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    "Of Gods Themselves should we descend
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    Decebalus
    Decebalus(Diurpaneus) was a king of Dacia,ruled the Dacians 87 – 106



    We Romanians like to say with pride that we, the Romans, we have two great ancestors: and Decebal Traian. If the Roman emperor known many more things, reaching the Roman Empire during his most tension, Brave King Decebal if was not so glorified in the chronicles, although it is one of the great personalities of these historic places. However, a description has been exceptional Greek historian Dio Cassius: "Decebal was versed in the war and to act cute,knowing when to and when to retire on time, mester in a trap, brave in battle, knowing to use prowess with a victory and a good escape from defeat, for the things it was time for the Romans feared a hostile. "

    King Decebal was born between 55 and 60 (AD), son of the king as if Scorilo, a funerary boat discovered at Sarmizegetusa there is written evidence: the text (if the language) Decebalus per Scorilo. Military young talent if the high pretty fast Decebal on top of the military, and when the uncle or Duras - Diurpaneus became too old to be king, nephew snapped take place at the head or the Geto-Dacian people. It was the year 87 (AD), Roman emperor Domitian start an offensive against Dacia and Getae needed a younger leader, fearless and intelligent. And it proved to be Decebal. Moreover, his reign has been as tumultuous, must lead the army many times in battles with the Roman legions and dying in the year 106: he lost a battle and it took life to not fall in the hands of enemies .

    Decebal was not as king, only a good commander of the army, even if the military has made the most: trained people able to drive fighters, labeling them "responsible for the army, the army equipped with the most November novel type of weapons (by bringing the masters of Latin), was even in the Romanian army deserters, which were so secret enemies. On social, managed to form structures really needed a strong state: administration, justice and religion. On the administrative Decebal thought and built an executive, in which each economic branch was headed by a prefect. In court were trained and brought new people to be able to do right, same thing happened in education, which Decebal thought should be developed as well.

    Under the leadership of Decebal, trade has become vibrant, even on the direction of Dacia - Roman Empire, and agriculture continued to be one of basic dacians and the main source of income for most of the large production of grain, sheep and bee products (especially honey). No industry has been neglected, the extraction and processing of metals is also very developed. Dacians processing both ferrous metals - for weapons, in particular, but also precious metals - which made beautiful ornaments, many of them arriving - from the royal treasury if - in the Roman Empire treasures.
    In foreign policy, Decebal combine intelligent military actions of the diplomatic.
    But........war

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    Early clashes

    Burebista sided with the inhabitants of the Greek cities on the Western coast of the Black Sea from Apollonia to the Danube Delta (South of the Danube) when they were occupied by Varro Lucullus, the proconsul of the province of Macedonia during the second Mithridatic War (74 BC–72 BC). The Dacians defeated the Roman army of Gaius Antonius Hybrida near Histria. As a result of this battle, the Greek cities of Tomis, Callatis, Dionysopolis and Apollonia agreed to become part of Burebista's kingdom.

    Burebista continued his incursion in the region, conquering the Celtic Aliobrix (Cartal, southern Bessarabia, now part of Ukraine), Tyras and Odessos and destroying Olvia.

    In 48 BC, Burebista sided with Pompey during his struggle against Julius Caesar in the Roman civil war. After Caesar emerged as victor, he planned on sending legions to punish Burebista, but he was assassinated in the Senate before he could do so, on March 15 44 BC. Burebista died the same year, but whether he was assassinated in a court plot or his death had natural causes is a matter that remains uncertain.

    After the death of Great King Burebista, Dacia split into four then five smaller states. The situation lasted until Diurpaneus managed to consolidate the core of Dacia around Sarmizegetusa, in today's Hunedoara county. He reorganized the Dacian army (though not yet king of the recombined tribe) and in 85 the Dacians began minor raiding in the heavily fortified Roman province of Moesia, located south of the Danube under Dacian king Duras.

