zooming out -> no legs

[philip w.]

First of all hello and great mod.
Did use the search but coul not find anything.
While playing the teutonic order with DLV 4 PE i discovered that the legs of the teutonic foot knights are missing when zooming out. They are "standing/walking" on their chest. When zooming in evrything is alright. As far as i noticed it is only this unit. I know In barbarian invasion there is the same problem with some barbarian sword units.
Is this a known problem with DLV? Any way to fix it?
Thanks

[Raaka]

Guessing here but it might just be lod (level of detail) issue. The game switches to lower resolution 3d model when you zoom out depending on your settings. Might be that lowest resolution models have some part of their bodies removed to increase performance. Obviously this shouldn't be visible to player. Try changing the unit details setting in video settings if this changes anything.

Cheers,
'R

[Taiji]

That issue is caused by them not using the correct sprites. They are using sprites designed for use by cavalry units and since the horse is a seperate sprite their legs disappear.

To be honest I thought I'd fixed this issue for Teutons when I fixed it for the other orders, I must have missed them. I'll get it sorted for the next BB update.

Thanks for raising it

[philip w.]

well same for the other orders, did you see that imeant dlv 4.0 PE?
An if it is fixed in 6.0 is there a way to use it in 4.0 PE?

[Taiji]

Oops no I didn't see that. Yes, it would be easy for you to fix it yourself.

Just download my BB stuff and compare the entries in battle_models.modeldb with the ones in DLV4, it will be obvious (sprites have a .spr filename extension).

[philip w.]

sorry and do i have to just replace it/copy this over?
Thats bb for the teutonic knights f0r example

27 dismounted_teutonic_knights
1 4
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/dismounted_feudal_knights_lod0.mesh 121
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/dismounted_feudal_knights_lod1.mesh 900
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/dismounted_feudal_knights_lod2.mesh 2500
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/dismounted_feudal_knights_lod3.mesh 6400
2
7 teutons
74 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/en_lmail_hmail_teutonic.texture
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_teutonic_normal.texture
62 unit_sprites/teutonic_order_Dismounted_Ritterbruder_sprite.spr
3 hre
74 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/en_lmail_hmail_teutonic.texture
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_teutonic_normal.texture
62 unit_sprites/teutonic_order_Dismounted_Ritterbruder_sprite.spr
2
7 teutons
61 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_teutonic_diff.texture
57 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_merc_norm.texture 0
3 hre
61 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_teutonic_diff.texture
57 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_merc_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
14 MTW2_Swordsman 0
2
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
14 fs_test_shield 0
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
31 dismounted_teutonic_knights_ug1
1 3
74 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_feudal_knights_ug1_lod0.mesh 121
74 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_feudal_knights_ug1_lod1.mesh 1225
74 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_feudal_knights_ug1_lod2.mesh 6400
2
7 teutons
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_en_pplate_teutonicknight.texture
88 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_en_pplate_teutonicknight_normal.texture
66 unit_sprites/teutonic_order_Dismounted_Ritterbruder_ug1_sprite.spr
3 hre
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_en_pplate_teutonicknight.texture
88 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_en_pplate_teutonicknight_normal.texture
66 unit_sprites/teutonic_order_Dismounted_Ritterbruder_ug1_sprite.spr
2
7 teutons
61 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_teutonic_diff.texture
57 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_merc_norm.texture 0
3 hre
61 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_teutonic_diff.texture
57 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_merc_norm.texture 0
1
4 none
14 MTW2_Swordsman 0
2
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
14 fs_test_shield 0
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
31 dismounted_teutonic_knights_ug2
1 3
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_broken_lances_lod0.mesh 121
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_broken_lances_lod1.mesh 1225
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_broken_lances_lod2.mesh 6400
2
7 teutons
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_en_pplate_teutonicknight.texture
88 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_en_pplate_teutonicknight_normal.texture
66 unit_sprites/teutonic_order_Dismounted_Ritterbruder_ug1_sprite.spr
3 hre
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_en_pplate_teutonicknight.texture
88 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_en_pplate_teutonicknight_normal.texture
66 unit_sprites/teutonic_order_Dismounted_Ritterbruder_ug1_sprite.spr
2
7 teutons
61 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_teutonic_diff.texture
57 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_merc_norm.texture 0
3 hre
61 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_teutonic_diff.texture
57 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_merc_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
14 MTW2_Swordsman 0


and this 4.0 now just replace the spr stuff?

