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    February 12, 2009
    Reporting from Washington -- Little more than a year after U.S. spy agencies concluded that Iran had halted work on a nuclear weapon, the Obama administration has made it clear that it believes there is no question that Tehran is seeking the bomb.

    In his news conference this week, President Obama went so far as to describe Iran's "development of a nuclear weapon" before correcting himself to refer to its "pursuit" of weapons capability.

    Obama's nominee to serve as CIA director, Leon E. Panetta, left little doubt about his view last week when he testified on Capitol Hill. "From all the information I've seen," Panetta said, "I think there is no question that they are seeking that capability."

    The language reflects the extent to which senior U.S. officials now discount a National Intelligence Estimate issued in November 2007 that was instrumental in derailing U.S. and European efforts to pressure Iran to shut down its nuclear program.

    As the administration moves toward talks with Iran, Obama appears to be sending a signal that the United States will not be drawn into a debate over Iran's intent.

    "When you're talking about negotiations in Iran, it is dangerous to appear weak or naive," said Joseph Cirincione, a nuclear weapons expert and president of the Ploughshares Fund, an anti-proliferation organization based in Washington.

    Cirincione said the unequivocal language also worked to Obama's political advantage. "It guards against criticism from the right that the administration is underestimating Iran," he said.

    Iran has long maintained that it aims to generate electricity, not build bombs, with nuclear power. But Western intelligence officials and nuclear experts increasingly view those claims as implausible.

    U.S. officials said that although no new evidence had surfaced to undercut the findings of the 2007 estimate, there was growing consensus that it provided a misleading picture and that the country was poised to reach crucial bomb-making milestones this year.

    Obama's top intelligence official, Dennis C. Blair, the director of national intelligence, is expected to address mounting concerns over Iran's nuclear program in testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee today.

    When it was issued, the NIE stunned the international community. It declared that U.S. spy agencies judged "with high confidence that in fall 2003, Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program."

    U.S. intelligence officials later said the conclusion was based on evidence that Iran had stopped secret efforts to design a nuclear warhead around the time of the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

    Often overlooked in the NIE, officials said, was that Iran had not stopped its work on other crucial fronts, including missile design and uranium enrichment. Many experts contend that these are more difficult than building a bomb.

    Iran's advances on enrichment have become a growing source of alarm. Since 2004, the country has gone from operating a few dozen centrifuges -- cylindrical machines used to enrich uranium -- to nearly 6,000, weapons experts agree.

    By November, Iran had produced an estimated 1,400 pounds of low-enriched uranium, not nearly enough to fuel a nuclear energy reactor, but perilously close to the quantity needed to make a bomb.

    A report issued last month by the Institute for Science and International Security concluded that "Iran is moving steadily toward a breakout capability and is expected to reach that milestone during the first half of 2009." That means it would have enough low-enriched uranium to be able to quickly convert it to weapons-grade material.

    Tehran's progress has come despite CIA efforts to sabotage shipments of centrifuge components on their way into Iran and entice the country's nuclear scientists to leave.

    Iran still faces considerable hurdles. The country touted its launch of a 60-pound satellite into orbit this month. Experts said Iran's rockets would need to be able to carry more than 2,000 pounds to deliver a first-generation nuclear bomb.

    And there are indications that the U.S. and Iran are interested in holding serious diplomatic discussions for the first time in three decades. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said this week that his nation was "ready to hold talks based on mutual respect," and Obama indicated that his administration would look for opportunities "in the coming months."

    Hassan Qashqavi, spokesman for Iran's Foreign Ministry, on Wednesday warned the U.S. not to wait for Iranian presidential elections this year, because ultimate authority rests with supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

    He also said Iran would be patient.

    "Since a new administration came to power in the U.S., we do not want to burn the opportunity of President Obama and give him time to change the reality on the ground," Qashqavi said.

    But experts said Iran was now close enough to nuclear weapons capability that it may be less susceptible to international pressure.

    "They've made more progress in the last five years than in the previous 10," Cirincione said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caelius View Post
    Well, it seems like a good old-fashioned western crusade should be the acceptable solution then, yes? Question is, how do we go about doing so without getting people bogged down in a war that will make Iraq look like a child's playground?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyrus View Post
    Well, it seems like a good old-fashioned western crusade should be the acceptable solution then, yes? Question is, how do we go about doing so without getting people bogged down in a war that will make Iraq look like a child's playground?
    Just hire Rumsfeld.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberias View Post
    Just hire Rumsfeld.