    Since the first year of the reign of the year 87, is facing a difficult situation. Rome hold first campaign in the heart of Dacia. Emperor Domitian, to punish Decebalus send an army ordered the prefect Guard Praetorians, Cornelius fuscus, to cross the Danube. In a surprise Decebal pass into a trap forces novels. Roman commander falls in battle and Decebal lead Orastie Mountains booty of war: prisoners, trophies and a legion banner will.

    A year after that victory, in the year 88, a Roman army led by Tettius Iulianus attack again,entered in Dacia by Banat.
    Decebal defilelul expected from Tapae.
    Confrontation ends with the Roman victory. Although defeated by the Romans, due to difficulties encountered by imperial armies in Pannonia in fighting quazii and marcomani.
    Decebal conclude an advantageous peace with the emperor Domitian in 89.

    King Decebal clientelar of Rome and continues in the next 12 years of peace to consolidate power and the state. The centralization of state if it is accelerated, the army is trained and equipped. It initiated a vast program of civil and military, particularly in the Orastie Mountains. Try to establish relationships with enemy states and peoples Rome.


    Battles at Tapae



    The two first battles of Tapae where fought in 87 and 88 AD
    In 86, the Dacian king Duras ordered his troops to attack the Roman province of Moesia on the southern course of the Danube river.

    After this attack, the Roman emperor Domitian personally arrived in Moesia, reorganized the province into Moesia Inferior and Moesia Superior, and planned a future attack into Dacia.

    Domitian, started a strong offensive against Dacia in 87, ordering General Cornelius Fuscus to attack. Therefore, in the summer of 87, Fuscus along with five or six legions crosses the Danube.

    They encountered the Dacian army at Tapae, where the Romans were ambushed, suffering a great defeat. Almost all of the soldiers from Legio V Alaudae were killed, the Dacians captured their flags and war machines, and general Cornelius Fuscus himself was killed in battle.

    After this victory, the Dacian king Diurpaneus received the name of Decebalus, meaning the brave or the most powerful.

    The Roman offensive continued the following year, with general Tettius Iulianus having now taking command. The Roman army entered Dacia following the same route Cornelius Fuscus did in the previous year. The battle took place mainly in the same area, at Tapae, this time the outcome being a Roman victory. Because of the difficult road to Sarmizegetusa, the capital of Dacia, and because of several defeats suffered by Domitian in Pannonia, the Roman offensive halted and Decebalus sued for peace.

    Following the peace of 89, Decebalus becomes a client king of Rome, receiving money, craftsmen and war machines from the Roman Empire, to defend the empire's borders. Some historians believe this unfavorable peace for the Romans might have been the cause for Domitian's assassination in September 96.

    Decebalus, the king of the Dacians, instead of using the money as Rome intended, decided to built new citadels in the mountains, in important strategic points, and to reinforce the existing ones. This was one of the reasons for the Roman attack of 101, under Emperor Trajan.

    Dacian first war




    Before turning back to Rome in the winter of 98/99 AD, Trajan began an inspection on the Danube frontier. In the Panegirilc, published after the Dacian war by Pilinu, it is said that Traian was intimidating Decebal to prevent any offensive moves. Actually, Trajan was trying to check and strengthen the Roman legions from the Danube zone.Four of the legions were in Pannonia (I Adiutrix, XII Gemina, XIV Gemina, XV Apollinarsis) three in Moesia superior (IV Flavia, II Adiutrix, VII Claudia) and another two in Moesia inferior (I Italica, V Macedonica). Trajan was inspecting the legions, the auxilary troops and the fortifications near the borders. At the same time he was constructing or finishing roads on the south shore of the Danube. The old inscription Tabula Traiana says that the road was made by cutting pieces of rock, and that the floor was sustained by large wooden beams. All of this was part of a plan which prepared for campaigns against the Dacians.

    The First Dacian War.The Causes

    -Trajan’s intention was to erase the shame of the Treaty between the Emperor Domitian and the Dacians.

    -Pilinu refers to the lack of respect of the Dacians for the Roman Empire, proved by the raiding of the Danube Roman provinces.

