Does Isreal really need our help?

[ELITEOFKINGWARMAN8]

What is everyone's thought about this? Some people think they can take care of their own people, but I disargee. You can't a nation that 6.5 million people to fight off their enemies who outnumber them by god knows how many?

[Ahlerich]

should israel get our help i find a better question.

[fieldmarshal]

Israel will always get help from the US no matter what. At the same time, the US needs to use this as leverage to pressure Israel to make peace with the Palestinians. I mean America is the only nation that the Israel's listen to.

[gojira]

An illegal, war crime comitting, UN resolution ignoring, apartheid regime that´s a nuclear power aswell, doesnt need help.

Israel needs a trial at the hague.

[Strattios]

I say three things. First; Israel does need support from the West. Both militarily and economically. Israel is capable of surviving and winning small wars with its immediate neighbors, however, if there ever was an earnest combined effort against Israel in which the West didn't support Israel the outcome would be bleak. Not only the nation be destroyed, but many of the Jewish inhabitants would most likely be killed or severely punished and discriminated against.

The second is that we (specifically the US) need to maintain a strong supportive relationship with Israel and now Iraq as being the most stable nations in the middle east that are also the most cooperative with the West.

Finally the regards to Israel's behavior. While many accuse Israel of doing bad, I don't believe that to be the case. Israel is a nation that is struggling to survive as it is. Most of the accusations being thrown at Israel are either bogus or opinion based. The UN recently apologized to Israel for accusing them of purposely attacking UN sponsored schools when it was proven that Hamas was using the schools as mortar bases. Then an example of nonsensical opinion based is the idea the they most be evil because they are ignoring the UN. "Oh no, what will happen now that Israel has chosen to ignore a corrupt organization that cares nothing for the well being of the Israeli people!"

[Captain Arrrgh!]

An illegal, war crime comitting, UN resolution ignoring, apartheid regime that´s a nuclear power aswell, doesnt need help.

Israel needs a trial at the hague.

Well written.

[Ahlerich]

Israel will always get help from the US no matter what. At the same time, the US needs to use this as leverage to pressure Israel to make peace with the Palestinians. I mean America is the only nation that the Israel's listen to.

i thought thats true vice versa because the american wannabe presidents always need to tickle the jews on their balls a bit so they have a chance of beeing elected

Without assistance from the mother nations, the child will suffer.

maybe it stops beeing such a spoiled brat then

[Rush Limbaugh]

No it does not. We are all thats saving Palestine Without us Israel would be forced to really fight and would have taken over half the ME IMO.

[Primvs Sextvs Loverlord]

Israel is, after all, the illegitimate child of the UK, US and the West in general. The answer is yes, it does need their help. After all, when the Zionists wiped Palestine off the map, it upset a lot of neighboring countries who are still hostile to the ever-expanding occupiers. Without assistance from the mother nations, the child will suffer.

[tree151]

Well, of course Israel needs support. it's not easy figting billions of people, while also dodging blames from people who never saw this conflict. I didn't hear of one nations who just became hostile to everyone and survived until today. of course, there are some who became hostile to the world recently, and I'm sure that without support they will fall too.

Oh, yes, people here who say "we should not give support" and everything, no one expects you to give support. no one wants forced and spoiled support. but it's not you that will help, but countries that are willing.

[fieldmarshal]

Israel is, after all, the illegitimate child of the UK, US and the West in general.

How is Pakistan different from Israel? an artificial state created by the UK from a chunk of India for purely religious reasons.

[Ahlerich]

an artificial state created by the UK from a chunk of India for purely religious reasons.

if i d be british i d blame that one on ghandi

hmm and if i d be a israeli i d blame the palestinians for trying a peaceful revolution by not eating anymore

[Rush Limbaugh]

How is Pakistan different from Israel? an artificial state created by the UK from a chunk of India for purely religious reasons.

Israel was not created by the UK from a chunk of Palestine for purely religious reasons.

[Primvs Sextvs Loverlord]

How is Pakistan different from Israel? an artificial state created by the UK from a chunk of India for purely religious reasons.

For starters, the areas separated from India for the creation of Pakistan had a 90%+ Muslim majority whereas Palestine had a 75%+ Arab majority yet the majority was driven out of its homes to make way for foreign colonizing minority.

Palestine never existed, so I've no idea of what you are talking about.

Of course it doesn't exist, it was wiped off the map by a militant group of European Jews in 1948.

[jankren]

Of course it doesn't exist, it was wiped off the map by a militant group of European Jews in 1948.

Lol, now it is their turn to be wiped off the map.

God willing.

[IrishHitman]

Israel would collapse economically if the US withdrew aid, never mind military issues. Mainly because the EU wouldn't have to put up with Israeli arrogance and complete disregard for Palestinians, which we Europeans contribute the most to.

The fact that parties based entirely on religious viewpoints exist within Israel shows how far gone Israel actually is to the American secular ideal of the Founding Fathers. Jefferson in particular would be sick to his stomach.

[roy34543]

Israel would collapse economically if the US withdrew aid, never mind military issues. Mainly because the EU wouldn't have to put up with Israeli arrogance and complete disregard for Palestinians, which we Europeans contribute the most to

I would like an actual argument for this, As the EU contributes very little to the Israeli public sector, and neither does the US, Sure it might affect the government but thats not an economic collapse, So far Israel is a lot more economically stable then the EU and the US if anything.
So id like to hear why you think that Israels economy would collapse in more depth then just because you thnik so, Or you making automatic assumption when you obviously know little to nothing about Israels economy.

The fact that parties based entirely on religious viewpoints exist within Israel shows how far gone Israel actually is to the American secular ideal of the Founding Fathers. Jefferson in particular would be sick to his stomach

Funny.. Isnt the Christian Democratic Union leading germany right now?

[IrishHitman]

I would like an actual argument for this, As the EU contributes very little to the Israeli public sector, and neither does the US, Sure it might affect the government but thats not an economic collapse, So far Israel is a lot more economically stable then the EU and the US if anything.
So id like to hear why you think that Israels economy would collapse in more depth then just because you thnik so, Or you making automatic assumption when you obviously know little to nothing about Israels economy.

Funny.. Isnt the Christian Democratic Union leading germany right now?

I was referring to EU aid to Palestine.
The EU is the largest contributor to the Palestinian Authority.

The American aid is linked to political good will.
Israel has access to both the European and American markets.
Any withdrawal of aid is a political decision.

The only conceivable time aid would be withheld by the US would be a truly massive shift in regional politics, especially in Israel. It is inconceivable that such a move would not trigger the EU and US withholding access to their markets by Israel goods, or merely adding a normal tax to it.

You can't blow a massive hole in the Israeli military budget and cripple its market access, or else Israel's economic situation would collapse.

The point is, Israel needs the US to help fund its military and to keep the markets open.

I'm not a fan of Merkel, don't get me started on her.
Besides, the CDU is not a religious fundamentalist party. You need to read up on them if you think otherwise.

[gojira]

A nation that owns the rights on Holocaust™ wont go bankrupt so fast.

Also they can still sell the weapons they get from the west to some african regimes as usually do.

[IrishHitman]

A nation that owns the rights on Holocaust™ wont go bankrupt so fast.

Also they can still sell the weapons they get from the west to some african regimes as usually do.

Don't forget China.

Even the US is steamed that the Israelis have been selling to China on occasion.