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    This is an interesting phenomenon I'm witnessing at first hand and I was wondering if anyone could shed any light on it.

    My personal experience has been of headaches that you could set an alarm clock by though the days are random. You get some indication that it is about to start and sometimes very quickly you get a blinding pain in one side of the brain, eye that spreads down into the jaw.
    The side of the face where the pain is, turns bright red as well as the eye.

    Here is what Wikipedia has to say about them.

    A lovely nickname is suicide headaches, supposedly the worst pain you can experience even after child birth. I suspect they could be right though I will probably never be able to compare the two

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    Cluster headache, nicknamed "suicide headache", is a neurological disease that involves, as its most prominent feature, an immense degree of pain. "Cluster" refers to the tendency of these headaches to occur periodically, with active periods interrupted by spontaneous remissions. The cause of the disease is currently unknown. It affects approximately 0.1% of the population, and men are more commonly affected more than women.

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    1 Signs and symptoms
    1.1 Pain
    1.2 Other symptoms
    1.3 Cyclical recurrence and regular timing
    1.3.1 Episodic or chronic
    2 Other names
    3 Prevalence
    4 Pathophysiology
    4.1 Hypothalamus
    4.2 Genetics
    4.3 Triggers
    4.4 Smoking
    5 Treatment
    5.1 Abortive treatment
    5.2 Prophylactic treatment
    5.3 Non-established and research approaches
    6 Other types of headache
    7 See also
    8 References
    9 External links



    [edit] Signs and symptoms
    Cluster headaches are excruciating unilateral headaches,[1] of extreme intensity.[2] The duration of the common attack ranges from as short as 15 minutes to three hours or more. The onset of an attack is rapid, and most often without the preliminary signs that are characteristic of a migraine. However, some sufferers report preliminary sensations of pain in the general area of attack, often referred to as "shadows", that may warn them an attack is imminent. Though the headaches are almost exclusively unilateral, there are many documented as cases of "side-shifting" between cluster periods, or, even rarer, simultaneously (within the same cluster period) bilateral headache. They are often initially mistaken for brain tumors and multiple sclerosis until patients are treated with corticosteroids and then imaged. Trigeminal neuralgia can also bring on headaches with similar qualities.


    [edit] Pain
    The degree of pain involved in cluster headaches is markedly greater than in other headache conditions, including severe migraines, and experts believe that it may be the most severe pain known to medical science. It has been described by female patients as being more severe than childbirth.[3] Dr. Peter Goadsby, Professor of Clinical Neurology at University College, London, a leading researcher on the condition has commented, “Cluster headache is probably the worst pain that humans experience. I know that’s quite a strong remark to make, but if you ask a cluster headache patient if they’ve had a worse experience, they’ll universally say they haven’t. Women with cluster headache will tell you that an attack is worse than giving birth. So you can imagine that these people give birth without anesthetic once or twice a day, for six, eight or ten weeks at a time, and then have a break. It’s just awful.” [1] The pain is lancinating or boring in quality, and is located behind the eye (periorbital) or in the temple, sometimes radiating to the neck or shoulder. Analogies frequently used to describe the pain are a red-hot poker inserted into the eye, or a spike penetrating from the top of the head, behind one eye, radiating down to the neck, or sometimes having a leg amputated without any anaesthetic. The condition was originally named Horton's Neuralgia after Dr. B.T Horton, who postulated the first theory as to their pathogenesis. His original paper describes the severity of the headaches as being able to take normal men and force them to suicide. Indeed, cluster headaches are also known by the nickname "suicide headaches".

    From Horton's 1939 original paper on cluster headache:

    Our patients were disabled by the disorder and suffered from bouts of pain from two to twenty times a week. They had found no relief from the usual methods of treatment. Their pain was so severe that several of them had to be constantly watched for fear of suicide. Most of them were willing to submit to any operation which might bring relief.


    [edit] Other symptoms
    The cardinal symptoms of the cluster headache attack are ptosis (drooping eyelid), conjunctival injection (redness of the conjunctiva - the covering of the eyeball), lacrimation (tearing), rhinorrhea (runny nose), and, less commonly, facial blushing, swelling, or sweating. These features are known as the autonomic symptoms. The attack is also associated with restlessness, the sufferer often pacing the room or rocking back and forth. Less frequently, he or she will have an aversion to bright lights and loud noise during the attack. Nausea is sometimes accompanied with a cluster headache, though it has been reported. The neck is often stiff or tender in the aftermath of a headache, with jaw or tooth pain sometimes present. Some sufferers report feeling as though their nose is stopped up and that they are unable to breathe out of one of their nostrils.


    [edit] Cyclical recurrence and regular timing
    Cluster headaches are occasionally referred to as "alarm clock headaches", because of its ability to wake a person from sleep, and because of the regularity of its timing in that both the individual attacks and the clusters themselves can have a metronomic regularity; attacks striking at a precise time of day each morning or night is typical, even precisely at the same time a week later. This has prompted researchers to speculate an involvement of the brain's "biological clock" or circadian rhythm.


