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    http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/...ter/index.html

    I would rate this as a pretty good example of change. Let us hope it is an example of enlightenment moving forward.
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    Sorry, page not found. It's a myth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikelus Trento View Post
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/world/meast/...ter/index.html

    I would rate this as a pretty good example of change.
    page not found? this is change. the editor prolly got stoned. and i am not talking drugs.

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    jsut wait until she leaves the cabinet alone. (without a man)

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    Well, I bet she will be able to decide to drive to work if she wants to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikelus Trento View Post
    Well, I bet she will be able to decide to drive to work if she wants to.
    she better drives faster then a man can throw a stone then

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    she better drives faster then a man can throw a stone then
    I sense then you are saying that King Abdullah appointing a woman to his council chambers doesn't signify a shift in women's rights in Saudi Arabia?
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    no, it does. afghanistan should have a female president as well to accelerate the process.

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    Yeah change in Saudi Arabia.

    The women in that country are treated like slaves.

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    It is a MAJOR shift, and will send messages throughout the Muslim world.

    Including the extremists. Including the Taliban. Including Al-Queda.
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    and whats the message. be nice to america and your wife will be boss. this could backfire too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlerich View Post
    and whats the message. be nice to america and your wife will be boss. this could backfire too.
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    This is big, especially so since it's coming from Saudi Arabia. Perhaps there might be hope yet.

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    The government of Saudi Arabia is not the problem with Saudi Arabia. They are the moderates. It's the 9th century hicks that make up most of the population that are the problem.
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    The King of Saudi Arabia has always been the reformer, I recall some voting had taken place a few years ago, and women were allowed to vote and stand, although my memory is hazy. The thing is though....The King doesn't rule Saudi Arabia. Insider politics dictate actually the Crown Prince has more power and influence, since he is courting the clerics who control all domestic policy in the Kingdom.

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    I hope she doesn't becomes a token
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    Good, hopefully this will get a message across to folks like the Taliban and al-Qaeda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastern Prince View Post
    I hope she doesn't becomes a token
    Deputy Minister of Women's Education. Does that sound like a token position to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacifist Hummingbird View Post
    Deputy Minister of Women's Education. Does that sound like a token position to you?
    A token position -- yes.

    Symbolic -- yes.

    Of course any change will need to start out as a token symbolic position. Look at the difficulties with intergrating the USA military during WWII. Integration did not start with a presidential order by Truman. There were many small, symbolic, and token steps along the way.

    What this means for the future depends on how she is treated within the government and whether she is allowed to implement any real changes within the confines of her portfolio.

    Good luck to them. Good luck to her.
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