Learn Latin!

[Cleisthenes]

Aha. Will do in the future.

Sounds goods.

Clay

[Shigawire]

Zuwxiw: The "dulce et decorum" wav sounds affected by a very strong anglophonic accent.

Here is how the classical latin would sound when pronounced by a phonetic speaker, trilling the R's.

[Cleisthenes]

Even better, Shiga, but it seems a little fast for a lesson. The guy requesting the pronunciation guide is a not Latin-speaker at all, and it will likely just confuse him. If it is slowed down and et is not blended into the end of dulce it may be easier to compare the print version to the voice.

Nonetheless, a great viva voce rendition.

Clay

[Dominus Gnaritas]

I think you're right. Being Dutch I can prenounce the harch R with ease, but probably most Anglosaxons can not. I also think it's difficult to learn.

[Gulielmus Vectis]

Originally posted by Intru@Apr 26 2005, 10:13 PM
Words should mien the same in all languages Dulce is candy in spanish

Candy is a American word right. In England we say sweets, so if you think dulce = sweet in both latin and castillian, it does make sense really.

[Habelo]

Originally posted by Zuwxiv@Apr 11 2005, 09:22 PM
Someone mentioned learning latin in the latin thread here, so I figured... Why not start a topic?

Alright, there is no way I can teach anyone latin in one post, and I am only second year, but I hope I can put up some basics. I'm going to be using some books to help me with examples... The first book that I will use is Cambridge Latin Course Unit 1, which is an easy reader, but doesn't teach very well. I will try to fill in the blanks, but first, here is some vocab.

est: is
pater: father
mater: mother
filius: son
servus: slave
coquus: cook
canis: dog
in: in (a lot of words are very similar or the exact same thing in english... this helps&#33
tablino: study
triclinio: dining room
atrio: greeting hall, reception room
horto: garden
culina: kitchen
scribit: writing
sedet: sitting
bibit: drinking
laborat: working
dormit: sleeping
via: street
intrat: enters
circumspectat: looks around
cibus: food
in mensa: on the table ("in" can mean on as well)
salit: jumps
stat: stands
stertit: snores
latrat: barks
surgit: gets up
iratus: angry
pestis: pest
furcifer: scoundrel
clamat: shouts
exit: goes out

Just some quick things to know but not necessarily right now.
All words change. There are twelve different forms for nouns and many different forms for verbs... over a hundred, I believe. Don't try to remember them now.
There is no word for "the" or "a" in this form of latin (the "fancy" book type is what this is, I believe)
Sentence order: Subject (the person doing something), then direct object (the thing recieving the action), then the verb at the end.
So instead of I (subject) kick (verb) the ball (direct object)....
English: I kick the ball.
Latin: I the ball kick.
It kind of sounds like yoda. :p

Some names that I will use from the book:

Caecilius: a banker, the father of the family.
Metella: the mother.
Quintus: the son
Clemens: the slave
Grumio: the kook.
Cerberus: the dog (cerberus was the dog in the underworld)

Here are some basic sentences:
Caecilius pater est. (Caecilius is a name, and the verb goes last, so this reads Caecilius is a father.)
Metella mater est.
Quintus filius est.
Clemens servus est.
Grumio coquus est.
Cerberus canis est.

Caecilius in tablino est. (Caecilius is in the study.)
Metella in atrio est.
Quintus in triclinio est.
pater in tablino scribit. (The father is writing in the study.)
mater in atrio sedet.
filius in triclinio bibit.

If anyone has questions or comments, just post! More later....

Why learn latin?? I mean before when the romans spooked it then it was pride in it, now its like just kristen ******! For those ho belive in kristen god.

[Zuwxiv]

Latin is a very useful language. If you speak any latin derived / romantic language (Roman = romatic) you can learn about your own language.

That includes
French
Italian
Spanish
English
And to a lesser extent, some central european dialects. That is a lot of languages.

And besides, if you swear at someone, they have no idea what you are saying. HAhahahah!

[mib]

There's LATIN swearwords??? WOW!!!

Signing up for latin next year.

[Zuwxiv]

Some of them are real versions of our words, and some were insults in their own time. Like Hercle, "by hercules," wasn't a very nice thing to say. However, other terms, like asinus (or is it assinus?), ("@$$") not only were insults but are the derivitives of our insults today. (Although asinus could be used to refer to a donkey, it could also be an insult).

But I highly reccomend taking Latin as a language if your school offers it. And if you want the insults, there is a book called "Extreme Latin" that has a lot of... Interesting... phrases, such as "Woah, nice tits!" and ":wub: you" "go :wub: yourself", ect. :p

[Jebus]

This thread brings back memories of long, sweaty hours on sunny days back in high school.


