[FAILED 02/21/09] [Civitate] Rebel6666 (Patron: Heinz Guderian)

**Augustus Lucifer** · February 11, 2009, 06:06 PM

Client: Rebel6666
Hi TWC members,

Yes I would like to become a Citizen. First of all I will present myself; I have been a good TWC member for two years now. I was born in Canada, in the Québec province; I’m bilingual in French and English. I’m thirty-one years old, have two kids and a wife. I’ve been playing TW games since Rome came out up till now.

There is two one reasons why I want to become a Citizen, the first one is because I would like to contribute more to the forum, I think this forum is great, fun and very helpful with games but also in a lot of other aspects like personnel help, modding, the TWC University, the Wiki, Scriptorium and more….

My second reason is a bit in the same way as the first my one; I would like to become a Junior Moderator to help clean the board from bad members and spammers, for example; advertisers that comes on the forum just to promote porn sites or other. I would like to help this board.

Now I need to show you what I did for TWC, or I should say for its members. In the two years I’ve been here, I have helped a lot of people / members with all of the in game aspects of RTW and even more with M2TW. I have help members on multiple ways like;

Welcoming new members on the TWC, by letting them know via visitor’s messages that if they need anything or have any questions, they could PM me I would be glad to help.

I’m helping a RPG multiplayer game as in Kingmaker being a Local Moderator and keeping that part of the forum dust free.

I have also helped members start their AAR’s. Here are two examples;

1- Poland from ManOnFire

2- Russia from Sub-Zero

I have helped a lot of members with questions regarding anything that was within the game, game play, tactics and more…. This is what I have been doing for two years now. Here in The M2TW Discussions forum is where I have spent and still spending a lot of time helping other members.

I’m also an active member of the PS3 and Silver Aux. social groups. I have also helped members in the Personnel help part of this forum and I’m always opened to help anyone that needs help and if I can’t help them I will find someone that can.

I have also supported Guy a member here that is well known, on one of his projects for the Wiki part of this forum. I would like to give you the link to the work I’ve done for him but because I’m not Wiki Staff I don’t have access, you could ask him.

Regarding helping others I have made a couple of guides which turned out to be very much appreciated by new members but also by old timers and veteran players of Total War games. I have worked a lot of hours on theses guides, which I must say that I’m very happy of. All of my guides were appreciated enough by everyone that someone from Senior Staff as suggested to me to put them all in one thread.

This being said here is the link to my guide thread Great M2TW Informative Thread. This work of mine is probably what you would take into more account; this guide is also been added in the Scriptorium by Power Wizard. I have also added guides form other members to make it a really greater thread.

Finally, I would like to say thanks to all of you for taking the time, as we all know time is important to read and look the work I’ve done.

Regards
Rebel6666

Patron: Heinz Guderian
Dear CdeC members. I would like to put forward Rebel6666 for patronisation. If i could change the font of this forward, i would, but alas, i dont know how.

Rebel has been known to me for a while and is what i believe great citizen material. He is a great contributor (continuously for 2 years) and has helped many n00bs (such as myself) to enhance their gaming experience of RTW and M2TW.

He has written the brilliant Great M2TW Informative Thread and is a major poster in the M2TW forums. He has helped many new players with technical issues, tips, information and introductions to the varied assortments of mods. He has written an inumerable number of Guides and is a great reviewer of mods and other titles.

If you are not sure about something concerning how to play RTW or M2TW, he is the go to guy. I feel elevating him to our ranks would greatly benefit TWC and will encourage Rebel to contribute even more.

Please remember, he has continuously contributed for more than 2 years now. I believe he deserves his chance to become a member. He is the kind of member we need to help the influx of new members who will no doubt play ETW. I am sure Rebel will give us many more years of uninterrupted contribution

Thanks

**Augustus Lucifer** · February 11, 2009, 06:32 PM

Going to have to really look into this one. The 'Great Informative Thread' is.. fairly informative, more so by the compilation of other users guides as well. From what I remember it went fairly unchanged for quite some time, and he consistently preached it every time a Citizenship question came up in the Q&S.

There's no doubt he wants to help and be a Citizen, but he hasn't gone about it the best of ways. I won't hold that against him if the contributions are there, but I do wonder about the assertions of E:TW guides being produced, since as I stated from when I looked at his guide thread during Q&S discussions it went largely unchanged since 06/07.

