Prophesy of Pendor - A M&B Fantasy Mod

[altair2]

Since lots of old information starts this thread (and a little big Wall of Text, lol), going to delete and redesign exactly how PoP will be displayed on these boards, so more to come soon .. --> MP

Hi,
I'm Altair2, one of the 2d artists of the mod Prophesy of Pendor, that at the moment is on its 1.21 version, with a V2 on the way. It is compatible with 1.011 only.
I'll leave you with Saxondragon, the mod leader, words:

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[Adorno1]

Uhh, wall of text - *Scanning page*... Brobdingnagian Bards... Cool

[altair2]

Yeah i know... Saxondragon is a hell of a writer, but he's telling the history behind the mod...
Soon i'll post some screenshots.

Cheers

[Omar Nelson B.]

Looking forward to 2.0. One of my favorite mods fo sho!

[newromansc]

this mod was extemely hard to start out with.

in fact it was so hard i got bored and gave up, it seems all it was was new factions and troops for the actual conversion.

[King Canute]

any advice if i wanted to implement the lords and realms lord recruitment system to pop?

[King Canute]

shouldnt this thread be merged with the other?

[Nazgûl Killer]

I have just recently hired a bunch of Huntresses (4) from my enemy from the kingdom of Vaegris, they were in captive there.

Well, a day later (game day), they get upgraded.
A day afterwards (Compliments of Lezalit), they get upgraded to Sword Sister, the only unit I truly wanted to get in the game, and my god are they strong.
Either they are completely underrated or I have missed the discussion about them (I'm playing Vanilla), these Sword Sisters are blazing fast and are a bunch of tanks! I saw one of them getting hit by 3 Vaegir Knights, surviving, and with that, killing two of them!

On that topic, Vaegir Knights are completely overrated, as are the Kherghit Lancers, they are amazing. Much, MUCH better than the Swadian Knights/Men at Arms thanks to the fact they have amazing speed and a bows (Kherghit).

With that, I will conclude, that the Vaegirs are EXTREMELY tough, amazing archers and knights and quite the hefty infantry, they forced me to use actual tactics in order to minimize my casualties (Hold position on the hill with infantry/archers, make infantry walk 10 paces forwards so archers can fire at anything, make cavalry follow me while I flank their armies), truly the most worthy opponent. Compared to the Swadians (A year long war because I was very novice at the time), the Vaegir are like titans, the Swadians are truly weak.
Also - Compared to the Kherghit (A small one week long conflict), they are much slower but far more sturdy, I want to test them against the Rhodoks.

At times like this, I am very happy I have a mixed army of everything and everyone, Vaegir, Swadian, Rhodok and a whole lot of Nords.

[Kamos]

Everyone has their strong traits so a mix of everything is good, never really used Sword Sisters much myself so I couldn't really comment on their effectiveness.

[Nazgûl Killer]

They are really, really good.

[King Canute]

i just get hordes of nords and destroy everything

[hellheaven1987]

Either they are completely underrated or I have missed the discussion about them (I'm playing Vanilla), these Sword Sisters are blazing fast and are a bunch of tanks! I saw one of them getting hit by 3 Vaegir Knights, surviving, and with that, killing two of them!

The only reason why I ever hire Sword Sister is because they are women.

On that topic, Vaegir Knights are completely overrated, as are the Kherghit Lancers, they are amazing. Much, MUCH better than the Swadian Knights/Men at Arms thanks to the fact they have amazing speed and a bows (Kherghit).

That is nonsense; Swadian Knights can finish two Lancers in melee without problem, and bows generally are useless to fight Swadian Knights because they have shield.

With that, I will conclude, that the Vaegirs are EXTREMELY tough, amazing archers and knights and quite the hefty infantry, they forced me to use actual tactics in order to minimize my casualties (Hold position on the hill with infantry/archers, make infantry walk 10 paces forwards so archers can fire at anything, make cavalry follow me while I flank their armies), truly the most worthy opponent. Compared to the Swadians (A year long war because I was very novice at the time), the Vaegir are like titans, the Swadians are truly weak.
Also - Compared to the Kherghit (A small one week long conflict), they are much slower but far more sturdy, I want to test them against the Rhodoks.

The reason is because Swadia AI prefers to focus on range units - something that is not the pro for Swadia. Not to mention AI never has more than 10 Knights everytime, which kill the power of Swadia military.

However, I have to agree that Vaegirs are tough, due to their faster recover rate.

[King Canute]

i like vaegir knights because with their bardiches they are a good compliment to my nord huscarl's, but an army of 50 swadian knights can destroy anything in the field

[Alkarin]

The only reason why I ever hire Sword Sister is because they are women.

thats the exact reason i dont hire them

[Nazgûl Killer]

thats the exact reason i dont hire them

That's the exact reason why I hired them at first, now I notice how awesome they are.

I mean, one of them dueled against a Swadian Knight, he was hot on her tail, she made an abrupt stop (With assistance from a tree ) and slashed at him as he went passed her, he died immediately. It was awesome.


I can't find any more though, I had 5, now I have 4, but I can't find any more

[Nazgûl Killer]

Don't know why you people like the Swadian Knights so much, agreed, they are a bunch of strong tanks, but they are horribly slow, making them useless in chases.

Oh, and that shield-to-protect-against-arrows theory? Who says I target the rider? Once the Swadian Knight is off his horse he's as useless as a recruit, gets killed so easily.


However, there is merit in what you say, the Swadian Knights are really fun to have, but they need a whopping support power from faster riders to take care of lords.
Swadian Knights are very strong against infantry due to the fact they are very hard to kill, but they are almost useless against cavalry due to the fact that they are as slow as an infantry unit, which can be really irritating at times, and that is why I much prefer the Sword Sisters, Vaegir Knights and Kherghit Lancers.


On that note - I must ask, the Rhodoks, what's their specialty? Spearmen? I haven't seen any powerful units on their side - Even though they totally destroy the Kherghit Khanate in my campaign.

[hellheaven1987]

Don't know why you people like the Swadian Knights so much, agreed, they are a bunch of strong tanks, but they are horribly slow, making them useless in chases.

Oh, and that shield-to-protect-against-arrows theory? Who says I target the rider? Once the Swadian Knight is off his horse he's as useless as a recruit, gets killed so easily.

However, there is merit in what you say, the Swadian Knights are really fun to have, but they need a whopping support power from faster riders to take care of lords.
Swadian Knights are very strong against infantry due to the fact they are very hard to kill, but they are almost useless against cavalry due to the fact that they are as slow as an infantry unit, which can be really irritating at times, and that is why I much prefer the Sword Sisters, Vaegir Knights and Kherghit Lancers.

Na, Swadian Knights are faster than Vaegir Knights - don't say your experience tells you Vaegir Knights is faster, because both their equipment and status of riding is lower than Swadian Knights.

Sword Sister is basically a melee unit, so they can run fast but still die when they fight against Swadian Knights (and again, status of both units agree that).

On that note - I must ask, the Rhodoks, what's their specialty? Spearmen? I haven't seen any powerful units on their side - Even though they totally destroy the Kherghit Khanate in my campaign.

Siege warfare and cheap units; but then Kherghit sucks in siege.

[King Canute]

khergits are good in field, in seige if you survive the arrows they are dead

[hellheaven1987]

khergits are good in field, in seige if you survive the arrows they are dead

Ya... and some of their castles are designed for that ing purpose...

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

I find sword sisters to be some of the best in the game.