Holocaust™

[gojira]

Hungarian Jews called to register for class action

Peter Wolz, who describes himself as an attorney for Jewish survivors of Auschwitz and their heirs, is appealing for Hungarian victims of the death camps and their heirs to contacts him over a possible class action.

Düsseldorf-based Wolz says he has already filed a class action for $40 billion against the US government at the Federal District court of Colombia, in Washington DC. The class action concerns the failure of the Allies to bomb the railway bridges between Hungary and Auschwitz during the Second World War. Wolz believes the bombing of the railway bridges could have saved more than 400,000 Hungarian Jews life during 1944. He put the number of Budapest Jews who escaped the Holocaust – people like financier George Soros and the late Congressman Tom Lantos – at about 120,000 only.
“The responsible Federal judge drew a summons, which was delivered to President George W Bush,” Wolz told The Budapest Sun via email.
“In his reply the President declared, ‘The US accepts the well-pled allegations of the complaint as true,’” the attorney claimed.
Wolz’s call for Hungarian survivors and heirs to register with his IPAS (international project group Auschwitz Sammelklagen (class action)), organization, for either further punitive class actions at US Federal Courts, or for settlement out of court, follows Bush’s visit to the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial in Israel this January.
Evil exists
Speaking at the site, the President was quoted by the Associated Press as saying, “I wish as many people as possible would come to this place. It is a sobering reminder that evil exists, and a call that when evil exists. we must resist it.”
Wolz, who says the President also said “We should have bombed Auschwitz,” at the memorial, insists that the US Air Force, which controlled the European skies in 1944, could easily have bombed the railways and the bridges bringing Hungarian Jews to Auschwitz. But the camp and its supply lines were taken off the final list of target proposals and never were bombed.
“Auschwitz survivors and heirs of victims are called to register by post with I.P.A.S., Bahnstr 24, D-42781 Haan-Gruiten,” Wolz said.

EDIT: As I was asked for my opinion on this:

This is not the first case that a dubious "jew" makes profit of Holocaust™. I doubt the legitimacy of that claim and I see my own country- which has paid more than 100.000.000.000 Bn $ to these terrorists so far and which is treated the same way- reflected in this scandalous treatment of western societies.
Will there ever be a time, when those swindlers get what they deserve? (A slap with the fist directly into the face ).

Opinion enuff?

http://www.budapestsun.com/cikk.php?id=27879

[Yorkshireman]

You need to give some sort of reason or opinion when posting an article.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Article appears immediately dubious. No date - clearly quite old due to the mention of President Bush.

[Markas]

From February 2008. What about it?

[removeduser_487563287433]

From February 2008. What about it?

Motivation. If not on going or new or even vaguely significant why has brother member posted this? Easy to guess from his conduct the past few days.

[gojira]

n the past few years, Jewish survivors have filed numerous lawsuits against Swiss banks, German companies and other European entities and governments, leading to several multi-billion-dollar settlements. Recently, however, the focus has been shifting toward America's role in the Nazi atrocities and their aftermath. A lawsuit, since dropped, was filed against IBM alleging that its German subsidiary colluded with the Nazi regime. The Auschwitz bombing suit, despite its remote chances of success, is creating a sense of unease among Jewish organizations. The $40 billion sought in compensation is also raising eyebrows. The Swiss banks, for example, settled for $1.25 billion and German industry and government for $5.2 billion.

http://mailstar.net/finkelstein.html

"An appropriate request set, communicated the federal district court New York for the lawyers of the victims the Duesseldorfer victim lawyer Peter Wolz on Thursday. Auschwitzopfer had sued in the middle of October the US president for payment of 400 million US dollar. The court New York granted George W. Bush a 20-taegige period. Bush fortune from LV slave work Plaintiff is the international project group Auschwitz Sammelklagen (Ipas). After their opinion the inherited fortune Bushs is based partially from profits from LV slave work, which is to have made its grandfather Prescott Bush by business with the Nazis in the Second World War. The joint owner of a steel company profited to described Wolz so also from the slave work in the extermination camp Auschwitz. "particularly because of the much the decision of the court, a statement astonishes discussed immunity of acting presidents to the complaint reproaches of George W. Bush too fordern", Wolz said. In order to waive the immunity of the president, the Holocaust victims had requested impeachment proceedings in October against Bush unsuccessfully with the US senate. Ipas already sued US government Before three years the Ipas represented by Wolz had already sued the US government and 40 billion dollar (30.8 billion euro) remuneration for the Auschwitz victims had demanded. After their opinion the USA 1944 could have prevented the death of over 400,000 Hungarian Jews, if the military had bombarded the approach road ways and railway bridges to the camp. The federal district court Washington had explained itself not responsibly at that time as and to the national sovereignty with military decisions had referred."

