Dam Aztecs

**Last of the Mohawks** · February 03, 2009, 01:47 PM

Aztecs just seem to over run me! I sent over 2-3 full stack armies, then 1-2 stacks until I took over America, but this time playing on h/vh instead of m/vh the AI seemed to know my plan and stacked fully and kept the coast covered! My first wave got annihilated in 5 turns then I had to fight on the sea with 5 star admirals and 9 star generals just to get there, I was playing as Portugal and Moors and England just kept killing my ships, even though I made it over to America with 7 stacks I still had 7 stacks full of crap loads of aztec mainiacs standing on the coast then I had half stacked cities of aztec mainiacs to deal with, and they just didn't stop building troops! How can I deal with this?!

**Reynolds** · February 03, 2009, 02:02 PM

If it's too difficult at the moment just leave it for a while, they ain't going anywhere

Sounds like you should sort out the Moors and England first so they don't sink your ships, then you can build a huge invasion force and wipe them out, could be fun

As Portugal you are well suited to fighting the Aztecs anyway, i suggest you utilise Portuguese Knights (Mounted) to flank the Aztecs and it doesn't really matter if you flank because cavalry destroy them, period.

If you have a patch or mod that "fixes" pikes then by all means use Aventuros, they will especially come in handy when you finnally get a settlement as they are good for defending

You should definitely use Portuguese Arquebusiers although it depends on whether you want them to stand up in a fight or be able to shoot for longer , if the latter you should use Musketeers instead cos they have longer range. Personally i would use both.

However one of the biggest mistakes you can make is to have too much missiles, yes they rip Aztecs to shreds but lets be honest if its a full stack they WILL get into close combat with you and you need to be able to handle it. Use the Hammer and Anvil tactic for good effect, with D Conquistadores or Aventuros as the Anvil and Portuguese Knights, Conquistadores and D Portuguese as the consideralble hammer

Your general can be key in these battles, i tend to wait until the whole line is engaged then run round the back and knock down their back door so to speak, however withdraw any cavalry straight after the impact as multiple charges=win and drawn out fighting with Jaguar Warriors= Epic Fail

sori for not being specific i ramble a bit

PS don't pour soldiers and florins into the Americas untl you are secure back home, srsly

**Conquistatore** · February 03, 2009, 03:33 PM

Hate to tell you friend, but there is already thread about the Aztecs and how to beat them.
Find it here.

**Spartaaaa** · February 03, 2009, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Last of the Mohawks

Aztecs just seem to over run me! I sent over 2-3 full stack armies, then 1-2 stacks until I took over America, but this time playing on h/vh instead of m/vh the AI seemed to know my plan and stacked fully and kept the coast covered! My first wave got annihilated in 5 turns then I had to fight on the sea with 5 star admirals and 9 star generals just to get there, I was playing as Portugal and Moors and England just kept killing my ships, even though I made it over to America with 7 stacks I still had 7 stacks full of crap loads of aztec mainiacs standing on the coast then I had half stacked cities of aztec mainiacs to deal with, and they just didn't stop building troops! How can I deal with this?!

The aztecs dont have any buildings . So they cant make units. They only get four stacks in the begining and cnt make any more units.

If you go to home page click on faction index and got faction it says thry dont have any buildings and cant make units. You can't be on Americas on Kingdoms since u said u were Portugal.

**Akhil_The_Great** · February 03, 2009, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Spartaaaa

The aztecs dont have any buildings . So they cant make units. They only get four stacks in the begining and cnt make any more units.

