Madness or could it work?

[DekuTrash]

First off, sorry if it's in the wrong section.



Ok so today in our politics class we held an open forum an the issue of illegal immigration dominated the session. As you would expect the class split into to camps of pro and anti illegal. Now the one "solution" that one guy put up was what really got people going.

He mainly targeted the agricultural part of the economy and stated how most of the people working in this industry are illegals. And went about comparing the number of homeless Americans and illegals (obviously all illegals dont work in agriculture ).

Now his solution was to simply toss illegals out and replace them with homeless citizens, now what I had trouble with is that he proposed that the government build housing for them ON the farmlands, uh indentured servants? I'm probably way off on that, Im sure someone could clear that up. So that was pretty much it, Get the homeless off the streets and into housing on farmlands where they could collect pay and become mainstream citizens. He also said how the current US economic crisis only furthers the cause to get rid of people living here illegally.
As always I sat in the back the whole time and said nothing

So what do you think? Personally I think that would cost way to much to do.

[GuineaPig]

Well, in an ideal world where homeless people were just good, hard working people down on there luck that idea would work. I've thought about it before; the principle is roughly the same as military recruitment during wars.

However, a lot of homeless are alcoholics or drug abusers, and those that aren't would still need a lot of retraining, not to mention a complete change of mindset to adapt successfully to a rural lifestyle. Especially because making a living is becoming increasingly difficult for farmers, not to mention the difficulties for brand new farmers with less land and assets.

[DekuTrash]

Man if only I coulda said that!

[Quadratus]

Madness.

Although I do support keeping illegals out of this country (i don't care what there excuse is for coming to the US). If they want to work they get here legally, if we don't have enough labor force, hire the unemployed (there's plenty nowadays), and make them work.

[DekuTrash]

yup, I'm sure the hundreds of thousands of Americans now unemployed wouldn't exactly like doing menial jobs, but if it ment keeping their house,feeding their family's etc. I'm sure they would do it.

[Quadratus]

yup, I'm sure the hundreds of thousands of Americans now unemployed wouldn't exactly like doing menial jobs, but if it ment keeping their house,feeding their family's etc. I'm sure they would do it.

They'd have to if there's no one else to hire them.

[boofhead]

The idea doesn't seem to far-fetched to me, although many homeless are homeless due to mental illness or drug abuse problems and may not be the best employees.

BTW what sort of a person is 'pro-illegal'? That's just ing retarded. I can understand pro-immigration, but 'pro-illegal'?

[DekuTrash]

The idea doesn't seem to far-fetched to me, although many homeless are homeless due to mental illness or drug abuse problems and may not be the best employees.

BTW what sort of a person is 'pro-illegal'? That's just ing retarded. I can understand pro-immigration, but 'pro-illegal'?

The best definition most people come up with is being pro-amnesty from what i've heard/

[Zephyrus]

The idea doesn't seem to far-fetched to me, although many homeless are homeless due to mental illness or drug abuse problems and may not be the best employees.

BTW what sort of a person is 'pro-illegal'? That's just ing retarded. I can understand pro-immigration, but 'pro-illegal'?

Well, someone seems to be angry today!

Doesn't stop your dead-on ability to sum up the situation we find ourselves in now. Government needs reform. So far, they are running around not holding the interests of the people as their primary agenda.

[Quadratus]

Well, someone seems to be angry today!

Doesn't stop your dead-on ability to sum up the situation we find ourselves in now. Government needs reform. So far, they are running around not holding the interests of the people as their primary agenda.

Care to elaborate what government/administration?

[eddy_purpus]

First off, sorry if it's in the wrong section.



Ok so today in our politics class we held an open forum an the issue of illegal immigration dominated the session. As you would expect the class split into to camps of pro and anti illegal. Now the one "solution" that one guy put up was what really got people going.

He mainly targeted the agricultural part of the economy and stated how most of the people working in this industry are illegals. And went about comparing the number of homeless Americans and illegals (obviously all illegals dont work in agriculture ).

Now his solution was to simply toss illegals out and replace them with homeless citizens, now what I had trouble with is that he proposed that the government build housing for them ON the farmlands, uh indentured servants? I'm probably way off on that, Im sure someone could clear that up. So that was pretty much it, Get the homeless off the streets and into housing on farmlands where they could collect pay and become mainstream citizens. He also said how the current US economic crisis only furthers the cause to get rid of people living here illegally.
As always I sat in the back the whole time and said nothing

So what do you think? Personally I think that would cost way to much to do.

I hae probably heard about that before....
ummm
S L A V E R Y ?
IN the 1700s and up ?
yep... that would be it...
and what is he thinking about doing that to homeless persons..
This is a free coutnry ... not HIs ing Mansion with servants who provide him with food and .

[Quadratus]

I hae probably heard about that before....
ummm
S L A V E R Y ?
IN the 1700s and up ?
yep... that would be it...
and what is he thinking about doing that to homeless persons..
This is a free coutnry ... not HIs ing Mansion with servants who provide him with food and .

Read your sig.

[eddy_purpus]

Read your sig.

Are you saying that my head is up my ass ?
or the other dumb SLAVERY GUY ?

[Quadratus]

Are you saying that my head is up my ass ?
or the other dumb SLAVERY GUY ?

That's exactly what I'm saying.

He wasn't promoting slavery, he was saying that homeless people have nothing else better to do, so build them houses on the land so they can work, after all they are homeless.

[DekuTrash]

I don't think he meant they have to stay there all the time.

[Beanbee]

Yes, lets replace one abused section of society with another to abuse. Yippy! How about we all spend £15 extra on our weekly shop so everyone working agriculture can earn a decent pay.

[Quadratus]

Or get off our ass's and grow our own food.

I'm seriously considering doing that, since it's cheaper.

[DekuTrash]

Community Gardens!

Unfortunately many people are lazy bastards

[Quadratus]

Community Gardens!

Unfortunately many people are lazy bastards

Indeed, especially in America.

[DekuTrash]

Well.....they do exist and I've heard nothing but good things on how people reduce cost in their monthly food bill. Heck I'll build me a wheat mill and buy a couple hens. I've heard on the news that they're actually starting to pop up in many places here in Colorado which is a start.