Romania Wins Shelf Delimination Dispute with Ukraine: Gains control of natural gas and oil reserves

[Romano-Dacis]

And so at last, this dark chapter of communist rule-of-the-gun in our area of the Black Sea comes to a close. This territorial dispute all started in 1948 when the Soviet Union forcefully occupied a part of our territory in the sea. Today Romania has regained most of its land thanks to the norms of international justice and civilized debate. Thank you International Court of Justice!
http://www.mediafax.ro/engleza/roman...l?6966;3856307

The International Court of Justice in The Hague ruled Tuesday in the dispute between Romania and Ukraine on maritime delimitation in the Black Sea and established a single boundary delimiting the continental shelf and exclusive economic zones of each country.
Romania’s agent with the Court, Bogdan Aurescu, said the ruling grants Romania 9700 square kilometers of exclusive economic zone, accounting for 79.34% of the disputed surface.
"The decision the Court read today recognizes Romania’s sovereign jurisdiction and sovereign rights for a continental shelf and exclusive economic zone of 9,700 square kilometers, that is 79.34% of the disputed area,” Aurescu said.
The area contains about 70 billion cubic meters of gas and 12 million tons of oil, he added.

The Romanian government is already launching intelligence bids and surveys for these resources.
http://www.mediafax.ro/engleza/roman...l?6966;3856628

The resources however are not the big thing; Romania produces the same amount every three years. The big thing is that this territorial dispute, which has for a very long time acted as an affront to international justice and the recognition of territorial borders, is finally resolved. Furthermore, Ukraine has gained something too. An important first step to entering NATO is solving territorial disputes with your neighbors, so this is a good first step for Ukraine.

[CrimsonGuard]

The resources however are not the big thing; Romania produces the same amount every three years. The big thing is that this territorial dispute, which has for a very long time acted as an affront to international justice and the recognition of territorial borders, is finally resolved. Furthermore, Ukraine has gained something too. An important first step to entering NATO is solving territorial disputes with your neighbors, so this is a good first step for Ukraine.

I doubt they'll see it that way.

[Romano-Dacis]

I doubt they'll see it that way.

Their newspapers are already grieving, but it's not in their hands anymore (literally). Strategically I think this will actually strengthen Romanian-Ukranian relations in the long run as there will be less contested land and both countries acknowledge the ICJ's decision.

[s.rwitt]

Me too.

[Romano-Dacis]

Scotty (or shall I say Cimbye's double ), glad to see you have returned. Would you like to make a new thread about "resurrecting the Austro-Hungarian Empire" or should I do the honors?

BTW, even on that map Snake Island is a part of Romania's coastline. See, our borders are made by international treaties, which the Soviet Union never signed with Romania in 1948 (like it did with Basarabia, which Romania lost to the Soviet Union). The last document signed about its possession was done in 1877 and gave full control of the island to Romania. That is why Ukranian occupation of the coastline was illegal and why we went to International Court of Justice.

[Scotty89]

LoL!

This coastline belongst Ukraine

And we will also go to International Court of Justice with a petiton so get ready

[Romano-Dacis]

Scotty, it's not enough that you're wrong on what belongs to your country, you also want to be wrong on what belongs to Ukranine?

And yes, we eagerly await your petition asking for the annexation of territory from all your neighbors based on no real grounds at all. Tell me: do all Hungarians live 100 years in the past or just those who drink too muc palinka at Karpatia concerts?

P.S. It seems Joan of Arc has signed your petition since all it has is an x on it

[Scotty89]

Seems familiar?

[Barry Goldwater]

Seems familiar? :wink:

Scotty, are you - by any chance - a proponent of rebuilding the Kingdom of Hungary of old? Because that time - and that Kingdom - are long dead and gone.

[Romano-Dacis]

Ahh I see. So you plan to invade three countries which combined have a population 4x your own using the outstanding Hungarian army of... 15 tanks and 14 jets? Would you like us to tie one hand behind our backs or would that be too insulting?

[Scotty89]

LOL not three countries, we just want ETHNIC BORDERS!!!

Do you know what does it mean or just olahs don't know about that?

Scotty, are you - by any chance - a proponent of rebuilding the Kingdom of Hungary of old? Because that time - and that Kingdom - are long dead and gone.

No i just showed the borders of the Hungarian nation, we just want ethnic borders

[Carpathian Wolf]

Scotty...I love you. And I cry with a smile on my face for my country knowing that we have such a safe north western border knowing how completely harmless the blokes in that direction are.

As for Snake Island....ABOUT DAMN TIME. It will be interesting to see how Ukraine reacts. I think this might make them think they are being pinched from two sides unless the media over there explains clearly what all of this is about.

[Scotty89]

LOL you romanians are always think that we are alone

The poles are on our side

So if there will be a war, the polish army would support us

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole,_H...o_good_friends

[Carpathian Wolf]

oh noez not poland. Cause poland would so go to war with a NATO member over Hungarian's magyar garda nazi dreams. lol

Anyway to get back on topic, I hope we dont go renting out all the new property to foreign oil companies like they did with the mines in Ardeal.

[Scotty89]

Oh not again "magyar garda, nazi, dreams" : It so pathetic that you can say always the same.

You want ethical borders with bessarabia, we want etnical borders with slovakia (southern felvidék), free székelyland and ethical borders in vajdaság (northern vajdaság). Why these not the same thing?

[finneys13]

You believe in ethnic borders, but have the old Kingdom of Hungary as your icon under your name? With the Arpád colours?

[Carpathian Wolf]

You believe in ethnic borders, but have the old Kingdom of Hungary as your icon under your name? With the Arpád colours?

Scotty believes that the Hungarian Kingdom was almost all pure Hungarian and lives in the fantasy land of "Transilvania was almost all Hungarian" and "Romanians came from Albania though we dont have any proof other than some Illyrian/Dacian substratum words that number 100 or so."

[Barry Goldwater]

Oh not again "magyar garda, nazi, dreams" : It so pathetic that you can say always the same.

You want ethical borders with bessarabia, we want etnical borders with slovakia (southern felvidék), free székelyland and ethical borders in vajdaság (northern vajdaság). Why these not the same thing? :original:

I believe there is currently a Romanian majority in Transylvania and a Slovak majority in Slovakia, so unless you want to fight these two countries (and - unless God intervenes like He does in some of my wishes and corruptions in the Corrupt-A-Wish thread - lose disastrously) and then perpetrate a Balkan genocide in these regions (kick out/wipe out the majorities and replace them with Hungarians)...you can kiss 'Greater Hungary' goodbye.

[Scotty89]

I believe there is currently a Romanian majority in Transylvania and a Slovak majority in Slovakia, so unless you want to fight these two countries (and - unless God intervenes like He does in some of my wishes and corruptions in the Corrupt-A-Wish thread - lose disastrously) and then perpetrate a Balkan genocide in these regions (kick out/wipe out the majorities and replace them with Hungarians)...you can kiss 'Greater Hungary' goodbye.

And I KNOW that there is Hungarian mayority in south Slovakia


And there is Hungarian mayority in Székelyföld


I didn't say enemies i said, Hungary should reclaim her lands wehe still live Hungarians by international law not war, war was just kidding

And Hungarian mayority in Northern Vajdaság

[Scotty89]

You believe in ethnic borders, but have the old Kingdom of Hungary as your icon under your name? With the Arpád colours?

Because, the Hungarians always says that every Hungarian want the old Kingdom of Hungary back, we are not serious about that (one Hungarian witer said: "Hungarian is who feel that Trianon hurts), we just want ethnical borders, and justice will come