Russian Journalist Assassinated - Assassins Deemed "Innocent" in Russian Court - has anaything changed?

[Romano-Dacis]

http://english.hotnews.ro/stiri-regi...d-innocent.htm

A Russian Court decided on Thursday that the three men accused of killing the human rights journalist Anna Politkovskaya were innocent, Reuters informs. The journalist, reporting on Chechnya and denouncing human rights breaking, was killed in Moscow on October 7, 2006.

All three suspects were Chechens - former policeman Sergey Kadzhikurbanov, Djabrail Machmudov and Ibrahim Machmudov.

Anna Politkovskaya, renowned for her acid criticism against president Putin's regime, was shot to death in her building's elevator, the same day Putin celebrated his birthday.

Truly outstanding free press they have there in Russia. What is the life expectancy for Russian journalists, 35 years?

[Da Skinna]

Awful. Just awful. The only journalists Putin keeps alive are the ones already living in the Kremlin.

The rest he lets die.

[YuriVII]

To note, even the Politkovskaja family did not believe these men to be guilty. I want blood more than anyone for this crime, but if they are actually innocent then they are innocent. The man who is suspected of pulling the trigger is still on the run from the authorities. All in all it sucks and I am hoping this murder gets solved and the criminals are brought to justice. Even if Politkovskaja was a stupid, libelous, and dishonest journalist, she still deserves justice.

[Holger Danske]

Try harder.
If the suspect had been a lone gun with no affiliations to anyone significant then one should assume that the competent law enforcement would have caught him/her long ago. Case is that they haven't! Or at least they haven't put the person to justice.

Furthermore there must be a reason for why Russia is ranking as low as it does on numerous independent list and surveys over the freedom of journalism: Besides the boring, unintellectual, and overused argument of western propaganda.

[Babur]

yuh this is awful and Nikitn said this in another thread:

Yeah, Putin IS a great politician, and I DO wish him good health.

Do you disagree?

[Heathen Hammer]

Were those assassins Chechen? That might explain alot, because Politkovskaya was involved with Chechen mob and they probably killed her as a witness or something.

[Romano-Dacis]

Were those assassins Chechen? That might explain alot, because Politkovskaya was involved with Chechen mob and they probably killed her as a witness or something.

One of them was a former policeman so your explanation seems inconsistent. Now, I'm from Romania so I guess I should understand about corruption and police doing shady business, but you really think the stars align every time and knock off another critic of Putin?

[Heathen Hammer]

One of them was a former policeman so your explanation seems inconsistent. Now, I'm from Romania so I guess I should understand about corruption and police doing shady business, but you really think the stars align every time and knock off another critic of Putin?

There are too many critics of Putin in Russia, most of which become famous only after they die. Also mob could just hire an ex policeman to do the job, since many of them in 1990s became paid assassins.

[Panzerbear]

a sad day for Russia... the private defense attorneys showed their true professionalism, while the state prosecutor was unable to show that these guys were guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt. I have no ing clue what are they going to do next about this case... our court system is a joke.

[Romano-Dacis]

Romano-Dacis, your usual trolling is very inappropriate in this case.

Oh yes, how very inappropriate that I see the rising body-count of critic journalists in Russia and yet the best you nationalists ever say is "ahh, the justice system is just slightly inefficient."

Politkovskaya was more than just "some critic who became famous after her death": she was probably the biggest and most renowned critic of the regime, even writing a book on the matter: Putin's Russia.

But of course I am just a troll right? No, I'm sure having your country led by a former member of the secret police has nothing to do with all of these people dying and their investigations never being resolved. I'm sure they all just "went down the wrong alley on the way home"... one at a time...

[Panzerbear]

Oh yes, how very inappropriate that I see the rising body-count of critic journalists in Russia and yet the best you nationalists ever say is "ahh, the justice system is just slightly inefficient."

you do realize that you are talking about a journalist killed 3 years ago and act as if it happens on a daily basis?

and lol, did you just call me a nationalist?

Politkovskaya was more than just "some critic who became famous after her death": she was probably the biggest and most renowned critic of the regime, even writing a book on the matter: Putin's Russia.

Politkovskaya was one of hundreds of oppositional journalists in Russia. the only reason why you even know her name in the first place is because she was killed. what are you even trying to argue about here?

so, everybody who writes a book unfavourable of Putin is getting killed by the govt, is that what you are trying to say? prove it then, humor us all. you just forgot to mention that Politkovskaya also happened to do a lot of sniffing around mafia, chechen regional govt, and so on and so forth, and had hundreds of legitimate enemies.