    -Criton claims that Decebal humiliated the Roman Empire through the peace from 89 AD. Decebal used the treaty to strengthen his military force, accepting deserters from the Roman army. The Dacians also strengthened their fortresses and built efficient war machines. The Dacian army was prepared by ex-Roman military forces, and was dependent at that time upon Roman fighting techniques because of that.

    Political and military causes

    -The Dacian state was becoming too powerful, and the Romans could no longer ensure the safety of the Danube frontier from the Dacians.

    -Trajan had intentions to build within eastern Europe a stronger latinity, emulating the one created in western Europe by Caesar and Augustus. Dacia was to be the vanguard within the barbarian area of eastern Europe.

    -Another reason was to protect the Balkan roman provinces from migrations. Trajan didn’t want the entire eastern empire to be influenced by the greek culture, and hoped to create a powerful eastern latin-speaking empire.

    -The Romans wished to conquer all the civilised states close to their borders and the Dacians were a part of that collective.The Dacian state was the main civilised kingdom from eastern Europe which was still independent.

    -Trajan could not launch an offensive against the Parthians before he could be sure that the threat of the Dacian state was elliminated.

    Economical Causes

    -The gold, mines, and lands of the Dacians were the most important key elements in Trajan’s determination to conquer Dacia. He needed them in order to successfuly sustain another campaign that he was planning.

    -The possability of conquering new territories meant that a large number of the inhabitants could benefit from the advantages offered by colonisation.

    The Campaigns



    Decebal created a system of alliances which eventually led to an anti-roman coalition which, was made up of several Dacian, Germanic (specifically Burs and Roxolans) and Sarmatian tribes. It is documented that he fought against Trajan with an army of around 60,000 fighters, (an impressive number for the time) from which, 40,000 were Dacian, and the remaining 20,000 consisted of Germanic and Sarmatian tribes. Decebal also tried to make alliances with the Parthian tribes, even though he had no knowledge about Trajans plans to conquer the Parthians.

    Trajan built a big military road and fortifications, and also dug a 3km channel on the right shore of the Danube in a difficult area at the Iron Gates to ensure easy passage of the Roman fleet on the Danube. He strengthened his army by bringing legions from other territories that had no military problems. The auxilery forces were strengthened with units from the non-roman population such as the Maurs, Asturs, Siriens, Palmiriens, Britanic and Germanic tribes. The Roman forces used in the first Dacian war numbered around 150,000 men.

    The first military campaign commenced on 25th March 101 AD. Trajan crossed the Danube over a pontoon bridge of ships (at what is now known as Rama). At the same time, another Roman army crossed the Danube at Dierna (what is know today as Orsova), and eventually the two armies united.

    At this time, the Dacian army had retreated inside their kingdom. Trajan gave up the idea of a quick attack on the capital of Sarmizegetusa, due to discovering the burs and other tribes were requesting peace with Decebal. The Roman troops began to build roads, bridges and castrums which, ensured them easy access to the provinces south of the Danube. Trajan took his troops into the north, passing through Arcidava (now Varadia) Centum Putea, and afterwards turned to the east from Berzovia (now Barzarva) through Ai(zi)zis (now Pogonis), having as their main objective Tibiscum. Here they met with the Roman troops who were coming from Dierna. From here they travelled through the Bistrita valley, through narrow and woody paths named The Iron Gates of Transylvannia. On the path of Tapae, the first battle occured between the Dacians and the Romans out of which, the Romans emerged victorious. The Dacians retreated, sending messages of peace, which were ignored.

    The Romans entered inside the Hateg depression and started to conquer the Dacian fortresses from the mountains where the Gradiste, Bildaru, Costesi, Piatra Rosie fortifications were. Trajan's forces arrived near a fortress where, upon the walls stood the heads of Roman warriors on spikes from the war with the emperor Domitan. Because of the winter, Trajan was obliged to slow his advance into the Dacian kingdom, so a large part of the Roman army stayed in the Hateg area through the winter.