If you go to home page click on faction index and got faction it says thry dont have any buildings and cant make units. You can't be on Americas on Kingdoms since u said u were Portugal.

thats not true, i think they are scripted to pop-up stacks at certain location. cause i put like 6 full stacks into the New world (sword and bucklers and conquistadors, even a full stack of chivalric knights), they got eaten up by the aztec. the aztecs are hard but if u can get like 1 stack into the first city and 2-3 stacks outside, move them slowly up, and keep a spy to check for sneak attacks, move one stack then move the other stack to back it up, then the other stack, rite beside them, so when its the Aztec turn if they attack they would get owned.

maybe call a crusade against one of the cities and use the cheap mercenaries as fodder against them

**Spartaaaa** · February 03, 2009, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Akhil_The_Great

thats not true, i think they are scripted to pop-up stacks at certain location. cause i put like 6 full stacks into the New world (sword and bucklers and conquistadors, even a full stack of chivalric knights), they got eaten up by the aztec. the aztecs are hard but if u can get like 1 stack into the first city and 2-3 stacks outside, move them slowly up, and keep a spy to check for sneak attacks, move one stack then move the other stack to back it up, then the other stack, rite beside them, so when its the Aztec turn if they attack they would get owned.

maybe call a crusade against one of the cities and use the cheap mercenaries as fodder against them

Its easy to confuse old stacks as new in the NEW World because of all of the forests.the coasline is the only non forest area.He said they were on the coastline.

**Monsieur Alphonse** · February 04, 2009, 12:12 AM

They can't train new units but they can hire lots of mercenaries. You on the other hand can train conquistadores in America. Use them.

**kkaana** · February 06, 2009, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Akhil_The_Great

maybe call a crusade against one of the cities and use the cheap mercenaries as fodder against them

The game doesnt let you to call a crusade i think cause Aztecs have no religion. But its only my opinion we have to try that.

And best way to deal with them is hiring mercearies there. You could hire 24 units of troops there and mix them with your best troops. you ll be undefeatable with that armies.

**Yojimbo** · February 06, 2009, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Akhil_The_Great

t. cause i put like 6 full stacks into the New world (sword and bucklers and conquistadors, even a full stack of chivalric knights), they got eaten up by the aztec.

what the heck how could you lose to the aztecs with that sort of force? they are just numerious but weak as heck.

**Last of the Mohawks** · February 04, 2009, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Spartaaaa

The aztecs dont have any buildings . So they cant make units. They only get four stacks in the begining and cnt make any more units.

If you go to home page click on faction index and got faction it says thry dont have any buildings and cant make units. You can't be on Americas on Kingdoms since u said u were Portugal.

I did a little modding... the Aztecs now have a family and build and train hire mercenaries. They are now a true faction, not a 4 stack crap, i thought they would be hard when I first met them, but I found them easy. Yes you might say its hardcoded, but I managed to change the Aztec code.

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**Spartaaaa** · February 04, 2009, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Last of the Mohawks

I did a little modding... the Aztecs now have a family and build and train hire mercenaries. They are now a true faction, not a 4 stack crap, i thought they would be hard when I first met them, but I found them easy. Yes you might say its hardcoded, but I managed to change the Aztec code.

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Oh why didnt you say so. silly me

**Last of the Mohawks** · February 05, 2009, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Spartaaaa

Oh why didnt you say so. silly me

No problem, most people who mod, mod mods, if that makes sense, but I make mine for personal pleasure, and I enjoy the scripting

**Conquistatore** · February 06, 2009, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Last of the Mohawks

I did a little modding... the Aztecs now have a family and build and train hire mercenaries. They are now a true faction, not a 4 stack crap, i thought they would be hard when I first met them, but I found them easy. Yes you might say its hardcoded, but I managed to change the Aztec code.

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Care to share how you went about doing that? Im sure many of us here would love the Aztecs to act and play like any other faction!

**Last of the Mohawks** · February 06, 2009, 11:28 AM

For the Aztecs you need administration, a code breaker and scripting knowledge, if you don't have one then I cant help you.

**Soulghast** · February 05, 2009, 10:45 AM

I never found them very hard, but that might be partly because of the fact I rarely bothered to actually finish my campaigns. But their units are quite weak. Sure, they will most probably be numerically superior, but with 3-4 full stacks of late, advanced and well upgraded units, you should be able to destroy them without problems.

**axnsan** · February 05, 2009, 10:50 AM

do what i do, and it works all the time, no matter the dificulty.
bring 3 full stacks of the heaviest cavalry, upgraded to the max, and roll over the pijama wearing pagans.