini map all capitol cities.

fyi
http://totalwar-zone.de/forum/thread...075#post181075
download for english version http://upit.to/file:19a02d3433/SuS_Ultimat_Englisch.exe