    [edit] Episodic or chronic
    In episodic cluster headache, these attacks occur once or more daily, often at the same times each day, for a period of several weeks, followed by a headache-free period lasting weeks, months, or years. Approximately 10–15% of cluster headache sufferers are chronic; they can experience multiple headaches every day for years.

    Cluster headaches occurring in two or more cluster periods lasting from 7 to 365 days with a pain-free remission of one month or longer between the clusters are considered episodic. If the attacks occur for more than a year without a pain-free remission of at least one month, the condition is considered chronic.[4] Chronic clusters run continuously without any "remission" periods between cycles. The condition may change from chronic to episodic and from episodic to chronic. Remission periods lasting for decades before the resumption of clusters have been known to occur.


    [edit] Other names
    The first complete description of cluster headache was given by the London neurologist Wilfred Harris in 1926. He named the disease Migrainous neuralgia.[5][6][7]

    Cluster headaches have been called by several other names in the past including Erythroprosopalgia of Bing, Ciliary neuralgia, Erythromelagia of the head, Horton's headache (named after Bayard T. Horton, an American neurologist), Histaminic cephalalgia, Petrosal neuralgia, sphenopalatine neuralgia, Vidian neuralgia, Sluder's neuralgia, and Hemicrania angioparalyticia.[8] Sluder's neuralgia (syndrome) and cluster pain can often be temporarily stopped with nasal lidocaine drops.[9][10]

    Robert Bing (1878–1956)
    Bayard T. Horton (1895–1980)



    [edit] Prevalence
    While migraines are diagnosed more often in women, cluster headaches are diagnosed more often in men. The male-to-female ratio in cluster headache ranges from 4:1 to 7:1. It primarily occurs between the ages of 20 to 50 years. [2]This gap between the sexes has narrowed over the past few decades, and it is not clear whether cluster headaches are becoming more frequent in women, or whether they are merely being better diagnosed. Limited epidemiological studies have suggested prevalence rates of between 56 and 326 people per 100,000.[11] Latitude plays a role in the occurrence of cluster headaches, which are more common as one moves away from the equator towards the poles.


    [edit] Pathophysiology

    Gray's FIG. 778– Trigeminal nerve is shown in yellow.
    Gray's FIG. 777– Detailed view of ophthalmic nerve, shown in yellow.
    Cluster headaches are classified as vascular headaches. The intense pain is caused by the dilation of blood vessels which creates pressure on the trigeminal nerve. While this process is the immediate cause of the pain, the etiology (underlying cause or causes) is not fully understood.


    [edit] Hypothalamus
    Among the most widely accepted theories is that cluster headaches are due to an abnormality in the hypothalamus; Dr Goadsby, an Australian specialist in the disease has developed this theory. This can explain why cluster headaches frequently strike around the same time each day, and during a particular season, since one of the functions the hypothalamus performs is regulation of the biological clock. Metabolic abnormalities have also been reported in patients.

    The hypothalamus is responsive to light—daylength and photoperiod; olfactory stimuli, including pheromones; steroids, including sex steroids and corticosteroids; neurally transmitted information arising in particular from the heart, the stomach, and the reproductive system; autonomic inputs; blood-borne stimuli, including leptin, ghrelin, angiotensin, insulin, pituitary hormones, cytokines, blood plasma concentrations of glucose and osmolarity, etc.; and stress. These particular sensitivities may underlay the causes, triggers, and methods of treatment of cluster headache.


    Anyone else ever experienced them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seneca View Post
    This is an interesting phenomenon I'm witnessing at first hand and I was wondering if anyone could shed any light on it.

    My personal experience has been of headaches that you could set an alarm clock by though the days are random. You get some indication that it is about to start and sometimes very quickly you get a blinding pain in one side of the brain, eye that spreads down into the jaw.
    The side of the face where the pain is, turns bright red as well as the eye.

    Here is what Wikipedia has to say about them.

    A lovely nickname is suicide headaches, supposedly the worst pain you can experience even after child birth. I suspect they could be right though I will probably never be able to compare the two

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    Anyone else ever experienced them?
    No but I have experienced many a bad headache....... does this headache make you vomit and leave you physically exhausted? Mine do... Perhaps it is something similar although my eyes get twitchy instead of like that...


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    These do not come with the usual nausea that would be associated with migraines though I do experience the common symptom of cluster headaches which to pace up and down and feel like batting your head off a wall to make it go away. If one gets into its full intensity then I do fall asleep more often than not afterwards.

    Something which I cannot emphasise enough is these headaches are completely different to a normal headache. The pain and facial blush is entirely localised to a very specific hemisphere of the head.

    Apparently though painkillers can't help this an oxygen and specific breathing apparatus can at the initial stages of the headache, prevent it reaching full intensity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seneca View Post
    These do not come with the usual nausea that would be associated with migraines though I do experience the common symptom of cluster headaches which to pace up and down and feel like batting your head off a wall to make it go away. If one gets into its full intensity then I do fall asleep more often than not afterwards.