http://www.urbansurvival.com/nl12262004a.htm

I do not think that story is made up, and the deeper I look, the more I find.

[Markas]

I do not think that story is made up, and the deeper I look, the more I find.

On the internet? Imagine that.

[danzig]

This must be part of his indepth research he keeps talking about, hey wait I thought it was just zionist not jews themselves you have a problem with since there is no point to this thread or post....

[tree151]

Oh, yes, the jews already got what almost all the world think they deserved, and that's the halocaust. Long, endless years of hatered from every corner, mass genocides of these people, and most people don't even care. people like you even think that was not enough! I would want to see each and every one of you people who think they would just keep it in they're hearts if they're family was murdered by pure hatered. I would like to see each and every one of those people sustain themselves properly while enduring constant blames and hatered. And I still do not understand why you people think the jews deserved it. The jews came to you and beat you up? The jews killed your mother? I don't think so. If those jews requested money for they're loss of family in the halocaust, it's not becsue they took they're pistols and shot they're families, it's becuse other people they don't even know came to them and shot they're families. The jews settled in Israel and began fighting the arabs becuse of the halocaust, but still it's the jews fault that there are wars in the world.

[gojira]

Oh, yes, the jews already got what almost all the world think they deserved, and that's the halocaust. Long, endless years of hatered from every corner, mass genocides of these people, and most people don't even care. people like you even think that was not enough! I would want to see each and every one of you people who think they would just keep it in they're hearts if they're family was murdered by pure hatered. I would like to see each and every one of those people sustain themselves properly while enduring constant blames and hatered. And I still do not understand why you people think the jews deserved it. The jews came to you and beat you up? The jews killed your mother? I don't think so. If those jews requested money for they're loss of family in the halocaust, it's not becsue they took they're pistols and shot they're families, it's becuse other people they don't even know came to them and shot they're families. The jews settled in Israel and began fighting the arabs becuse of the halocaust, but still it's the jews fault that there are wars in the world.

1) My point is, that the alleged holocaust is used as a tool to make money.
2) I wanna personally thank you to bring an "emotional note" into this thread- killed mothers, raped elders, - thats the stuff needed to spice dry topics as this a bit up isnt it?
3) I nowhere stated someone deserved anything, I stated the contrast: Someone isnt deserving something here

4) And to answer ur questions highly important for this thread:

No, jews didnt kill my mother
No, jews didnt beat me up

If u are fine, that any filthy lawer can suit a case to make some money based on the alleged suffering of a minority some 70 years ago (how many of them live still?), its your right to have this opinion (i know where ya coming from out of various threads by now).

The rest of the cold headed people stay regarding the thing as what it is:
Pathetic.

[gojira]

The holocaust as a historical event will be dealt with when its time for it. But what I can say is, that most of the "elders", most of the jewish religious leaders died in WW2 by various reasons, and that not a single religious leader (Rabbi) demanded palestine.

This thread is about hoodlums and money scammers.
I hope you understand (not meant cynical in any way).

Goji

[Zephyrus]

Oh, yes, the jews already got what almost all the world think they deserved, and that's the halocaust. Long, endless years of hatered from every corner, mass genocides of these people, and most people don't even care. people like you even think that was not enough! I would want to see each and every one of you people who think they would just keep it in they're hearts if they're family was murdered by pure hatered. I would like to see each and every one of those people sustain themselves properly while enduring constant blames and hatered. And I still do not understand why you people think the jews deserved it. The jews came to you and beat you up? The jews killed your mother? I don't think so. If those jews requested money for they're loss of family in the halocaust, it's not becsue they took they're pistols and shot they're families, it's becuse other people they don't even know came to them and shot they're families. The jews settled in Israel and began fighting the arabs becuse of the halocaust, but still it's the jews fault that there are wars in the world.

