Is the Marine Corps really taking thier freedoms away?

[Clouse123456]

Watch this protest video its entertaining........

Right well do you guys think Marine Rucruiters infrige on the rights and freeddoms of students at Colleges and Unis.
Should they be allowed to recruit there?hhmm lets see what else?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_VJqCPh7qg

Check this one out man these people are freaking crazy!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S0W3pVn_MY

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Clouse, I really don't think you can make a thread about a YouTube video.

[MaximiIian]

Clouse, I really don't think you can make a thread about a YouTube video.

Look like he just did.

[danzig]

Im confused here, are you attempting to be funny by posting the audio that clearly indications Bale needs medication or atleast anger management or is there some other point since this has nothing to do with marines

[removeduser_487563287433]

I think they should be able to recruit there, but I think it should be passive recruitment. I'm not against advertising but ultimately it should be students going to recruiters and not the other way round.

[danzig]

Man maybe Im too tired or something all I get clicking on the link is the Christian Bale scream fest on the set of T4

[Thanatos]

I think they should be able to recruit there, but I think it should be passive recruitment. I'm not against advertising but ultimately it should be students going to recruiters and not the other way round.

That's how it is at American universities. They just set up a table, with some fliers and pamphlets, and just sit there, waiting for somebody to come up.

[Clouse123456]

Im sorry guys its late and I ed up the you tube link its fixed now
Btw the Christian bale thread I made is in THE ARTS.

[danzig]

Oh that, yes the marines have every right to be there and legally if a school accepts any federal money they have to let fed departments recruit there like any other entity. The problem here isnt really recruiting but the fact its Berkeley and the city is basically full of idealogical morons on the opposite scale of Pat Robertsons of the world. Should just destroy (if the people want to leave before it happens fine if not all the better) the city and hand it over to disney to make a theme park out of it. Its the left wing version of everthing that is wrong in this country, people so blinded by their own idealogical beliefs to the point they hear or see nothing thar runs counter to it. Nuke the entire site from orbit, its the only way to be sure....never be said Im biased though as Virgina Beach should go with it as well.

[Kiljan Arslan]

Oh that, yes the marines have every right to be there and legally if a school accepts any federal money they have to let fed departments recruit there like any other entity. The problem here isnt really recruiting but the fact its Berkeley and the city is basically full of idealogical morons on the opposite scale of Pat Robertsons of the world. Should just destroy (if the people want to leave before it happens fine if not all the better) the city and hand it over to disney to make a theme park out of it. Its the left wing version of everthing that is wrong in this country, people so blinded by their own idealogical beliefs to the point they hear or see nothing thar runs counter to it. Nuke the entire site from orbit, its the only way to be sure....never be said Im biased though as Virgina Beach should go with it as well.

Disney would just make it worse!

[MathiasOfAthens]

Both sides are ed up down there.

I watched one of the videos not the one you posted showed a hothead Peace Protester around 40s prob vietnam, yelling at a ex Marine. This goes on for awhile before another Peace Protester a lot younger in his 20s gets inbetween the two and tries to cool the old guy down telling them to stop fighting and get back to the argument. Then some Old ass Marine comes up and starts screaming at the kid for touching the other marine.
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[danzig]

Both sides are ed up down there.

I watched one of the videos not the one you posted showed a hothead Peace Protester around 40s prob vietnam, yelling at a ex Marine. This goes on for awhile before another Peace Protester a lot younger in his 20s gets inbetween the two and tries to cool the old guy down telling them to stop fighting and get back to the argument. Then some Old ass Marine comes up and starts screaming at the kid for touching the other marine.

To be fair though alot of those antiwar nuts in Berekely believe US soldiers are murdering scum, alot of soldiers would be insulted by being touched by someone who held those views. Besides when it comes down to it the people there are denying others their rights, including blocking entrance to *paid for* recruiting station there of which the city council initially supported!

[Kamos]

That's how it is in my school you have to go to them on them when they stop by.

