Osama Bin Laden's official FBI profile

[Tajir]

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

I re-post this link because the families of 3,000 Americans would like to know what happened to their loved ones.

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Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world.

Why isn't 9/11 mentioned in that profile?

Last time I checked his profile, it was updated on November 2001, and still to this day, no hard proof that OBL is really the man we want. To this day, he's still a suspect and there seems to be no method of proving if he really did do it. As far as his videos go, he always praises the attacks but has never taken responsibility.

[danzig]

Because there is no indictment or offical charges filed against him for the attack since basically 9/11 stuff was placed well out of their hands, as far as the FBI procedures go he is a suspect hence the "suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world".

And actually he has taken blame for the attacks atleast twice including http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/..._10-29-04.html

Of course to tinfoil hat wearers its all a CIA created tape.....

[Admiral Piett]

Because there is no indictment or offical charges filed against him for the attack since basically 9/11 stuff was placed well out of their hands, as far as the FBI procedures go he is a suspect hence the "suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world".

And actually he has taken blame for the attacks atleast twice including http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/..._10-29-04.html

Of course to tinfoil hat wearers its all a CIA created tape.....

Well, technically, the CIA did train those men.

[danzig]

Well, technically, the CIA did train those men.

A far too commonly held belief that is more myth then truth. http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapc...ers/index.html

For reference Bergen is one of the only westerns to actually interview/meet Bin Laden.

http://www.rollingstone.com/blogs/ca...-bin-laden.php
Charlie Wilson himself.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/988285/posts

By all accounts Bin Laden wasnt even on the CIA radar until after the sovets were driven out, he had his own money etc.

[Tajir]

Because there is no indictment or offical charges filed against him for the attack since basically 9/11 stuff was placed well out of their hands, as far as the FBI procedures go he is a suspect hence the "suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world".

May I ask how you know all of this?

And actually he has taken blame for the attacks atleast twice including http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/..._10-29-04.html

You posted a link that doesn't contain the video.

And you say he's claimed the attacks "at least twice" more? Are you also making this up?

Of course to tinfoil hat wearers its all a CIA created tape.....

Let me see, you don't speak Arabic, you fail to post the video you speak of, and you continue to repeat your old "tin-foil-hat" line that you always pull when your nose starts to expand.

Well, let me help you there. Here's the complete Arabic translation of his 2004 video, find me the part where he says "I bombed the towers" because all I see is a vague beat-around-the-bush victory speech.

http://english.aljazeera.net/archive...336457223.html

[danzig]

May I ask how you know all of this?

Because it was what the FBI said when asked about it? Google for it, the investigation as it were was basically beyond the FBI since it become an issue of national security due to the nature of the attacks.

You posted a link that doesn't contain the video.

If you took 2 seconds to look yourself, correct make that 5 mins cause you'd have to wade thru the tin foil hate cluster of OMG CHENEY DID IT links you'd find it. Of course judging by the stuff you say below why do I think you'll somehow question it being legit. The audio tape, the video and the transcripts are out there, I suggest you open google and look for then. If I thought it would be any use to continue this discussion with you I would dig them up again but quite frankly its not worth my time.

And you say he's claimed the attacks "at least twice" more? Are you also making this up?

YES IM MAKING IT UP...you caught me. Let me ask you do you even *follow* the news?

Let me see, you don't speak Arabic, you fail to post the video you speak of, and you continue to repeat your old "tin-foil-hat" line that you always pull when your nose starts to expand.

I dont speak arabic matters how exactly? Do you speak Italian or French? I do. I didnt "fail" to post the video I posted a link of the news article of it as I said if you are so desperate for audio or video go dig it up yourself. Quite frankly Im sick of fools comings on here every few months with their "new revelations" which often are nothing but rehashed crap that has been utterly and completely crushed by the more sane members of the mudpit in the past. You dont like it then just click ignore for my name but dont sit there and try and flip it that Im the irrational one here. You asked a question, I answered Im sooooo very sorry if the answer doesnt fit into your world view but reality has a habit of crushing ones fantasies.