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    What an arrogant ass.
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    hmmm I thought there was going to be change:hmmm: but doens't seem like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyrus View Post
    Well, it seems like a good old-fashioned western crusade should be the acceptable solution then, yes? Question is, how do we go about doing so without getting people bogged down in a war that will make Iraq look like a child's playground?
    Nobody said that war was inevitable or the only option. The article did not even mention a war with Iran at all. Quite, the opposite actually:
    Quote Originally Posted by Los Angeles Times
    And there are indications that the U.S. and Iran are interested in holding serious diplomatic discussions for the first time in three decades. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said this week that his nation was "ready to hold talks based on mutual respect," and Obama indicated that his administration would look for opportunities "in the coming months."
    Quote Originally Posted by Quadratus View Post
    The language seems familiar to Bush, Just replace "Iran"/"Tehran" w/ "Iraq"/"Baghdad"
    Not really. The Obama administration merely accepted the fact that Iran might be aiming for nuclear weapons. They do not wish to attack Iran by any means. However, it is necessary to acknowledge the possibility of Iran becoming a nuclear power and to negotiate with Iran based on that. Which is exactly what Obama is aiming for.
    Quote Originally Posted by karo View Post
    hmmm I thought there was going to be change:hmmm: but doens't seem like it.
    How is there no change? The Bush administration broadly claimed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction - without providing sufficient evidence - and invaded the country because of that. In comparison, Obama merely mentioned that Iran might become a nuclear threat in the future and that diplomatic discussions are needed. Therefore, he clearly approaches the situation in a very different way.
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    This, and The American Kidnapped by Separatists.

    Good luck oBUMa.

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    America declaring another country has WMDs?
    Hardly trustworthy.

    I'll wait for the UN report that hasn't been touched by the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadratus View Post
    This, and The American Kidnapped by Separatists.

    Good luck oBUMa.
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    The language seems familiar to Bush, Just replace "Iran"/"Tehran" w/ "Iraq"/"Baghdad"

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    Wait, isn't there a country out somewhere that is infested with terrorists and without a doubt has WMDs?

    In any case, we probably should invade Iran to secure a railway for the soviets.

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    haha.. we should wait for the UN xD
    Ever seen Team America World Police

    All they will do is write in angry letter :O I expect Israel to do something before they actually obtain the capability to create a bomb. And then we would get involved - and before you know it its WW3

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    i dont really like Iran, it bugs me, this time America should gather enough info to make sure there is WMDs there (no mistakes this time idiots) and then i want to see a large piece of radioactive slag where Iran used to be
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    Quote Originally Posted by saglam2000 View Post
    i dont really like Iran, it bugs me, this time America should gather enough info to make sure there is WMDs there (no mistakes this time idiots) and then i want to see a large piece of radioactive slag where Iran used to be
    You know what i think? i think turkey should kick iran's ass just for the hell of it.

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    Well without sarcasm, I Imagine a lot of people would like to get Iran's theocratical leaders knocked down a notch from their agressive ,over-proud and presumptious position.
    But I think that the only real threat here is that Iran decides it wants to bankrupt itself by not selling oil (and it will go bankrupt much faster then anyoen else will, They dont even produce the most oil int he world they just have the second-biggest proven reserves after Ukraine)
    America should make friends with the ukraine
    Edit: whoops i think its actually Canada that has the biggest reserves, If you include the arctic anyway, But not really important, Basically Iran doesnt have the biggest reserves.
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    I doubt Iran wud have the guts to even use the nuclear weapons nd attck any country. They saying theyd use it for their own benefits like building nuclear power plants etc.. All i can say to monitor Iran and observe whether or not they are doing something thats a threat.

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    If you watch the movie Lions For Lambs, Sen. Jasper Irving mentions that Iran is next.

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    This, and The American Kidnapped by Separatists.

    Good luck oBUMa.
    He will need that, now that the Baluch are linking up with the Taliban, as was to be expected. Would say Iran and the USA might be working together behind the scenes pretty soon in preventing the Taliban running amok in the region.

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    Nuke 'Em! Nuke 'Em! DIE IRAN!!!!1!!11

    Really, we shouldn't put up with this.

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    To those who have finally recognized this threat, I say: Well, no .

    However...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Jeb
    Nuke 'Em! Nuke 'Em! DIE IRAN!!!!1!!11
    This would be the height of folly

    Really, we shouldn't put up with this.
    This I find much easier to agree with, but the question remains...what exactly should we do about it, short of direct military action/a nuclear strike?

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