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    but then you would have to cut out any and all naval stuff mate, or make strat map models and make them auto resolve, but that's also quite weird...

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    No, it's just that the naval mod will de developed separately. We can first release a naval-only version of the mod and combine them later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefaneke View Post
    No, it's just that the naval mod will de developed separately. We can first release a naval-only version of the mod and combine them later.
    Woah Woah Woah wait up.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

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    Ofc... but it would be fantastic to let the people taste a bit of WWI warfare .

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefaneke View Post
    Ofc... but it would be fantastic to let the people taste a bit of WWI warfare .
    Yeah, but shouldn't we concentrate more on the land battles? I mean, naval battles don't need that many changes in comparison.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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    Cool ill allways enjoy everything a bit by bit!

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    Imo we should give a demo like release that follows the same formula as CA one battle of each to give you perspective on both land and sea..
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    a dreadnaught battle is priceless ... i can't wait !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Épaminondas The "Oblique" View Post
    a dreadnaught battle is priceless ... i can't wait !!!
    Someone mentioned music earlier - here's the perfect piece for a Dreadnought battle.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdZqQ5C7pN0

    The video shows WWII era battleships, but you get the idea!

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    that music is epic!
    would love playing naval battles with that music


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    Are you guys going to have submarines? Can you starve nations like Britain off somehow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus_54 View Post
    Are you guys going to have submarines? Can you starve nations like Britain off somehow?
    Possibly. Someone is modeling a U-Boat. I am thinking of creating a new supply system whereby goods don't flow automatically along the trade lanes - instead, they have to be physically shipped across the ocean before a profit is earned, and they can be seized or destroyed by the enemy. In real life ships couldn't just squat on trade lanes like they do in ETW. Merchants of the WWI era had to worry about submarines, mines, surface raiders, enemy dreadnoughts, and other things that might capture/destroy goods before they could reach England. The challenge is to make it interesting without being too onerous/complex.

    I am also working on a system of rewards/penalties that will use the ancillary system. DLV for Medieval 2 had a similar series of bonuses for individual generals, so it should definitely be possible to implement in ETW. After the appropriate number of victories/defeats, there will be a % chance that the reward/penalty will be incurred. If you have corrections, suggestions, or info/pix of your nation's WWI-era medals, please chip in. I have a basic idea of what French and German medals were like, but I need help with Turkey, Austria, Italy, and so on.

    As a sample, Great Britain:





    The Victoria Cross:

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    The DSO:

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    The DSC, MC, and DFC (Distinguished Flying Cross, which we won't need):

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Certificate for being Mentioned in Dispatches:

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    Last edited by iambecomelife; April 05, 2009 at 02:53 AM.

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    [quote=iambecomelife;4875627]

    The Victoria Cross:

    [spoiler]

    One comment if I may, the Victoria cross was not rewarded to ranks over Colonel if I recall correctly, it was more for the lower ranks, though if you have a general who has one on creation (Ie he earned it before attaining the rank at which they would no longer give it out), that would work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iambecomelife View Post

    The Victoria Cross:

    [spoiler]

    One comment if I may, the Victoria cross was not rewarded to ranks over Colonel if I recall correctly, it was more for the lower ranks, though if you have a general who has one on creation (Ie he earned it before attaining the rank at which they would no longer give it out), that would work.
    Thanks for the input.

    Today I thought of making the "generals" ingame actually Colonels & Majors to justify them being in units on the battlefield. I think most actual WWI generals tended to stay at HQ's behind the lines - not out of cowardice, as popular culture assumes, but because of how difficult it was to command such massive armies.

    Would anyone happen to know what the highest ranks likely to actually lead their men into combat were? I am assuming Colonels, Majors, and Captains.

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    ah very nice, we are giong to use those as ancillaries.

    and I agree, with sovereign. we could make you guys a bit hungry for more.
    Marv found out how to skin, I tried but my game keeps crashing

    so, we are getting quite close to getting units/ships done. the thing we need now... is a converter.

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    AH, I've made the trenches based on that pic.

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    Really? I'd love to see some of that work! Sound really cool

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    Ah.. it's nothing . I'm not really far with it yet but I'm gonna make some screens, as well as an update for the ship.



    Trenches are heavily WIP

    Omfg I hate it when TWC is out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefaneke View Post
    Ah.. it's nothing . I'm not really far with it yet but I'm gonna make some screens, as well as an update for the ship.



    Trenches are heavily WIP

    Omfg I hate it when TWC is out...

    Please Texture them! Or find some one good texturer to texture those textures to them!

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    Nice work Stefaneke.

    If it is needed I could be a researcher. I specialise in weaponry. PM me if needed.

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