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    Default How should the Republican party be rebuilt?

    More conservative? centrist? Discuss.
    An interesting article on it and Steele. http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/can-the...ive-the-party/
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    Get rid of all these damn centrists. The problem the republicans have is that the party wants votes and it wants to be this "big tent." Screw ideas, you can't have em when you want to accomodate so many people.
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP226 View Post
    Get rid of all these damn centrists. The problem the republicans have is that the party wants votes and it wants to be this "big tent." Screw ideas, you can't have em when you want to accomodate so many people.
    There are no Centrists in the Republican Party. Every section, and wing of that Part is right wing economically, nowhere near the centre. Only the Libertarian wing scores high on the Libertarian wing.

    The centrists are the Independent voters, which the Republican Party, and Democrat Party have to cater too and win over in the elections.

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    Find an Obama.

    Seriously.

    Someone you can look in the eye and feel the leadership. Someone who appeals to all the races, and especially the masses in general. Someone who the whole world can recognize his leadership.

    Basically, a miracle.

    Barring that, especially if the economy can at least show signs of being better in 4 years, they will not be able to gain anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikelus Trento View Post
    Find an Obama.

    Seriously.

    Someone you can look in the eye and feel the leadership. Someone who appeals to all the races, and especially the masses in general. Someone who the whole world can recognize his leadership.

    Basically, a miracle.

    Barring that, especially if the economy can at least show signs of being better in 4 years, they will not be able to gain anything.
    We got one:



    Now we just have to build him up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    We got one:



    Now we just have to build him up.

    I don't think he can sink a basket though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ЯoMe kb8 View Post
    There are no Centrists in the Republican Party. Every section, and wing of that Part is right wing economically, nowhere near the centre. Only the Libertarian wing scores high on the Libertarian wing.

    The centrists are the Independent voters, which the Republican Party, and Democrat Party have to cater too and win over in the elections.
    They fail most of the time. Most Independents are cynics and non-voters. Because their views are never represented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JP226 View Post
    Get rid of all these damn centrists.
    You know by doing that, it'll only give the Dems more votes.
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    Default Re: How should the Republican party be rebuilt?

    How should the Republican party be rebuilt? The way all parties rebuild, at the state and local level. The county chairs recruit and groom those who are desirable as candidates. The successful politicians then move up to state offices and the to state-wide offices. The idea of a national party is fiction. If you want a national political party to join, try any third party that has not figured out the need for electing to the city council and county commision before running for national office.
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    Default Re: How should the Republican party be rebuilt?

    How should it be rebuilt? It shouldn't. Those slimy crooks should just crawl under a rock and die.

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    Yeah alienating the centrist JP will assure you a lost in 2012.
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    sure, the way fred phelps finds christianity too optimistic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serben View Post
    How should it be rebuilt? It shouldn't. Those slimy crooks should just crawl under a rock and die.
    I feel the same way with the Democrat party.


    Steele will do a good job in restructuring the party.

    2012 baby!

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    I don't think we need to waste our valuable time and effort on worrying about how a party's going to make a come back. They're just going to think of other ways to us over. Republicans are no different from Democrats in that regard.

    Instead, Americans need to be paying attention to the voting system and election laws. We desperately need to break through the discrimination of Independents and third parties. We should be able to elect the best man for the job, not be forced to vote for whoever the superdelegates think we need to vote for.

    As far as the Republican party is concerned, the only way it will ever really redeem itself is if it moves towards a more libertarian approach. The Republican Party will never be concerned about smaller government until then.
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    Alienate the centrist and your win house and senate seats but you can count yourself out of every presidential race.
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    Default Re: How should the Republican party be rebuilt?

    None of this recent BS.

    Small government. Im talking enlightened thinking small, make sure we arent getting invaded, and that crime isnt out of hand. Insure full civil liberties to everyone.

    Less regulation. Encourage people to use health insurance as insurance was meant to be. Insurance is something you have incase things get out of hand or an emergency situation occurs, its not something people should use for a checkup or a physical. This is what makes me really mad, my dad is a doctor, and ive talked to him about this before. Doctors used to give away free checkups and minor operations all the time because it was easily doable, now they cant because the government interfered in medicine way too much. My dad said he did at least $100,000 worth of visits/checkups etc for free until the mid 90s in his own private practice. Many other doctors did this too.