Good lord, how I don't miss Latin classes. They got so boring after a year or five...


I'm pretty stupid for choosing history as my university education then, though :-/

[Zuwxiv]

Of course it is hard to memorize all the patterns, it will take a while. I'm not expecting anyone who learns online to be fluent... Just to have a basic understanding of the language.

And by the way, in my Latin 2 class, we just started the Subjunctive.

Ya. :getlost :mellow :getlost :mellow :crying :sick :wack

But every language will get boring after 5 years. For instance, we still have english class.... Through high school..... :blink

[mib]

Originally posted by Zuwxiv@May 5 2005, 07:32 PM
Some of them are real versions of our words, and some were insults in their own time. Like Hercle, "by hercules," wasn't a very nice thing to say. However, other terms, like asinus (or is it assinus?), ("@$$") not only were insults but are the derivitives of our insults today. (Although asinus could be used to refer to a donkey, it could also be an insult).

But I highly reccomend taking Latin as a language if your school offers it. And if you want the insults, there is a book called "Extreme Latin" that has a lot of... Interesting... phrases, such as "Woah, nice tits!" and ":wub: you" "go :wub: yourself", ect. :p

Couldn't find it on amazon? Who's the author?

[Raiden]

I thought it might be fun if I added some some Latin phrases:

Te odeo, interfice te cochleare(I hate you, kill yourself with a spoon)

Utinam coniurati te in foro interficiant(May conspirators assassinate you in the mall)

Recedite, plebes! Gero rem imperialem(Stand aside plebeians! I am on imperial business)

Asinus Stultissimus(something like "Dumbass" though it actually means "Very stupid donkey")

[Last_Crusader]

If I remember it all correctly, the book was published by Cambridge university. It's actually a better method for the teaching of reading and writing than I've come across for other languages, but hey...

SPOILER WARNING:

Caecillius himself dies horribly in the Vesuvius eruption, along with the dog whose name escapes me. Just so you know *tongue*

A final question: Is the copyright still valid? Does the university press care?

[Zuwxiv]

Nooo&#33; You ruined the story&#33; Cerberus&#33;&#33; :><

Nice phrases, I like "asinus stultissimus". It means "The most stupid ******", but if you just wanted to say "dumb", it would be asinus stultus.

I&#39;ll post some more passages when I get the opportunity, probably later today/tomorrow. I&#39;ve been busy, poor neglected thread. :crying

[U.A.T]

someone know wat is:
pisces foram (or forae, cnat remenber) konas?

[U.A.T]

Originally posted by Zuwxiv@May 4 2005, 10:34 PM
Latin is a very useful language. If you speak any latin derived / romantic language (Roman = romatic) you can learn about your own language.

That includes
French
Italian
Spanish
English
And to a lesser extent, some central european dialects. That is a lot of languages.

And besides, if you swear at someone, they have no idea what you are saying. HAhahahah&#33;

And portugueses? how the heck everybody forgets portugal... THAT PISSES ME OFF :crying we are people you know? we arent spanish(yeah i know that they are people too, but not PORTUGUESE people) so remenber that we arent spanish please&#33; :crying :crying :crying BUAHAAAHAAAHHAAHAHAAAA :crying

[Pragman]

I&#39;ll soon be done with a year of latin

[Pragman]

Btw my favorite quote from a latin poem: "Quis mihi nok demens, quis non mihi barbere, dixit?"
Meaning something like "Who didn&#39;t call me insane, who didn&#39;y call me a barbarian?"

[Zuwxiv]

I swear to God we actually used this sentence as an example in my latin class.

"Bushus dixit Condoleezam esse bona* in cubiculo."

"Bush said Condeeleza is good in bed."

But to break down the sentence

Bushus (noun)
Nominative, subject, thats why there is the -us ending

dixit (verb)
In the perfect tense, third person singular is -it, so (dico, dicere, dixi, dictus) would use the third principle part (bold). That would translate as "he said" or "she said" or "it said".

Condoleezam (noun)
The -am is accusative, or direct object. (recieving the action, I think it is something more complicated but I&#39;ll explain that later)

esse (verb)
This is part of the verb "to be", and this particular form is translated as "is."

bona*(adjective)
Good.

in
"in" in latin means "in" in english.

cubiculo (noun: bed)
This is the ablative form of cubiculus. The ablative has the -o ending, and is used for a variety of things but mostly used with prepositions... This case, "in bed&#39;.
Sorry for forgetting Portuguese&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

*: I originally put bonus, which is masculine. Unless Condoleeza really has something to hide, it should be bona as Cleisthenes put in the next post. Thanks&#33;