But of course I am just a troll right?

you said it .

No, I'm sure having your country led by a former member of the secret police

president Medvedev has nothing to do with the former secret police. and so are many other prominent political leaders.

has nothing to do with all of these people dying and their investigations never being resolved.

can you please provide me any evidence for ANY CONTRACT KILLING in Russia from 1991-2008 ever been solved? there were single lucky cases, but in general, contract killings are virtually unsolvable. not because some mythincal baby eating KGB agent is in power who has nothing to do but preventing lawsuits from being successful, but because of lack of professionalsm in the police, in the Russian court system and quite elaborate skill of the mafia hitmen (most of which had formal military training btw).

I'm sure they all just "went down the wrong alley on the way home"... one at a time...

no, all the assassinated people were deliberately assassinated. journalists, politicians, businessmen, mafia bosses, lawyers, and so on and so forth. what doest it have to do with the govt though? do you blame Bush or Obama for every time someone gets shot in the ghetto? jesus ing christ man, stop wasting the forum space.

[Nikitn]

Oh yes, how very inappropriate that I see the rising body-count of critic journalists in Russia and yet the best you nationalists ever say is "ahh, the justice system is just slightly inefficient."

Politkovskaya was more than just "some critic who became famous after her death": she was probably the biggest and most renowned critic of the regime, even writing a book on the matter: Putin's Russia.

But of course I am just a troll right? No, I'm sure having your country led by a former member of the secret police has nothing to do with all of these people dying and their investigations never being resolved. I'm sure they all just "went down the wrong alley on the way home"... one at a time...

As Czar said, stop your trolling. Politikovskaya was hated BY ALLOT of people. The government didn't give a damn about her (besides, what good would it do to assassinate her? Who do you think people like you would blame?)

I didn't like her either.

[Babur]

As Czar said, stop your trolling. Politikovskaya was hated BY ALLOT of people. The government didn't give a about her (besides, what good would it do to assassinate her? Who do you think people like you would blame?)

I didn't like her either.

Maybe she was only hated by Russian nationalists like yourself

[Nikitn]

Maybe she was only hated by Russian nationalists like yourself

1. I'm not a nationalist. I'm only defending my country from trolls on the internet.
2. I didn't hate her. I barely even cared about her. She was a random critic.
3. No, she was hated by people she pissed off (corrupt government officials, gangsters, Mafia etc).

[Nikitn]

Yeah, great! People are once again whining. This time - because Russian police haven't caught the right person(s) - Russian government is trying to cover it up.

yuh this is awful and Nikitn said this in another thread:

What's funny? You're saying BS indirectly (Putin was an unskilled (or evil) politician, and you wish him to die?).I said complete facts.

Romano Dacis: It is incredible how biased your posts are. Asking silly questions, claiming people are assassins even though it was decided they weren't..

[Seether]

Romano Dacis: It is incredible how biased your posts are. Asking silly questions, claiming people are assassins even though it was decided they weren't..

OJ was found innocent... :hmmm:

[Treize]

Instead about whining about how evil Putin is, take a look at what he has done for the country, ok?

We need a leader like that too...

[motiv-8]

Instead about whining about how evil Putin is, take a look at what he has done for the country, ok?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!

That's probably what they said about Stalin!

[Nikitn]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!

That's probably what they said about Stalin!

Your argument is idiotic.

Polish death camps? And many other statements which's aim was just to pump someone's russian ego, despite the facts? Anyway, don't want to go back into that discussion- if you want to do it, pm me, let's solve it private way.

I thought we settled this. If you look at it's incredibly high deathrates, then it is a deathcamp by definition. My statements are no more biased then youres about Poland.But people don't constantly attack Poland here all the time.

[Phunkracy]

Your argument is idiotic.

I thought we settled this. If you look at it's incredibly high deathrates, then it is a deathcamp by definition. My statements are no more biased then youres about Poland.But people don't constantly attack Poland here all the time.

Exclusively for debate, you widened definition of 'death camp' to actually very poorly led POW camp. Nobody called neither post-WWII Nazi POWs camps a death camps, nor Polish POWs camp during PL-Bolshevik war, where BTW death rate was much, much higher, and so were the numbers of polish pows. In death camps, people were killed on purpose. In all mentioned above camps people weren't killed on purpose.

That's maybe because Poles did not messed with anyone expect Ukrainians, Czechs, Nazis and Soviets in the last 100 years. Overall our history has very little parts which we could apologise for.