Principate Total War

**luke_liddle** · February 12, 2009, 11:54 AM

Hi, im new here and this is my idea for a RTW mod.

Principate Total War

AD 10- AD 192
Europe/North Africa/Middle East

The Roman Principate has existed for nearly 40 years, carefully centralizing power whist retaining a republican facade. The 73 year old Princeps Augustus, adopted son of Gaius Julius Caesar is nearing the end of his life. Roman territory encompassed Italy, Gaul, Africa, Egypt, Greece, Iberia and Asia Minor. But the invinciblity has been shattered. Just one year ago, three legions under Varus were slaughtered at Teutoburg Forest by the German Arminius. The conquest of Germania has been brought rapidly to a halt and now other states bordering on Roman lands think of war.
To the East, Pontus and Armenia are poised to attack Asia Minor, and retake their old homelands. The Parthian Empire has been subdued temporarily by a peace treaty, but they are as changeable as the wind and will strike at any time.
North of Gaul, across the sea lays Brittania. Not much is known about this land, except that it is rich with metals and inhabited by vicious barbarians.
Take control of Rome and expand your already huge borders or play as the British and break out of your island home. Play as the German Tribes and continue to decimate the legions who dare to invade your land. Play as Parthia and conquer the Judeans who ally themselves with Rome before taking the Roman lands themselves.

Faction List.
Julii- Roman Principate
Brutii-?
Scipii- ?
Britons- British Tribes
Germania- Germanic Tribes (Frisians, Cherusci, Teutons, Chatti)
Gaul- ?
Spain-?
Numidia- the Kingdom of Nabatea
Dacia- the Kingdom of Dacia
Seleucids- the Kingdom of Osroene
Egypt- the Tetrarchy of Judea
Carthage-the Kingdom of Mauretiania
Scythia-?
Thrace- the Kingdom of Thracia
Parthia- the Parthian Empire
Armenia- the Kingdom of Armenia
Pontus- the Kingdom of Pontus
Macedon the Bosporan Kingdom
Slaves- Independent States
Greeks-?
Senate-?

Ideas-

The Roman Principate Family tree will be split in two.

One half is the Imperial Family, descended from Augustus

The other half are the politicians, dividided into various sub-families

Faction Leader (deceased) is Julius Caesar, succeeded by his adoptive son, and also by the politicians.
In my opinion this would be be the best way to simulate the reality of the period.

Questions-

Would it be possible to recruit generals with native features?

For example, the Romans recruit a general in Judea, with the name Herod and Judean traits. I think the traits part could be done through ethnic traits

Would it be possible to utilize the loyalty system and tie it to one man (faction leader)? This could work well if 2 leaders were different ie- Nero Drusus is loyal to Augustus because he is is stepson. But he is disloyal to the next FL Tiberius because Tiberius was picked as heir instead of Drusus' own son Germanicus.

Help Needed-

To forward the mod and accellerated the speed that it is finished, I will need help. If anyone can volunteer to create a new map or model units that would be amazing. I also need help with research, especially for the non-Roman factions.

Thanks for reading this!

**Conqistador** · February 12, 2009, 12:33 PM

looks like an Federations TW... lol good idea man... srry i'm too newby so i can't help... gl man

**luke_liddle** · February 13, 2009, 03:15 PM

after editing the descr_strat and condesing a few provinces into one (Egypt and Sicilia), I attempted to load the game but got kicked to the menu with the following message:

does anyone know what this problem is and how to resolve it?

thanks in advance for any help

**★Bandiera Rossa☭** · February 13, 2009, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by luke_liddle

after editing the descr_strat and condesing a few provinces into one (Egypt and Sicilia), I attempted to load the game but got kicked to the menu with the following message:

does anyone know what this problem is and how to resolve it?

thanks in advance for any help

looks more like an EDU problem...

**Conqistador** · February 17, 2009, 11:04 AM

i think it's an unit problem in descr_strat, you've requested an exp that is impossible...

**Finch** · February 17, 2009, 07:58 PM

i thinks its in the export_desc_building.txt for max exp is 9 armour 3 weapon level 3

**Zenith Darksea** · February 18, 2009, 04:29 AM

Can I just point out that Pontus didn't exist under the Principate? Pompey divided it up into eleven constitutional regions and turned the whole lot into a Roman Province in 63/2 BC.

Perhaps Scythia could be used as a Sarmatian faction?

**luke_liddle** · February 18, 2009, 08:16 AM

Pontus did exist, but as a client kingdom of Rome, the same as Mauretania and the Judean Tetrarchy. These client states are in the game as a sort of buffer between the Romans and the other factions so that a Roman Player cannot expand as quick and a non-roman player cannot directly attack Rome as easily.

Here are 2 of the family trees in the game- The House of Herod and the Kingdom of Mauretania.

**luke_liddle** · March 01, 2009, 01:46 PM

ROMAN TROOP ROSTER

Level 1 -
Vigiles (Watchmen of the City)
Gallic Tribesmen (Barbarian Auxiliaries) - AOR GAUL
Roman Auxiliaries (Light Spearmen)
Scythian Archers (Barbarian Steppe Auxiliaries) - AOR SCYTHIA

If a decent map maker could kindly help me create a map, I would be most pleased. PM me or ask here for details.
Level 2 -
Equites Maurorum (Mauretanian Cavalry Auxiliaries) - AOR MAURETANIA
Equites Hispanorum (Iberian Cavalry Auxilaries) - AOR IBERIA
Equites Thracium (Thracian Cavalry Auxiliaries) - AOR THRACE
Eastern Archers (Archers from the Eastern Provinces) - AOR SYRIA and JUDEA

Level 3 -
Equites Singulares (Hand Picked Generals Bodyguard)
Equites Gallorum (Allied Gallic Medium Cavalry) - AOR GAUL
Equites Germanorum (Allied German Medium Cavalry) AOR GERMANIA
Legionary Cohort (Roman Legionary Cohort) - AOR ITALY/PROVINCES GRANTED CITIZENSHIP
Ballistae (Arrow Firing Artillery)
Scorpions (Bolt Firing Artillery)

Level 4 -
Evocati (Re-enlisted Legionarh Cohort) - AOR PROVINCES/ ROME
Praetorian Cohort (Imperial Guardsmen) - AOR ROME
Equites Praetoriani (Mounted Imperial Guardsmen) AOR ROME
Onagers (Stone Throwing Seige Equiptment)
Polybolos (Automatic Bolt Firing Artillery)
Carroballistea (Carriage Mounted Arrow Firing Artillery)

Level 5 -
Evocati Augusti (Re-enlisted Imperial Guardsmen)
Equites Evocati Augusti (Re-enlisted Imperial Guard Horsemen)