US soldier gives motivational speech to Iraqi police

[boofhead]

A video well-worth watching.

WARNING: Yes, soldiers do swear/curse!



This highlights the many difficulties the US has had in transferring control from the military to the Iraqis, and is also a testament to the great work they have done - I believe 2/3rds of the country (13/18 provinces) is currently in Iraqi hands (well that was the status last October).

It must be very frustrating dealing with certain elements of the police having divided or hidden loyalties or a lazy-assed attitude. There will come a point in time though when the US will leave, and these 'police' will either have to man-up and do the job, or strip off their uniforms and flee like little girls and watch their homes descend into chaos and slaughterhouses once again.

[motiv-8]

Badass speech. Who is this guy? He really grabbed the police by the balls, and if they're at all competent that will get them fired-up and moving.

If anything, calling them women will get them off their asses. That's a big deal in Arab culture.

[Gelgoog]

yea, i saw this last week and its totally true. The iraqi police alot of times are complete cowards who would rather rat out their fellow officers to the local militia, then do what they were hired to do. Before any jumps on this guy, this is what happens when you royally piss off your CO, and our troops get the same kind of treatment when it happens.

remember, its supposed to be motivational, not abusive. sometimes you need to a harsh talking to, for the message to get through.

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

Nice vid and nice new avatar

[Lord Feloric's Ambassador]

The soldier made a valiant attempt, but it seemed to be futile.

[igotballsofsteel]

Your completly brainwashed beffore US military get there Irak was not in chaos and there were no slaughterhouses .

They even had a president that was holding the country but u hanged im

[boofhead]

Your completly brainwashed beffore US military get there Irak was not in chaos and there were no slaughterhouses .

They even had a president that was holding the country but u hanged im

Whether you agree with the invasion of Iraq or not is quite irrelevant. I personally don't really think it should have happened, but no use crying over spilt milk and not much anyone can do about it. This vid deals with the situation on the ground after the invasion, the current reality, and what is being done there now in difficult circumstances.

Third option: run their local neighbourhoods as an effective mafia allied to paramilitaries and corrupt politicians. I'm guessing this one is more likely.

True. In which case all Iraqis in such neighbourhoods suffer.

[igotballsofsteel]

put yourself in there pants . i say you also flee like a girl wen u know they gonna suicide bomb your ass .

[boofhead]

put yourself in there pants . i say you also flee like a girl wen u know they gonna suicide bomb your ass .

If that's the case then why are these guys even selected to be police?

You don't see US soldiers fleeing like little girls, you see them kicking ass when they need to. Like the soldier in the vid said "I'll take 3 trucks down that road any day...." - I honestly believe he is not lying.

[igotballsofsteel]

Im sure those policeman are scared to death . If people know they work for the police they can get there family kill .

Why those guy are selected ? cause no 1 want the job and some man need the money to feed up their family im sure thats why they take the job .

I cant even put myself for 5 sec in there pants considering all that can happen to them or the people they love .

But the US military put them in that situation and yes they have to deal whit it .

[Gelgoog]

Your completly brainwashed beffore US military get there Irak was not in chaos and there were no slaughterhouses .

They even had a president that was holding the country but u hanged im

rape rooms, execution of political opposition, genocide of the kurds.....he was a real saint! whatever will we do without leadership like his.

[IrishHitman]

rape rooms, execution of political opposition, genocide of the kurds.....he was a real saint! whatever will we do without leadership like his.

Rape rooms?

This is the first I've heard of that..

[seal]

Rape rooms?

This is the first I've heard of that..

In April of 2003, my platoon got assigned to the Olympic Stadium in Baghdad for a short period of time. Trust me, there were rape rooms.

[IrishHitman]

In April of 2003, my platoon got assigned to the Olympic Stadium in Baghdad for a short period of time. Trust me, there were rape rooms.

Well, that's ed up.

[Gelgoog]

Rape rooms?

This is the first I've heard of that..

they have been pretty well established. they were big news during the invasion and hunt for saddam. His sons were especially noted for abducting women off the streets and raping them. Both of whom were mass murderers like their father.

Not this soldier, but US soldiers in general.

America has a job to do in Iraq, they can't just shove their responsibilities off because a few of them have died.

we arent shoving off responsibility, we are there at the pleasure of the iraqi govt. At some point momma bird needs to shove baby democratic iraq out of the nest. The longer we stay, the more dependent on our aid they will grow.

It's a war.
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of innocent Iraqi's have died.
The least America could do is accept the same number of casualties amongst their own ranks before cutting and running.

wait you expect us to take a hundred thousand casualties before we leave? what kind of retarded idea is that? this is hardly vietnam, we dont have iraqis trying to board the last helicopter off the US embassy, and we arent even leaving completely. We are simply drawing down on offensive operations and leaving an advisory force behind.

According to the Iraqi's themselves, their lives were better under Saddam than right now.
America still has a long way to go to repair what it has broken.

And yet most of them braved getting killed to vote in their first election in their lives. repressed peoples do tend to value their freedom, and this is what most iraqis will tell you. Sure it was "safer" under saddam, but that safety came under the bootheel of absolute tyranny, now they have to the chance to live under a democratic system where any tribe or party can rise through the ranks of power, not just the bathe party.

[Gertrudius]

they have been pretty well established. they were big news during the invasion and hunt for saddam. His sons were especially noted for abducting women off the streets and raping them. Both of whom were mass murderers like their father.

I wouldn't have wanted to be the Hussein family psychologist, that's for sure.

Take it easy,

[igotballsofsteel]

[quote=scheuch13;4516837]they have been pretty well established. they were big news during the invasion and hunt for saddam. His sons were especially noted for abducting women off the streets and raping them. Both of whom were mass murderers like their father.


This is propaganda to make people like u accept a war for oil .

Wen they fooled u whit the WOMD .

[Bovril]

It must be very frustrating dealing with certain elements of the police having divided or hidden loyalties or a lazy-assed attitude. There will come a point in time though when the US will leave, and these 'police' will either have to man-up and do the job, or strip off their uniforms and flee like little girls and watch their homes descend into chaos and slaughterhouses once again.

Third option: run their local neighbourhoods as an effective mafia allied to paramilitaries and corrupt politicians. I'm guessing this one is more likely.

[danzig]

I wonder how effective speeches like that are though given the cultural differences. I mean it works here in the US but I wonder how much influence it actually has with Iraqis.

[motiv-8]

I wonder how effective speeches like that are though given the cultural differences. I mean it works here in the US but I wonder how much influence it actually has with Iraqis.

Actually the way he spoke to the Iraqis, the terms he used, comparing them to women, is all very effective contextually. In theory I mean. Plus, military culture is military culture. You piss off the boss, you're going to hear about it. A lot of those policeman probably weren't of age or inclination to serve under the Ba'athists, but they should have at least known about it. Remember, finally, that the US has been building up a new military culture and police structure in Iraq for five years, effective strategies must have been found and implemented by now.