    Decebal took advantage of the winter, attempting a diversion which, was meant to oblige the Romans to leave Dacia for good. He obtained the support of his allies for this. This diversion took place in the winter of 101/102 in the Roman province Moesia Inferior. The targeted area was large and also included Dobrogea and the north of Bulgaria. The forces sent by Decebal united with the Burs on their way down from the eastern Carpathians and with the Roxolans led by Susagus, who were heavily armed. The attackers crossed the Danube with difficulty because of the ice breaking under their weight, and as a result suffered heavy losses. They attacked the Roman fortifications which, was not heavily guarded whereupon they plundered and pillaged. Trajan took apart the units from Dacia and left from Moesia to fight the ”barbarians”. There were three clashes between the two armies, and both parties suffered losses.The most important clash happened at Adamclisi, where Trajan participated in person and in which, the Romans were victorious. In this way the Moesian diversion was destroyed.

    For the consolidation of the Danube line of defence, the emperor left one Roman legion behind with their leader Laberius Maximus. At this time, Decebal was attacking the Roman troupes from Hateg, weakening them.

    The third campaign took place in the spring of 102 AD when the romans attacked from four directions. One group of the romans attacked through Transylvannia from the Mures valley, the Dacian fortress from Orastie mountains. They went to Gradistea valley and conquered the fortresses one by one, eventually trying to conquer the old Dacian capital from Costesti. Another group of the romans went to the mountain pass of Vulcan to Jiu valley, and defeated the Dacians in the area of what is now known as Petrosani. The third group went to the mountain pass of the Red Tower, where the Dacians had suffered huge losses and many of them had been taken prisoner. This group united with one of Trajan’s groups, continuing the conquering of the Dacian fortress from the mountains. In order to lower the morale of the Dacians, the Romans started to burn their villages. The last group of Romans attacked from the north east, conquering a fortification which, contained Decebal’s sister. This group also joined the Romans led by Trajan which, resulted in a massive confrontation with the Dacian army near their capital Sarmizegetusa. Initially the Romans were caught offguard, but eventually won with the help of some renegade Dacian noblemen. This battle exhausted both parties and the arrival of the winter made Trajan determined to make peace with Decebal, while still making conditions tough for the Dacians.

    The Peace

    To respect the priveledges of the Senate, Traian secured an armistice with the Dacians, sending embassadors to the Senate at Rome to grant peace. The conditions of the armistice were as follows:

    - Decebal had to surrender his war machines, weapons, technicians and the Roman fugitives.

    -They were to destroy their fortifications,

    -To give up the lands conquered by the Romans.

    - To have the same friends and enemies as the Romans,

    -To stop recruiting Roman soldiers.

    Xiphilin said that Decebal reluctantly agreed to the conditions, and so closed the peace. In this way, Trajan weakened the Dacian defensive capabilities and their external politics disappeared. They were forced to aline with Roman actions and interests.

    The Dacians destroyed their fortifications at Piatra Rosie, Bildaru, and Sarmizagetusa Regia. The territories occupied by the Romans included a part of Hateg, the south of the Banat, the territories from Oltenia, Muntenia and south of Moldavia, which were incorporated into the Moesia provinces. The Romans also left some garrisons at serveral points in order to supervise the fufillment of the conditions of the armistice. Later on the troops retreated, but for the Dacians, the peace conditions were still harsh.

    On returning to Rome in December 102 AD, Trajan recieved the title of Dacicus, and celebrated his triumph. The first coins appeared representing Trajan and his victory over the Dacians. In this way, he was trying to prepare the public opinion for a second war with the Dacians.

    Second Dacian War



    Trajan was beginning to strengthen his troops from the Danube and from the conquered territories. The armies from Moesia were strengthening to discourage a new diversion like the one from the winter of 102 AD.

