Kazakhstan, is it a canidate for the EU?

[Son of Mao]

I am not EU, but I think EU is interesting and I am interested in how you decide who is European enough to join it. I am wondering if Kazakhstan has a chance of joining NATO since it lies partially on the European continent?


Edit: If I sound outrageous it is only cause I do not understand please help me understand.

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

Is this some kind of joke thread? Even Turkey doesn't stand a chance to join and everybody knows it.

[Son of Mao]

Is this some kind of joke thread?

No

[Barry Goldwater]

Edited Spam

But in all seriousness, Kazakhstan isn't even in Europe, how the is it supposed to join the EU? I mean, at least Turkey has a piece of land in Europe, but Kazakhstan?

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

No

Well then, I don't think Kazakhstan will ever join the EU or ever join it in the near future (20-30 years).

The EU has to deal with the Balkan candidates first (Croatia, Macedonia, maybe the other Balkan states), and see that this region is consolidated economically, financially and politically.

Then there are the EFTA states (Iceland, Norway, Switzerland) who will probably join the EU within the next 10 years, as it is one of the main objectives of these governments.

The so-called "Eastern Partnership States" (Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus, Georgia, Kazakhstan) will be hard to deal with for various reasons. First off, these are undeveloped states compared to other European countries. They have to work hard even to file an application. Secondly, they are under Russian influence / Russia is interested in these territories in one way or another, so the EU has to settle with Russia about these countries.

There are two borderlines of Europe: the political/cultural one, and the geographical one. Kazakhstan belongs to geographical Europe, but not the political/cultural one. Just like Turkey. Hence they won't join the EU.

[aarons got funky fresh]

I highly doubt it right now. MAYBE in like 50 years when the EU's borders have expanded will it be a candidate.

[pwf224]

I doubt it will ever become part of the EU.

[Son of Mao]

Where is the Political/Cultural border of Europe? I thought that I read that Turkey was at least on track to join a European Union?

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

Where is the Political/Cultural border of Europe? I thought that I read that Turkey was at least on track to join a European Union?

That's always disputed, but I'd stick to the spread of Western Christianity.

[Yorkshireman]

Where is the Political/Cultural border of Europe? I thought that I read that Turkey was at least on track to join a European Union?

Copenhagen criteria for entry into EU.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenha...aphic_criteria

Morocco applied and was refused entry into the EC in 1987 due to its geographical location.

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

Copenhagen criteria for entry into EU.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenha...aphic_criteria

Yes, that's the official bullcrap. If human rights would really be a criteria, Romania couldn't join.

[Yorkshireman]

Yes, that's the official bullcrap. If human rights would really be a criteria, Romania couldn't join.

Thats true.

There used to be very strict economic standards to reach also and I can't believe some of these new or proposed member states have reached them.

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

Thats true.

There used to be very strict economic standards to reach also and I can't believe some of these new or proposed member states have reached them.

True.
Not to mention the strict convergence criteria that are serially unfulfilled by Western European countries as well. How is a country like Kazakhstan supposed to fulfill those criteria if it is practically broke and can't keep the national debt or the inflation under control? I don't know...

[ShockBlast]

Yes, that's the official bullcrap. If human rights would really be a criteria, Romania couldn't join.

Romania gave the biggest autonomy in the entire EU.

You guys are still killing romanian handbal players?

[Adrian]

In the future i hope the Eu wont just assimilate European states every country in partial proximity to the current EU borders has the change to join so yes north africa egypt middle east georgia your country ukraine belarus etc will serve as good practice by the EU before they assimilate big countries.



So yes im a proponent of EU expansion outside of Europe all people should have the right to live in a civilized stable environment and the EU gives stability and advancement in the full.

[Tiwaz]

So yes im a proponent of EU expansion outside of Europe all people should have the right to live in a civilized stable environment and the EU gives stability and advancement in the full.

Ah yes, right to live in nice, stable, wealthy environment without working, or having your former generations work, for it.

Grand.

There is no "right" to live in anything. EU is not there to give candy and money to everyone who desires.

Nation must show more pro than con sides to it's membership to join. It is not free ride and lots of cash for everyone. As it is, some states have been borderline. And some suggestions for new members are way into the deep end of con side.

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

Overgeneralization, overgeneralization, overgeneralization.

You guys forget that European politicians make the final decisions, and they all belong to one party or another, one nation or another. There are a lot of different perspectives, interests and plans, each country to join is a different case, and states are judged one by one.

[removeduser_487563287433]

I am not EU, but I think EU is interesting and I am interested in how you decide who is European enough to join it. I am wondering if Kazakhstan has a chance of joining NATO since it lies partially on the European continent?


Edit: If I sound outrageous it is only cause I do not understand please help me understand.

No chance at all. It would enrage Russia and bring very little to either the EU or NATO.

[ivan_the_terrible]

Kazakhstan in the EU - that'll be the day!

[rusina]

I am not EU

Me neither.