Anti-facists target facist in violent mugging (Sweden)

[Beanbee]

http://www.thelocal.se/17502/20090211/

I hate extremists on either side. You can't act above the law just because you don't agree with it. Unfortunately were dealing with Swedish police here who have an aweful arrest rate but these guys are braisenly admiting to their broad-daylight crime. I believe they need to be punished swiftly before both sides start cracking skulls over this.

Questions:
Are their actions justified?
How servely should they be punished given their gloating as well as their motivation?

Go! Try not to fight it out Facism/Anti-facism.

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

No political affiliation does not give someone the right to mug another.

[Zephyrus]

"Only in europe."

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

"Only in europe."

Fascism is a valid ideology. But so are others.

[Zephyrus]

Fascism is a valid ideology. But so are others.

It is, but when you bring that up people tend to think of Mussolini and hitler and all the other bad actions that get associated with the word. Western propaganda ftl!

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

It is, but when you bring that up people tend to think of Mussolini and hitler and all the other bad actions that get associated with the word. Western propaganda ftl!

the same thing with the word nazi. They are political systems. The racism were just added to them..

[Zephyrus]

the same thing with the word nazi. They are political systems. The racism were just added to them..

...I'm going to go take out my frustration on a republican now.

[Fibur]

the same thing with the word nazi. They are political systems. The racism were just added to them..

No.
Racism/antisemitism is a key concept of nazism. This is a racist totalitarian ideology.
Fascism, though also totalitarian, is not automatically racist.

[IrishHitman]

"Only in europe."

Go to a GOP meeting in the Deep South, and state that you're a socialist.
We'll put that little "only in Europe" remark to the test, shall we?

[Beanbee]

Jeez, I said don't go into facism vs. anti-facism. You all suck! Lets keep it on topic

[Adar]

It's labeled as "attempted murder" by the police not mugging. He was beaten with bats and stabbed in the arm.

Swedish extremism is becoming really hard to understand nowadays... A bunch of swedish upper middleclass brats start beating up a guy named Vavra Suk and then call it antirasism.

And btw. The national democrats aren't facists. They are the "lets turn the whole world into a gigantic zoo party". Basicly they want to maintain all cultures in the world by keeping them located in their own nations. Apart from that they are the usual semi-nostalgic social democrats with a few token libertian ideas.

[ivan_the_terrible]

I understand the need for rule of law, but I find it hard to sympathise with fascists.

[Ahlerich]

poor hatemongers got abused again.

no tears from here though

[Haakon]

Anti-facists are fascist themselves. They are just too stupid to see the irony.

[Antagonist88]

Anti-facists are fascist themselves. They are just too stupid to see the irony.

exactly!

[danzig]

Why on earth would it be justified? Attacking people is attacking people regardless of political belief.

[Barry Goldwater]

Hm, a bunch of 'antifascists' violently attacking someone for their political opinion...the irony here is razor sharp. Maybe the antifascists can put up a serious defense for their actions, after they've stopped the bleeding

[antares24]

Why on earth would it be justified? Attacking people is attacking people regardless of political belief.

exactly.

Anti-facists are fascist themselves. They are just too stupid to see the irony.

eh i too always find this really true and hironic.

[SorelusImperion]

It's a common theme that the most vocal anti-facists all too often behave like facists.

It's a common theme that those who manage to say something like the sentence I quoted above all to often consider fascism a "viable ideology" yet know so little of Fascism that they think it is only violence against political enemys.
I know someone who would be proud of you.
Hurray Totalitarianism

I understand the need for rule of law, but I find it hard to sympathise with fascists.

poor hatemongers got abused again.

no tears from here though

[sdomi_cabsav@Hotmail]

Ha yea i was thinking how ridiculously ironic this case is as well.