    Government needs to GTFO of things like banking. If they dont, it will be too late, and they will make laws forcing banks to give money to people for houses they cant afford, and then this whole housing bubble erupts, and the economy starts going downhill.....Oh wait.

    How about a party that does not give a what religion or sexuality or whatever you are. You are who you are, and you have the rights to be that person. I wish there was a party that cared purely about matters not involving society.

    Taxes? Consumption tax/fair tax please. And dont say we wouldnt have the money to do it, i recall reading that if we did away with the income tax, we would only have to return to the budget level of....1997. Theres plenty of bureaucratic we can get rid of and probably go below those levels.

    Non-interventionism. Not isolationism, but non-interventionism. We do not need to police the world, we do not need military bases everywhere. We have way too big of a nuclear arsenal to worry about an actual nation attacking us. If a specific group attacks us, hunt them to the end of the earth. If they do not attack us, or clearly show they are about to attack us, then we do not attack them. The furthest we should go between two countries in a conflict, if we get involved at all(hopefully we dont) is encouraging a diplomatic way of solving things, but we dont need to hold their hands through it and use force to insure its carried out.

    Lift sanctions. Open trade to all countries, including Cuba/Iran. You and/or I may or may not like them, some of us may hate them, but that doesnt change that fact that trading with them can strengthen our economy. Like I said, none of them are going to attack us when we could drop such a large payload of nuclear weapons on them that they fall through the other side of the earth.

    Screw the global economy if it is bad for our economy. Our priority is our country, if we have to sacrifice some of our economy for yours, then no, it wont happen. Also cut funding to all these organizations for fighting hunger and AIDS in the world, it really doesnt work that well. Also, quit talking about race. I dont want to see the headlines, GOP elects first black president or Obama is our first black president. How about, GOP elects "name" who will do this or wants to do that etc.

    Get over political correctness, because next time someone tells me i have to call a black person an African American, I am going to tell them they must call me a Caucasian or a German-Cherokee-American.

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    Let me see, the American people just elected a pretty liberal president, so according to some the way back is to go far right?

    Huh?

    We need to return to the center. The Party of Eisenhower, not Falwell.

    Sadly Nixon destroyed the Republican Center by Watergate, but long enough has passed for us to come back.
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    Default Re: How should the Republican party be rebuilt?

    How 'bout they stop running to the right and start walking back towards the center? That'd be a pretty good start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    We got one:

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    Now we just have to build him up.
    Why is he an Obama, just because he is Brown? Or does he have the same views as Obama? The only reason Obama succeeded was because of his views and ability to appeal to the Independents and younger people. He did this with his views versus McCain's views. Not because he was a minority.

    If you want to win, you need to offer something similar but different, but still appealing than the Democrats to Independents. That way is to the centre, of what I've read of Jindal, he ain't no centrist. Your old traditional Christian right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ЯoMe kb8 View Post
    Why is he an Obama, just because he is Brown? Or does he have the same views as Obama? The only reason Obama succeeded was because of his views and ability to appeal to the Independents and younger people. He did this with his views versus McCain's views. Not because he was a minority.
    He's young, extremely successful in Louisiana ending corruption (Louisiana is known for being even more corrupt than Illinois), balancing budget. He is charismatic and intelligent being a member of the new generation of politicians.

    Though he needs to go towards the center with some of his beliefs...

    The Republican Party has killed its centrists so we need to rebuild them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    He's young, extremely successful in Louisiana ending corruption (Louisiana is known for being even more corrupt than Illinois), balancing budget. He is charismatic and intelligent being a member of the new generation of politicians.

    Though he needs to go towards the center with some of his beliefs...

    The Republican Party has killed its centrists so we need to rebuild them.
    The beliefs are the important things. In that respect he is no different to the Palin bunch, sure he can win the nomination, but not the actual election. After 4 years of liberal Obama it is unlikely people will want an ultra-conservative.

    In the UK for example after 12 years of Labour, the people don't feel like going back to the 80's and 90's of Thatcherite Conservatism. So the Conservative Party has adopted a new platform, one which I have embraced, loosely based on One Nation Conservatism. The Conservative Party of the UK, has kept the policies that work...tough on crime,tax cutting etc. but have adopted a new stance on issues that have changed since 12 years ago, like the NHS and public spending. So far it has worked.

    The homophobic, religio-centric, rich-man, big-business, no-help-for-the-poor, white man platform of the Republican party is just a burning a ship. Get off quick.

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