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    It's rotten Latin with a rotten message, Zuwxiv. If you're going to badmouth the POTUS and his staff in Latin, at least make it correct Latin.

    Grammatically Incorrect Trash: Bushus dixit Condeleezam esse bonus in cubiculo.

    Grammatically Correct Trash: Bushus dixit Condoleezam esse bonam in cubiculo.

    Your teacher is failing to be objective and professional, but much worse is that she does not even know the class material. It's the ignorant teaching the ignorant: my god, civilization is ending before my eyes!


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    Aww, that was my mistake. I just thought bonus -a -um and forgot to put it in the feminine... :blush

    But in class I believe it was correct. I'm fixing it in the other post, thanks for pointing that out. But you have to admit it is a little funny, even if it is trash. :happy

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    Translate Filius Meritricis :whistle
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    Zuwxiv:
    It still needs tweaking: it must be bonam in the accusative.


    meishme:
    You mean filius meretricis perhaps? Son of a prostitute. The word meretrix is not lowclass enough to properly be a whore as perhaps you anticipated. That would be a muliebris togata or a lupa by slang.

    To wear the toga was not lady-like. The toga-clad women were hookers. Women of polite society wore stolae.

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    Actually, it's the best course I've come across.

    Nice phrases, I like "asinus stultissimus". It means "The most stupid ******", but if you just wanted to say "dumb", it would be asinus stultus.
    Yes, it goes like this :

    Superlative : Stutissimus (Most Stupid)
    Comparative : Stultior (More Stupid)
    Positive : Stultus (Stupid)

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    Valde bene! Video multos homines linguam latinam loqui.
    Sed quis moderator est?

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    AVREA SVNT VERE NVNC SAECVLA. PLVRIMUS AVRO
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    I always loved the word positive in that context... just so wierd. I suppose it is because smething has that attribute.

    On the CLC (Cambridge Latin Course): I hated it. It may be a good course, but nothing in there grabs you and keeps your attention; in fact, it is better to work through translating literature that has been arranged from the beginning of the course. I have exprience of both natures thanks to learning Greek from the (far better in terms of style) Greek to GCSE books. In my GCSE year, we have abandoned vboth and are now simply working on consolidation and translation including of Homeric Greek... and that, thnaks to the wonderful iambic hexameter, is difficult, but Virgil is harder still.
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    This is on the back of America: The Book, and I don't know what it means .

    "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consecteteur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron88
    This is on the back of America: The Book, and I don't know what it means .

    "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consecteteur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua!"
    Are you sure you got the sentence right? In the first part there are two verbs, both in third person subjunctive, that's strange and makes no sense to me. "consecteteur" and "adipiscing" are two more examples that seem strange and there are more.

    Please make sure to get the spelling 100% correct, cause otherwise it's very hard to translate a latin sentence. The endings of the words are especially important.
    AVREA SVNT VERE NVNC SAECVLA. PLVRIMUS AVRO
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    (ovidius, ars amatoria 2,277)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron88
    This is on the back of America: The Book, and I don't know what it means .

    "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consecteteur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua!"
    Lorem Ipsum is simply dummy text of the printing and typesetting industry. Lorem Ipsum has been the industry's standard dummy text ever since the 1500s, when an unknown printer took a galley of type and scrambled it to make a type specimen book. It has survived not only five centuries, but also the leap into electronic typesetting, remaining essentially unchanged. It was popularised in the 1960s with the release of Letraset sheets containing Lorem Ipsum passages, and more recently with desktop publishing software like Aldus PageMaker including versions of Lorem Ipsum.

    It is a long established fact that a reader will be distracted by the readable content of a page when looking at its layout. The point of using Lorem Ipsum is that it has a more-or-less normal distribution of letters, as opposed to using 'Content here, content here', making it look like readable English. Many desktop publishing packages and web page editors now use Lorem Ipsum as their default model text, and a search for 'lorem ipsum' will uncover many web sites still in their infancy. Various versions have evolved over the years, sometimes by accident, sometimes on purpose (injected humour and the like).

    Contrary to popular belief, Lorem Ipsum is not simply random text. It has roots in a piece of classical Latin literature from 45 BC, making it over 2000 years old. Richard McClintock, a Latin professor at Hampden-Sydney College in Virginia, looked up one of the more obscure Latin words, consectetur, from a Lorem Ipsum passage, and going through the cites of the word in classical literature, discovered the undoubtable source. Lorem Ipsum comes from sections 1.10.32 and 1.10.33 of "de Finibus Bonorum et Malorum" (The Extremes of Good and Evil) by Cicero, written in 45 BC. This book is a treatise on the theory of ethics, very popular during the Renaissance. The first line of Lorem Ipsum, "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet..", comes from a line in section 1.10.32.

    The standard chunk of Lorem Ipsum used since the 1500s is reproduced below for those interested. Sections 1.10.32 and 1.10.33 from "de Finibus Bonorum et Malorum" by Cicero are also reproduced in their exact original form, accompanied by English versions from the 1914 translation by H. Rackham.