[motiv-8]

The city of Berkeley should be nuked from orbit. There. Now we can move on to important issues.

Okay, seriously, seriously, maybe only everyone in Code Pink. But that Marine bothering to stoop to their level of babble and stupidity is also disconcerting.

[Zephyrus]

Clouse that sig pic you got looks alot like me in rl. Except I'm more muscular!

That's how it is at American universities. They just set up a table, with some fliers and pamphlets, and just sit there, waiting for somebody to come up.

This one recruiter I know from our training depot in Jersey took on a mos associated with firefighting and all that. But the guy absolutely sucks as a recruiter, though. I saw him come to our cc and try to talk with students while walking, saying "Hey you! Want to join the marine Corps?" Basically scaring everybody away.

I looked at him, walked past and was laughing my ass off. He was really shamefaced when I brought it up as soon as I came to the Pool Orientation.

I think they should be able to recruit there, but I think it should be passive recruitment. I'm not against advertising but ultimately it should be students going to recruiters and not the other way round.

That's exactly what the Marine Corps should be doing, not running around grabbing peoples arms and declaring how wonderful they are, etc etc. I was disgusted when looking at this behavior for the first time, since I thought I chose the badass branch that didn't need to sell itself.

[motiv-8]

That's exactly what the Marine Corps should be doing, not running around grabbing peoples arms and declaring how wonderful they are, etc etc. I was disgusted when looking at this behavior for the first time, since I thought I chose the badass branch that didn't need to sell itself.

Er, if anything the Marine Corps needs to 'sell' itself the most, at least to meed DoD recruit-retention numbers. It has the least funding, the least available bonuses and benefits, and is generally the hardest to be accepted into. It's not exactly sexy to the average American thinking about military service, compared to, say, Money-R-US-- sorry, the Army. Also, see below.

But the guy absolutely sucks as a recruiter, though. I saw him come to our cc and try to talk with students while walking, saying "Hey you! Want to join the marine Corps?" Basically scaring everybody away.

Yes, that's because he was being assigned to a B billet as a way to fill obligation time and get some downtime from deployment. Most enlisted Marines can either do recruiting, serve as an embassy guard, or I think one other thing. Being an embassy guard blows hardcore, so recruiting is chosen frequently. It's not their primary job, they do what they can. Some are better than others. The LT (now a Cpt) and Gunny I've dealt with are pretty good, if maybe a little forgetful which is understandable considering they cover half of a state themselves.

[Zephyrus]

Er, if anything the Marine Corps needs to 'sell' itself the most, at least to meed DoD recruit-retention numbers. It has the least funding, the least available bonuses and benefits, and is generally the hardest to be accepted into. It's not exactly sexy to the average American thinking about military service.


Yes, that's because he was being assigned to a B billet as a way to fill obligation time and get some downtime from deployment. Most enlisted Marines can either do recruiting, serve as an embassy guard, or I think one other thing. Being an embassy guard blows hardcore, so recruiting is chosen frequently.

Well, he should do a better job of it then. Scaring people away is not exactly helping those retention and acceptance statistics, is it?

EDIT: I saw your last sentence, so I'll concede that recruiting wasn't his primary job here. But if your tasked to do a job, you should do it to the best of your ability. I can't say for any other successes he may have had, but I saw a distinct lack of interest when he was there.

[motiv-8]

Considering the Marines (and all branches) have met their retention numbers every month since 2001, I think they're doing ok. You can check those numbers at globalsecurity.org by the way.

[Zephyrus]

Considering the Marines (and all branches) have met their retention numbers every month since 2001, I think they're doing ok. You can check those numbers at globalsecurity.org by the way.

Maybe later. I'm not interested in the statistics of recruitment at this point and time.

I've also heard that they would stop recruiting as soon as they reach the goal of 200,000 active duty marines. This true as well?

[motiv-8]

The goal for the Corps expansion is ca. 212,000 active duty by 2010. But that doesn't stop recruiting, because Marines are retiring, discharging, or otherwise ending their service every year.