Heh, i grew up in an impoverished ghetto. Jokes on you there, dude.

[boofhead]

Well, considering the value of human life is priceless, perhaps any monetary figure awarded to Jewish people by the US should subtract infinity dollars for every US soldier killed during the defeat of the Nazis and the liberation of the camps.

I'd say the Jews owe the US, not the other way around.

The greedy .

[boofhead]

Don't start denying the holocaust now. The thread already has a point.

[gojira]

The thread´s topic is not the credibility of the holocaust. This one here is about makin´money.

[boofhead]

The thread´s topic is not the credibility of the holocaust. This one here is about makin´money.

Yes, and I agree with you that suing the US for sacrificing thousands of lives in crushing the Nazis and liberating the Jews is greed and ungratefulness exemplified. The litigious bastards should be flogged.

[tree151]

If u are fine, that any filthy lawer can suit a case to make some money based on the alleged suffering of a minority some 70 years ago (how many of them live still?), its your right to have this opinion (i know where ya coming from out of various threads by now).

my grandmother, for instance, is a halocaust survivor. her brother and her dad were killed by nazis. You don't need books to check if something is true. but you also can't just sit and claim something is not true. if you want to realy know something, then research it. then your claims could be true.

And no, I do not support human life having a cost. but nothing will bring the life of the people killed in the halocaust, and as I know, almost all halocaust survivors were left with nothing after the war. they needed the money. But yes, you sure can't go and demand billions out of every company that you find, but it was just for them to accept the money from the governments to repay for they're loss of both humans life and they're property.

Heh, i grew up in an impoverished ghetto. Jokes on you there, dude. :wink:

Oh, yes, of course. You didn't eat have pizza when you were little. woah, that's horrible!

[Visna]

@Eldar: U might find it unbelievable, but I just thought bout u. 1 person is still missing and we got the forum´s zionists all together =)

Awww, you thought of me? How moving.

Lemme tell ya somethin:

the first guy tried to discredit the story, the second guy tried to make it something emotional (killed families ´n stuff) and the third guy tried to trap me by denying the holocaust.

Why should I fall into your trap now? Come up with somethin´better.

I'm not trying to lay a trap, I'm simply asking a very legitimate question regarding your views on the Holocaust. I do so based on your own words, here are the parts I personally found interesting.

My point is, that the alleged holocaust is used as a tool to make money.

the alleged suffering of a minority some 70 years ago (how many of them live still?)

and even the much venerated "Diary of Anne Frank" has come under suspicion for a wide variety of reasons

Theres no business like Shoahbusiness

See how nice I can be? I've even highlighted them. But like I said, I'll take a debate with you anytime regarding the Holocaust, be it in the VV section or the Fight Club. All you have to do is open a thread or issue a challenge. So go for it.

[Visna]

Into Holocaust denial as well, eh?
I would never have guessed...
If you want to debate it further, post a thread in the VV section, and I'm sure people (myself included) will be quite delighted to shred your "findings" to pieces.

On topic. Meh, so what if some lawyer want to sue the US. The tricky part is that I guess he would have to prove that the Allies had full knowledge of what was going on in the death camps and elsewhere in the occupied territories in eastern Europe as early as 1944.
Good luck proving that, Mr. Wolz.

[gojira]

@tree: Its spelled "H-O-L-O-C-A-U-S-T", not "halocaust". As u used that term 3 times now, I am glad I could help ya. Ask your grandma, she´ll admit I am right here (no I didnt look it up yet, but I am sure its spelled the way I tell ya)

@Eldar: U might find it unbelievable, but I just thought bout u. 1 person is still missing and we got the forum´s zionists all together =)

Lemme tell ya somethin:

the first guy tried to discredit the story, the second guy tried to make it something emotional (killed families ´n stuff) and the third guy tried to trap me by denying the holocaust.

Why should I fall into your trap now? Come up with somethin´better.

See ya mate, gotta go now. But I am really curious