27 dismounted_teutonic_knights
1 4
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/dismounted_feudal_knights_lod0.mesh 121
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/dismounted_feudal_knights_lod1.mesh 900
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/dismounted_feudal_knights_lod2.mesh 2500
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/dismounted_feudal_knights_lod3.mesh 6400
1
7 teutons
74 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/en_lmail_hmail_teutonic.texture
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_teutonic_normal.texture
44 unit_sprites/hre_Teutonic_Knights_sprite.spr
1
7 teutons
61 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_teutonic_diff.texture
57 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_merc_norm.texture 0
1
4 None 14 MTW2_Slow_Mace 0
2
17 MTW2_Mace_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
0 16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
31 dismounted_teutonic_knights_ug1
1 3
74 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_feudal_knights_ug1_lod0.mesh 121
74 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_feudal_knights_ug1_lod1.mesh 1225
74 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_feudal_knights_ug1_lod2.mesh 6400
1
7 teutons
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_en_pplate_teutonicknight.texture
88 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_en_pplate_teutonicknight_normal.texture
44 unit_sprites/hre_NE_Bodyguard_ug1_sprite.spr
1
7 teutons
61 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_teutonic_diff.texture
57 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_merc_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
14 MTW2_Slow_Mace 0
2
17 MTW2_Mace_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
0 16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
31 dismounted_teutonic_knights_ug2
1 3
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_broken_lances_lod0.mesh 121
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_broken_lances_lod1.mesh 1225
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_broken_lances_lod2.mesh 6400
1
7 teutons
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_en_pplate_teutonicknight.texture
88 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_en_pplate_teutonicknight_normal.texture
45 unit_sprites/hre_NE_Late_Bodyguard_sprite.spr
1
7 teutons
61 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_teutonic_diff.texture
57 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_merc_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
14 MTW2_Slow_Mace 0
2
17 MTW2_Mace_Primary 14 fs_test_shield 0
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

sorry but i have no idea of this stuff and thanks for help

[Taiji]

Looks like it wouldn't work, you'd have to find other sprites if you don't have kingdoms.

This is the incorrect line: "45 unit_sprites/hre_NE_Late_Bodyguard_sprite.spr" you can see it's for cavalry so you need to change it to an infantry sprite. Just pick one with similar colours to replace it with.

[philip w.]

I tried, did not work, wanted to replace it with the dismounted feudal knights, but if changing
45 unit_sprites/hre_NE_Late_Bodyguard_sprite.spr with
53 unit_sprites/hre_Dismounted_Feudal_Knights_sprite.spr
no effect
if i let the 45 stay and copy in 45 unit_sprites/hre_Dismounted_Feudal_Knights_sprite.spr
the game does not work/start
and what about the 44? is there a change needed?
44 unit_sprites/hre_NE_Bodyguard_ug1_sprite.spr
if i put in this
57 unit_sprites/hre_Dismounted_Feudal_Knights_ug1_sprite.spr

same as above
tried both or only one change
i have no idea wats wrong :hmmm:
any idea?
An again thanks for help
by the way for modding/pc idiots like me whats ug1 and ug2 for?

[Taiji]

'ug1' stands for 'armor upgrade 1', you might have only set the sprite for the 1st and 2nd armor upgrades.

Did you change this one too?: 44 unit_sprites/hre_Teutonic_Knights_sprite.spr