    There are many variations of passages of Lorem Ipsum available, but the majority have suffered alteration in some form, by injected humour, or randomised words which don't look even slightly believable. If you are going to use a passage of Lorem Ipsum, you need to be sure there isn't anything embarrassing hidden in the middle of text.

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    Garb: I didn't knew you were a typography buff... how things are huh?

    Zuwxiv: Comendattore, teaching the masses huh? Vale!
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    Dis donta luk lika latin to mi?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asterix
    Dis donta luk lika latin to mi?
    Vere in hac disputatione multum scriptum est, quod non est pars linguae latinae. Sed iterum disputatio haec ad discendam et docendam latinitatem creavitur, itaque eget aliquae linguae, quae ad disputandum aeque docendum utitur.
    Videsne? Et sentetiam tuam minime linguam latinam esse videtur etiam videtur esse minime linguam anglicam.
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    (This is NOT the translation of the above)

    Is there still anyone interested in continuing this "learn latin" thread with its former purpose (to teach/learn latin)? If it's so, I could teach some, but on a more regular base than before. So, if someone is really interested in learning some latin, post here, please.
    AVREA SVNT VERE NVNC SAECVLA. PLVRIMUS AVRO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel I Comnenus
    Vere in hac disputatione multum scriptum est, quod non est pars linguae latinae. Sed iterum disputatio haec ad discendam et docendam latinitatem creavitur, itaque eget aliquae linguae, quae ad disputandum aeque docendum utitur.
    Videsne? Et sentetiam tuam minime linguam latinam esse videtur etiam videtur esse minime linguam anglicam.
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    (This is NOT the translation of the above)

    Is there still anyone interested in continuing this "learn latin" thread with its former purpose (to teach/learn latin)? If it's so, I could teach some, but on a more regular base than before. So, if someone is really interested in learning some latin, post here, please.
    adstipulator sum! cognitor sum! adiscodidici egeo! emendare egeo!
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    Manuel, I have a problem with your post. Summariised in one word, it is capitals. No letter other than the start of a proper name is a capital letter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeakus Maximus
    Manuel, I have a problem with your post. Summariised in one word, it is capitals. No letter other than the start of a proper name is a capital letter.
    Well, I suppose you are refering to latin as it was written back then in Roman times, right? Or do you mean my english text?

    All I can say is that for all I know the Romans used only Capital letters in writing. they didn't even make spaces between letters and didn't use punctuation marks.
    But I choose to write my sentences with punctuation, spaces and the seperation of "u" and "v" in order to make it better readable, like it's done in many contemporary issues of ancient latin texts.
    You don't want me to write it like this:
    VEREINHACDISPVTATIONEMVLTVMSCRIPTVMESTQVODNONEST
    PARSLINGVAELATINAESEDITERVM...
    Now, do you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Asterix
    adstipulator sum! cognitor sum! adiscodidici egeo! emendare egeo!
    So you are a supporter,
    a witness,
    you need an "adiscodidicus" (sorry, couldn't find that)
    and you need to be corrected (is that right? I can't remember the meaning of egere + inf)
    I'm really sorry, but I can't really make sense of your words.
    AVREA SVNT VERE NVNC SAECVLA. PLVRIMUS AVRO
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    So you are a supporter,
    a witness,
    you need an "adiscodidicus" (sorry, couldn't find that)
    and you need to be corrected (is that right? I can't remember the meaning of egere + inf)
    I'm really sorry, but I can't really make sense of your words

    egeo means I want!

    I wanted to say with the adiscodicus that I wanted to learn.... I need additional learning

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    egeo can mean both, I think. it also depends on the case it is used with.
    It's one of the weird words. You seldom now what it actually was intended to mean

    You want to learn, thats great. Let's see if there are more, so we can revive this thread to its former glory
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    What I was refering to is the way it is now always written. I would guess this comes from some form of scrolls, and the same applies to Hellenic Greek or earlier: it is written conventionally in textbooks without capitals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeakus Maximus
    What I was refering to is the way it is now always written. I would guess this comes from some form of scrolls, and the same applies to Hellenic Greek or earlier: it is written conventionally in textbooks without capitals.
    I've looked it up in some texts and it seems to depend on the kind of text and for whom it was published. In all school books the writing was with capital letters as I did it. An issue of Cicero's letters did it as well, while one of Caesars De Bello Gallico only used Capitals at the beginning of each paragraph. Some poems of Ovidius show the same discrepancies, while the Metamorphoses where entirely without Capitals except the beginning of each book and names, in the Ars Amatoria a Capital letter at the beginning of each line was used.

    But where is the problem. It won't become unreadable just because I use Capitals at the beginning of a sentence, will it?
    Last edited by Manuel I Comnenus; October 06, 2005 at 08:14 AM.
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