Will have to look into it more...

**Necrobrit** · February 12, 2009, 11:38 AM

I find his ambition to be a citizen to be a bit over the top, but he seems keen to contribute. A yes from me.

**Pontifex Maximus** · February 16, 2009, 08:29 PM

Good contributions. A yes.

**Soulghast** · February 17, 2009, 02:45 AM

Err, no. Insufficient contributions, questionable attitude.

The AAR's he says he helped with cannot really be considered a contribution, as they were written by other authors, and the amount of "helping" he actually did cannot be verified.

Now, on his "Great Informative Thread", I certainly consider it a contribution, a good one, but it doesn't seem to be enough, also considering the fact that it focuses on specific parts of the game, vassals for example, while leaving out other important parts of the game. It also isn't that well written, as there are plenty of grammatical errors.

He also regularly tries to help people out with their in-game problems, and while that is commendable, and a good contribution, the way he advertises his thread and links to it all the time, even consistently asking for rep in return when he helps someone leaves a bit of a sour taste in my mouth.

Now, on his attitude, he has been pursuing citizenship, and in progress, moderatorship, as can be seen by his paragraph, many times, PMing people (including me) asking for patronage. quite persistently. When Senior Staff refused to patronise him, he reacted quite badly, opening a thread to publicly whine. He also exhibited inappropriate behaviour, in the extent that GED had to moderate him, from this post and onwards.

I will repeat what I've told him a thousand times. He should try to limit spamming, work on his attitude a bit, try to join a branch of content staff, or try to write some more, better gaming guides, as he appears to be a good MTW2 player, with a lot of knowledge on the game. But in my opinion, conferring citizenship at this point would be a grave error.

**Augustus Lucifer** · February 17, 2009, 06:29 AM

I said I'd give it my consideration and I have, went through all of the parts of his guide, looked into the M2TW GD posts, and just tried to look at it in general without considering the poor way he has gone about the process.

With the guide, it's helpful, but it isn't anything extraordinary. If it was going to be the sole focus of patronization, it would need to be on par with frostbeastegg's guides, and it falls far short. The guide is split into 18 segments as of this time:

- 7/18 are not written by Rebel6666
- 1/18 looks to be empty due to formatting reasons
- 3/18 are freely available information (How to Unlock all Factions, two guild parts: A Guide to Guilds)
- 2/18 are borrowed in that they are just descriptions of mods with links
- 5/18 which comprises the rest of them, look more like extended discussion posts in a topic than they do a comprehensive guide

All in all, the guide is only a guide by virtue of having so many things in it. The individual parts are not that impressive, and as Soulghast points out, the formatting needs work. I won't rescind my statement issued before about it not changing when I last looked, but I will say positively that since the Q&S thread, it has received quite a few updates.

With the AARs, I don't really consider advising another user a contribution. If it was an AAR that drew a bunch of people to the site that'd be one thing, but most AARs aren't, and certainly not the two linked to. And with Kingmaker, I'd consider being Local Moderator a contribution if there was a lot of unruly behavior to curtail or just a mass of activity to monitor. However compared to God Save the King! (29,500 posts) and You Are the Senate! (23,500 posts), which I'd probably consider, Kingmaker with only 329 posts(45 of which are Rebel's own posts) isn't even a dot on the activity map.

He can be a helpful guy some of the time, but this is also counteracted by attitude problems he has other times. All in all, he's a good member of the community, but not ready for Citizenship yet. If he comes back in a month or two with more quantifiable contributions, he'll receive my consideration once more for reaching that bar he's pining for.

But for right now, with the current resume, it's a no from me.

**Fabolous** · February 17, 2009, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Soulghast

I will repeat what I've told him a thousand times. He should try to limit spamming, work on his attitude a bit, try to join a branch of content staff, or try to write some more, better gaming guides, as he appears to be a good MTW2 player, with a lot of knowledge on the game. But in my opinion, conferring citizenship at this point would be a grave error.

Agreed. Especially on the working on the attitude part.

**Captain Blackadder** · February 17, 2009, 06:32 AM

I agree with Soulghast anyone who reacts to good advice by going to the forums and whining is not worthy of citizenship in my mind. If he went into content staff or wrote more guides then he would get in for sure. But as it stands he shows a poor attitude I should know I am similar to him I got rejected for citizenship instead of whining like him I became a member of content staff and then became a citizen all he has to do is the same.