    Trajan ordered the construction of a permanent bridge over the Danube at Drobeta which, controlled several access roads through the centre of the Dacian capital. Apollodor from Damascus built between 103 and 105 AD a stone bridge of huge dimensions for ancient times. It’s length of 1135 metres was sustained by 20 rock piers, the base of each adorned with statues, while the arch stretched to 33 metres.

    Xiphilin says that Decebal ordered the manufacturing of more weapons, and accepted Roman fugitives. They rebuilt the destroyed fortifications, and also constructed new ones. This plan included the fortress from Bildaru, Piatra Rosie and Costesti where the defence system was rebuilt. At the same time, Decebal sent embassadors to his neighbours to propose a big anti-roman coailition. He also attacked Iazygi, who were allies of the Romans. He rejected the Roman ultimatum, attacking in the beginning of 105 AD, using the element of suprise, despite knowing that his chances were slimmer than those of 101 AD.

    The Start of the Second Dacian War

    The Dacians started the war only after recieving and rejecting the Roman ultimatum. Decebal started by attacking the Roman military units from the territories that he lost in 102 AD and set up a trap for an ex-governor of Moesia Superior and Pannonia, Cneus Pompeius Longinus. Longinus was made prisoner, and Decebal declared that he would free him on the condition that the Romans departed the territories conquered in the war against the Dacians in 102 AD. Longinus committed suicide, leaving Decebal without any bargaining power.

    The Dacian offensive went late into to the winter and the spring of 105 AD before the official start of the war. Some of the territories occupied by the Romans were conquered by the Dacians. The big anti-Roman coalition from the Danube never took place, due to the fact that they had betrayed the Dacian king again.

    The Senate declared war against the Dacians, and Trajan responded by gathering his troops at Drobeta, which were far more powerful than those of the first Dacian war. He also made up a war council from several generals and governors. Decebal tried, with the help of some fugitives to kill the emperor, however the fugitives were caught.

    Trajan crossed the Danube on the new bridge that he had built, and went ahead slowly into the territories that he conquered in 101 and 102 AD, where he proceeded to rebuild the fortifications, the bridges and the roads. Trajan didn’t go into the territories run by Decebal, only in the spring of 106 when the big offensive began. He spent the winter in Oltenia and he began attacking on more fronts than in 102 AD, trying to catch Decebal in a trap in order to eliminate the possabilty of a diversion.

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    The Conquest of Sarmizegetusa



    With a large military force of approximately 200,000 men the Romans attacked from five or six directions. The first column went in through the Cerna Valley passing through Tibiscum, and went through the iron gate of Transylvannia, through Tapae and into the Hateg depression. It then went on through the Mures Valley and went straight to Sarmizegetusa.

    The second column went into Transylvannia through the Jiul Valley and through the Vulcan pass. On its way there it passed the Roman castrum from Bumbest (built during the first war) on the left side of Jiu Valley.

    The third column, commanded by Trajan himself, built a road through the Olt Valley which, he protected with several powerful fortifications. He entered Transylvannia to attack from the east the Dacian fortresses in the Orastie mountains.

    The fourth column left from the Roman castrums from Muntenia (built during the first Dacian war) and entered the Barsei county, through the Bratocea pass.

    The fifth column also went into Transylvannia through the Bratocea pass.

    The sixth column probably entered into Transylvannia from the Siret Valley through one of the passes of the Oriental Carpathians.

    The first three columns had as their priority to attack the Dacian fortifications in Orastie mountains. The columns who entered from the Barsei county had come later to strengthen the troops from south west of Transylvannia.

    The Roman advances were slow but systematic, building roads and fortifications at the same time. The troops that attacked in the Orastie mountains fought several bloody battles because the Dacians were trying to stop them by any means necessary. Eventually the Romans conquered the fortresses at Costesti, Blidaru and Piatra Rosie. Decebal was betrayed again by some Dacian nobles who had surrendered to the Romans. The big armies of Decebal were obliged to seal themselves inside the Dacian capital of Sarmizegetusa. Sarmizegetusa Regia was situated on the Gradiste hill at 1200m and was the main objective of Trajan’s campaign.

