Quotes

[Shadowcry]

All good Mods need epic quotes, So I decided to start a thread where we could possibly have them gathered up!

I'll begin with an epic one from Kublai;

One of Kublai Khaghan's decrees; "If you wish to subdue people before or after me, If having seized the body, hold the soul, If you hold the soul, where could the body go?"

Source-Qubilai Qa'an and Phags-Pa bLama, Sh Bira

[Arto]

Lots of Sun Tzu quotes and some from Broken Crescent.

[STELLover]

I am quoting this directly from an already existing thread in the Dev forums:

have some as well

"Do not weep. Do not notify my men of my death. But beat the drums, blow the trumpets, raise the flags. We are still fighting; finish the enemy to the last one"
Amiral Yi Sun Shin at his death-


Anyone can give up- its the easiest thing to do in a battle. But hold it together while everyone else would understand if you fell apart. That is the true strength
Amiral Yi Sun Shin rallying his men at Myeong Dong


A man can live 40 days without food, 3 days without water, and 8 seconds without air, but only one second without hope
General Kun Mi during the invasion of the Mongol Khanate 1180AD


To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting
Sun Tzu- Art of War Volume II


Why do you needlessly march out of formation at the eve of battle- for I tell you- true courage is not shown physically but is the mental victory to conquer all fears in an act of duty
Wanyan Nianhan General from the Jin Dynasty 1173AD


..For his men followed him, and his sharp eyes made even the demons crawl out of the very formations of men
Taira no Munemori- Genpei Chronicles pg211


Never in history has out state suffered much chaos
Tran Hung Dao at the third Mongol invasion 1287 AD

[Blondie_]

I don't think you should have too many Sun Tzu quotes, I think it might get a bit generic

[magick]

Why are you quoting Yi Sun Shin when he's born ~400 after the time-events of this mod?

Just wondering.

[Augustus Lucifer]

Why are you quoting Yi Sun Shin when he's born ~400 after the time-events of this mod?

Just wondering.

Our quotes section will focus on Asian-themed quotes of a Total War or philosophical nature from various periods in time pre-modern. If we limited ourselves to just the timeframe of our mod, we would not have a lot to work with.

[sokojoe]

My favorite quotes from Miyamoto Musashi - 五輪書 (The Book of Five Rings)

You should not have any special fondness for a particular weapon, or anything else, for that matter. Too much is the same as not enough.

In battle, if you you make your opponent flinch, you have already won.

You win battles by knowing the enemy's timing, and using a timing which the enemy does not expect.

In strategy your spiritual bearing must not be any different from normal. Both in fighting and in everyday life you should be determined though calm.

As one man can defeat ten men, so can one thousand men defeat ten thousand.

The way of the warrior is resolute acceptance of death.

[Shadowcry]

Our quotes section will focus on Asian-themed quotes of a Total War or philosophical nature from various periods in time pre-modern. If we limited ourselves to just the timeframe of our mod, we would not have a lot to work with.

Could the range of Quotes be narrowed down a bit? Like I could understand having three to four Sun Tzu quotes, but to me adding romance of the three kingdoms quotes or han dynasty quotes seems silly. Same with Admiral Yi sun shin. If perhaps the range of quotes could be narrowed from the late Tang to Early Ming for general/ other politician quotes, with much more emphasis on the time period.

Say like 5 max quotes from Sun Tzu should be taken, otherwise it woulfd seem generically azn mod quotes, or something like that. Once i finish my tests in may I would be able to research much more heavily on quotes of this era if you would like.

[STELLover]

Could the range of Quotes be narrowed down a bit? Like I could understand having three to four Sun Tzu quotes, but to me adding romance of the three kingdoms quotes or han dynasty quotes seems silly. Same with Admiral Yi sun shin. If perhaps the range of quotes could be narrowed from the late Tang to Early Ming for general/ other politician quotes, with much more emphasis on the time period.

Say like 5 max quotes from Sun Tzu should be taken, otherwise it woulfd seem generically azn mod quotes, or something like that. Once i finish my tests in may I would be able to research much more heavily on quotes of this era if you would like.

