Tell us your view and what country your from (just wanna see how America stacks up to the rest of the world)
I do. Live in America. Everytime I see a video of 9/11 it reminds me why we're there and what we're fighting for.
Yes, I believe in fighting this war. I live in America
Yes, I believe in fighting this war. I don't Live in America
No, we shouldn't be there and need to leave. I live in America
No, we shouldn't be there and need to leave. I don't live in America
Yeah, and when the Red Army marched on Berlin in 1945 they made a mistake, they were looking for Vienna.
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A sloppy way to make my point, but if you don't get it you don't deserve a sparkly-clean point anyways.
EDIT: Unless you were making a different point entirely, in which case I don't care because the only other likely point you could be making is even more idiotic.
The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State. - James Madison
That was a retarded way to go about it then. As far as I know, the taliban aren't the Red Army, nor do they have a stake in going to Vienna, unless they'd like to see their italian women dressed in burkhas to please some sick fetishes and desires.
EDIT: Unless you were making a different point entirely, in which case I don't care because the only other likely point you could be making is even more idiotic.
Wait until that hangover passes, then try again.
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The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State. - James Madison
I do. And as long as we're Osama's ass I'll continue to support it.
OP: You have good points, that's the same reason why I support it, those bastards who killed innocent people on 9/11.
So if an Italian man that lived in America blew up the Eiffel Tower and was supported and equipped by the American government than Italians destroyed it? The Taliban equipped them, supported them, and took responsibility for the attack. The last one is all I need to invade their country.
lolYeah, and when the Red Army marched on Berlin in 1945 they made a mistake, they were looking for Vienna.
no, we shouldnt even be there
it aint just the yanks in there y'know
I'm American and yes, I support military operations there. Did a tour myself and have some friends over there still.
I'm not speaking for anyone other than myself, but in my honest opinion, nobody trusts Americans or their intentions anymore. There used to be a time when we were viewed as saviors and had nothing but good intentions when we did cowboy-up and went to war. Now, people mostly believe we have alterior motives like oil, money, revenge, or to destroy Islam. Honestly, I don't know. What I do know, is that the men and women that volunteered to join the military and were sent there, for the most part, have nothing but the best of intentions in mind... But to answer your question, the Afghans are not willing to change their ways or views to progress themselves as a people, foreign influences, political redtape and the genuine distrust of Americans is what is hampering, and has hampered, the war effort.
Good Ol' Fort Benning. Make sure to hydrate bro, it's gonna hot down there. Don't need to be falling out of ranks![]()
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Then we need to reduce the collateral damage by any means necessary. The airstrikes that are killing civilians surely do not aid our war effort? Don't our special forces handle the high-profile assasinations and removal of taliban leaders, and don't we control the administrational capital of afghanistan? What is preventing us from declaring victory in there by now?
The surge that has reduced the violence in Iraq is what I think is now needed here. But initialy, this is going to see a rise in US casualties.
Afghanistan turned into an ugly situation. And I don't see its regional partners helping us one bit here. Especially with the pact pakistan made with them recently.
And your the type who most likely wouldn't give a damn whether they'd shoot up women children and innocents. As long as we get the job done, right? Get aing clue here, rambo. We didn't get attacked by the taliban. Osama or his cadre didn't personally come here and blow themselves up. It was the independent Saudi terrorist cells who did it with their funding. So i propose we fight fire with fire. Make up our own squad of terrorists to hurt the taliban in their own backyard. Whats wrong with sparing american lives and turning our enemies against each other?
ARMY= Aint Ready for Marines Yet. I'm shipping off to Parris Island late May, I'm enlisted, got my MOS, and perfectly satisfied in serving my country any way I can. While preserving the lives of my people in the event of a conflict. I'll probably be thinking before firing, as I hope to god you know how to do the same. I wouldn't want you pulling a Pat Tillman on me now!![]()
We are there, We have made enemies, We need to make sure that when we leave those enemies are no longer there. Plain and simple; There's no Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda about it.
Ok, then explain to me why exactly afghani civilians need to suffer for the mistakes of the taliban. And explain to me further why we haven't caught osama yet if we're so hellbent on catching him. All I see is another excuse to wave the flag and march more people into a slaughterhouse while letting the real villains escape with maniacal bouts of laughter as they gleefully watch across the border from Pakistan, where supposedly Osama is now hiding.
That pride and stupidity are both inherited and learned traits? No, i actually have all the data I need to prove that hypothesis now, thx alot.
Because they were ruled by the Taliban. The best way to kill the Taliban was to go to Afghanistan, because that's where the Taliban were.
Why would we know?And explain to me further why we haven't caught osama yet if we're so hellbent on catching him.
Rulers of a foreign country directly participate in killing American citizens and you see that as an "excuse" to go to war?All I see is another excuse to wave the flag and march more people into a slaughterhouse while letting the real villains escape with maniacal bouts of laughter as they gleefully watch across the border from Pakistan, where supposedly Osama is now hiding.
You're Ron Paul, aren't you?
The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State. - James Madison