[bushbush]

i love the "SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ARMED AND DANGEROUS" at the end.

lol

[danzig]

Hehe yeah its funny especially for him, like someone is going to stroll across him one day that "armed and dangerous" would matter

[Каие]

Hehe yeah its funny especially for him, like someone is going to stroll across him one day that "armed and dangerous" would matter

It's funnier because it's not true. Osama Bin Laden is, and has always been, a coward. In Afghanistan against the Soviets he put himself well out of the action, the only reason we know who he is is because he got 'lucky' and the Russians came his way thinking nothing was there, cue 'heroic victory'.

He did everythign else, not because he was brave and had balls to take everyone on, but because he was a coward. After 9/11 he **** bricks trying to deny everything and assure himself ''they had no proof, they can't try him without. They won't invade, no way.'' His 'bravery' was all a unwanted result of his supreme cowardice.

Armed and dangerous my arse.

[mongrel]

Armed and dangerous my arse.

Worth repeating in a Scouse accent.

[Viking Prince]

This was specificly covered in another horrible thread. I am too lazy to dig it out.

Short answer -- Danzig is correct.

[waraelm]

your absoulty right bin-laden and his scumbag friends are always preachnig to vunrable and mentaly ill people to blow them selves for the glory of god (last time i cheacked god said that killing was bad) beacuse they dont have the balls to do it themselves.

[Каие]

It's bad PR to admit such a thing. Like backing Saddam's genocidal rampage in Iran.

[danzig]

It's bad PR to admit such a thing. Like backing Saddam's genocidal rampage in Iran.

True enough but it is also bad pr to admit to such a thing that isnt true either. Someone like Bergen has nothing to gain by saying such things and Wilson is so old now neither does he. There really is no proof to suggest the CIA did, its just what some people believe based on (as you yourself have done here) past action of CIA. Being to blame for one thing doesnt automatically mean guilty of something else.

Even if the CIA *did*, it had no way of knowing what someone like Bin Laden would go on to become. Hell Im sure Hitler's ww1 commanders when *doh* come 1939.

[Quadratus]

I hope they catch that mother er, torture him and shot him.

[Каие]

I hope they catch that mother er, torture him and shot him.

Now, now. We are civilised.

Also, Bin Laden gained fame due to showing some bravery against the Russians.

By accident.

Yeah I dont know why people just keep parroting this stuff, I mean christ Taliban didnt even exist at the time but yet time and time again you see the it being said.

I'm sure the Taliban popped out of Pakistan, from refugees backed by Pakistan.

True enough but it is also bad pr to admit to such a thing that isnt true either. Someone like Bergen has nothing to gain by saying such things and Wilson is so old now neither does he. There really is no proof to suggest the CIA did, its just what some people believe based on (as you yourself have done here) past action of CIA. Being to blame for one thing doesnt automatically mean guilty of something else.

I'm just saying when people talked about Saddam in the run up to 2003, everyone tried to twist things by saying the US had never did anything to supply Saddam in any way, when we know the US did, naturally such a thing but have been done secretly and under the radar...meaning there is a possibility the CIA can hide information.

but I accept what you said above, Bin Laden was rich as hell backed by all kinds of Muslims, it was a unity thing. True enough as you say below.

Even if the CIA *did*, it had no way of knowing what someone like Bin Laden would go on to become. Hell Im sure Hitler's ww1 commanders when *doh* come 1939.

We did have no idea, however I will point out one thing. Whoever came up with the Idea that fanatical Islamism was a good counter to communism, was a plain fool. It's no secret we encouraged the Mujahideen culture to extremes.

[Quadratus]

Now, now. We are civilised.

What do you think they'd if they captured a high ranking US official? I don't think they'd be Mr. Nice guy and drop him in a camp or whatnot.

They'd put a bullet in his head or behead him on camera recording.

[Каие]

What do you think they'd if they captured a high ranking US official? I don't think they'd be Mr. Nice guy and drop him in a camp or whatnot.

They'd put a bullet in his head or behead him on camera recording.

As I said, WE are civilised. Did we gas the Nazis and bake them?

[Farnan]

Bin Laden's group was not trained by the CIA. A too commonly held myth, like those saying the Taliban fought the Russians.

Also, Bin Laden gained fame due to showing some bravery against the Russians.

[danzig]

Bin Laden's group was not trained by the CIA. A too commonly held myth, like those saying the Taliban fought the Russians.

Also, Bin Laden gained fame due to showing some bravery against the Russians.

Yeah I dont know why people just keep parroting this stuff, I mean christ Taliban didnt even exist at the time but yet time and time again you see the it being said.