Well there are a lot of Sun Tzu quotes, and it is tempting but using too many of his is a little wrong

[IFJ]

Here's some from the Three Kingdoms 三国演义

"What are you waiting for? If I, a leader of rank, can risk my life, cannot you?" Gan Ning

"There are five possible operations for any army. If you can fight, fight; if you cannot fight, defend; if you cannot defend, flee; if you cannot flee, surrender; if you cannot surrender, die. " Sima Yi

"Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid. Thus the wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win." Zhuge Liang

"Do the unexpected, attack the unprepared." Zhuge Liang

[Shadowcry]

Two more

"Have you willed the common people to my side"- Chinggis Khan to Chang Chun

"A empire can be conquered, but not ruled on horseback" -Yehlu Chustai to Ogodei Khan

[Theodotos I]

I've got a good one around here by a Chinese general, I'll post it as soon as I find it.

[Augustus Lucifer]

Thought I should mention that I added a few of these to the game a while ago. I do read suggestions.

[black-dragon]

"The way of the Samurai is found in death" - Yamamoto Tsunetomo

"I've grown so old now, even if there were to be a battle, I wouldn't be able to do anything. Still, I would like to die by galloping into the midst of the enemy and being struck down and killed." - Tokunaga Kichizaemon

"It is a principal of the art of war that one should simply lay down his life and strike." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo

"If a warrior is not unattached to life and death, he will be of no use whatsoever." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo

"A man exists for a generation, but his name lasts to the end of time." - Yamamoto Jin'emon

"It is true courage to live when it is right to live, and to die only when it is right to die." - Prince of Mito

"An oppressive government is more to be feared than a tiger." - Confucius

[Shadowcry]

Good Quotes plus rep!

[jalen911]

War is a drug ........

[Wundai]

My god... the poetry in that quote above just inspires me...to slash around the Katana in the air.

ONE last time, ONE last charge!

[TeeKayYu]

"I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me" -Cao Cao

[jumong]

"An enlightened ruler does not worry about people not knowing him; he worries about not knowing people." - Zhuge Liang
"Good generals select intelligent officers, thoughtful advisors, and brave subordinates. They oversee their troops like a fierce tiger with wings." - Zhuge Liang
"Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid. Thus the wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Zhuge Liang
"To overcome the intelligent by folly is contrary to the natural order of things; to overcome the foolish by intelligence is in accord with the natural order. To overcome the intelligent by intelligence, however, is a matter of opportunity." - Zhuge Liang
"Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one." -Liu Bei
"Do the unexpected, attack the unprepared." -Zhuge Liang
"He who wins people, prospers; he who loses them, fails. Your present plan should be to seek humans of high aims and farseeing views, and you can establish yourself firmly." -Zhou Yu
"Like Weather, one's fortune may change by the evening." -Luu Mengzheng
"Learn without thinking begets ignorance. Think without learning is dangerous." -Confucius
"Running a large country is like cooking a small fish. " -Lao Zi
"To worry before the common people worries; To enjoy only after the people can enjoy." -Fang Zhongyan
"What you do not wish upon yourself, extend not to others." -Confucius
"Life is finite, While knowledge is infinite." -Zhuang Zi
"I'd rather die for speaking out, than to live and be silent." -Fan Zhongyan
"Seeing it once is better than being told 100 times." -Zhou Chongguo

“Do not follow the ideas of others, but learn to listen to the voice within yourself. Your body and mind will become clear and you will realize the unity of all things.” Dogen-Japanese Buddhist monk and philosopher 1200-1253
“When we discover that the truth is already in us, we are all at once our original selves.” -Dogen
“The warrior doesn't care if he's called a beast or a dog; the main thing is winning.” - Asakura Norikage, Japanese Samurai, 1474-1555
“Perceive that which cannot be seen with the eye.” -Miyamoto Musashi
“Do nothing which is of no use.” -Miyamoto Musashi
“You win battles by knowing the enemy's timing, and using a timing which the enemy does not expect.” -Miyamoto Musashi
“People in this world look at things mistakenly, and think that what they do not understand must be the void. This is not the true void. It is bewilderment...” -Miyamoto Musashi
“The farther you enter the truth, the deeper it is.” -Bankei Zenji, Japanese Religious leader and Spiritual mentor, 1622-1693

[Timawa]

It is a useless life that is not consecrated to a great ideal. It is like a stone wasted on the field without becoming a part of any edifice.