    Something which I cannot emphasise enough is these headaches are completely different to a normal headache. The pain and facial blush is entirely localised to a very specific hemisphere of the head.

    Apparently though painkillers can't help this an oxygen and specific breathing apparatus can at the initial stages of the headache, prevent it reaching full intensity.
    Very strange...maybe you should try Marijuana?


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    Nothing helps it seems, I've never got how marijuanna is a painkiller, maybe it might help as a relaxant but it doesn't seem to work on me. I've always found Ibruprofen has a very powerful effect on me and if caught early enough with a strong enough dose it seems to do something. Though it didn't tonight, I had a 40 minute episode followed by sleep.


    Intense exercise and sex seem to disrupt their scheduled visits for some reason. According to wikipedia the rapid alteration in brain chemistry from the excitatory releases helps. I've noticed that it has some effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seneca View Post
    Nothing helps it seems, I've never got how marijuanna is a painkiller, maybe it might help as a relaxant but it doesn't seem to work on me. I've always found Ibruprofen has a very powerful effect on me and if caught early enough with a strong enough dose it seems to do something. Though it didn't tonight, I had a 40 minute episode followed by sleep.


    Intense exercise and sex seem to disrupt their scheduled visits for some reason. According to wikipedia the rapid alteration in brain chemistry from the excitatory releases helps. I've noticed that it has some effect.
    Marijuana isn't really a painkiller..The Euphoria instead stops the brain from feeling the pain properly..


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    I see well I'll try anything. An oxygen tank helps apparently though I'd have to get one prescribed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seneca View Post
    I see well I'll try anything. An oxygen tank helps apparently though I'd have to get one prescribed.
    I don't see how an Oxygen tank could help with something like this...is it caused by a lack of Oxygen to those tissues or does the Oxygen act similar to weed and stop the brain from getting the pain signals?


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    That's terrible. I get migranes but they're not like that, though I did have a Spinal headache once which was easily the most painful thing I've ever had. I was on my back for a week with that.

    Have you seen a neurologist, Seneca? They may be able to help.
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    I know some headaches are caused by constricted blood vessels, so the oxygen tank would increase your oxygen saturation and might help counteract it. That is if that is what causes cluster headaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter View Post
    I know some headaches are caused by constricted blood vessels, so the oxygen tank would increase your oxygen saturation and might help counteract it. That is if that is what causes cluster headaches.
    You are probably right...I would recommend that if it is easily obtainable...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter View Post
    That's terrible. I get migranes but they're not like that, though I did have a Spinal headache once which was easily the most painful thing I've ever had. I was on my back for a week with that.

    Have you seen a neurologist, Seneca? They may be able to help.
    Pretty easily diagnosed apparently. The only way I'll get on an MRI is if it presents with something to worry my Doctor though I've got follow up appointments booked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slurricane View Post
    I don't see how an Oxygen tank could help with something like this...is it caused by a lack of Oxygen to those tissues or does the Oxygen act similar to weed and stop the brain from getting the pain signals?
    Its something to do with the hyppocampus or something, I don't really know all that much about neurology but apparently it directly effects the parts suspected of causing it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winter View Post
    I know some headaches are caused by constricted blood vessels, so the oxygen tank would increase your oxygen saturation and might help counteract it. That is if that is what causes cluster headaches.
    It is counted as being vascular but the exact cause isn't known.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seneca View Post
    Pretty easily diagnosed apparently. The only way I'll get on an MRI is if it presents with something to worry my Doctor though I've got follow up appointments booked.



    Its something to do with the hyppocampus or something, I don't really know all that much about neurology but apparently it directly effects the parts suspected of causing it.



    It is counted as being vascular but the exact cause isn't known.

    So its kinda like Fibermialga..spelling?

    there is an interesting article somewhere about why marijuana is better for pain than morphine..
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    Here's a crazy idea - have you tried eating something very hot (as in habanero peppers, some kind of crazy hot sauce etc.)? A few days ago I tried some really hot sauce on an empty stomach, and while it hurt my digestive track like hell, it also caused a massive release of endorphines into my system. I was having a headache at the time (nothing like yours though) and the endorphines did away with it very quickly; heck, the endorphine rush made me feel drunk! I suppose it could be worth a try.
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    If you know at what time the attacks are going to occur, why not knock yourself unconcious before they occur?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visitor13 View Post
    Here's a crazy idea - have you tried eating something very hot (as in habanero peppers, some kind of crazy hot sauce etc.)? A few days ago I tried some really hot sauce on an empty stomach, and while it hurt my digestive track like hell, it also caused a massive release of endorphines into my system. I was having a headache at the time (nothing like yours though) and the endorphines did away with it very quickly; heck, the endorphine rush made me feel drunk! I suppose it could be worth a try.
    I love Habaneros...I am afraid that they don't really burn me any more or I would do that when I get migraines...


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