    In was in this way that the siege of Samizegetusa began in the summer of 106AD. The first Roman attack was repulsed so they built a parallel fortification with the Dacian one, and cut off the water supply. Part of the Dacian army surrendered due to dehydration whilst others escaped. The fortress was captured and the fortifications destroyed, along with the civil settlement and the sacred temples were burned. This was the beginning of the tragic devestation of the Dacian people and the last Roman Conquest.

    The Resistance of the Dacians



    The war didn’t end with the conquest and destruction of the Dacian Capital. Decebal, along with some of his warriors, took advantage of the confusion created by the entrance of the Romans into the fortress and tried to organise a resistance. He retreated north-east, where he had some forces from the Dacian fortresses from Transylvannia. Xiphilin says that, with the help of Bicilis, the confidant of the Dacian King, the Romans discovered Dacian treasure hoarded by Decebal under the Sargetia riverbed.

    Decebal tried to get to the Oriental Carpathians to continue the battle, with the help of Barstanis amd Roxolans. A detachment of the Roman calvalry followed him, and what is now known as Harghita, attacked Decebal and a small group of his guards. The Trajan column shows us a scene where Decebal kills himself at the root of an oak, cutting his neck with a curved sword (Sica).

    After this, the war was limited to mopping up operations commanded by Traian from his camp at Porolossum. Auxilary detachments followed the fugitives and the Oriental Carpathians, taking them prisoner. Groups of Bastarns and Sarmatians along with Dacians had several clashes with the Romans, but in the two months that followed there was no resistance.

    On the 11th August 106 AD the war offically ended. A military diploma discovered at Porolossum is evidence that, on that date, Dacia was in fact a Roman province. In this way, the Dacian kingdom disappeared and a new Dacia arose, controlled and organised by the Romans.

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    "Not being afraid of Death, and even laughing at it had longtime been a most essential Thraco-Dacian character feature, deeply rooted within every warrior's spirit. That's why it has been said they were going towards Death happier than on any other journey, by knowing it was the only proper way to acceed their God Zamolxis' Underworld Kingdom and be among the other heroes enjoying a body and soul's complete immortality, granted to them by the same Supreme God. Whereas the "Bravehearted" King Decebalus, surrounded now by only a hand of resolute fighters,was retreating through mountain hidden passes and virgin forests on the horse's gallop, still hoping to reach unoccupied lands from where to assemble a new Army and start the avenging battle, he would be ambushed by the Roman cavalry on pursuit, leaded by a Decurion named Tiberius Claudius Maximus. Since the Zamolxian Cult was not only tolerating, but yet praising and promising other-world rewards to suicide, as final means of relief for the ones worstly striked by Fate, after a last, fierce struggle Decebalus' faithfuls take their own lives, one by one. And, as Roman horsemen are also ready to capture him, the ill-fated Dacian King in jeopardy fulfils, in his turn, an untainted Destiny by killing himself. Thus, instead of making DECEBALUS a life-long prisoner in a public cage, the invaders were only able to cut off the "DEAD LION" 's head and right hand, in order to show them in Rome. His GREAT DEATH SCENE is one of the most impressive bas-reliefs, to be long remembered, on "Trajan's Column".



    "We have been ultimately crushed, defeated, but... IN NO WAY EXTINGUISHED AS A NATION! We may be proud to have had Decebalus!!".....




    This monument of King Decebal or Decebalus was completed in 2004 and overlooks the Danube.

    “Daci, montibus in haerent”
    In memory of a great hero!.......wolf never dies!!!

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    Last edited by Carpathian Wolf; February 01, 2009 at 02:43 PM.
    "Mors Certa, Hora Incerta."

    "We are a brave people of a warrior race, descendants of the illustrious Romans, who made the world tremor. And in this way we will make it known to the whole world that we are true Romans and their descendants, and our name will never die and we will make proud the memories of our parents." ~ Despot Voda 1561

    "The emperor Trajan, after conquering this country, divided it among his soldiers and made it into a Roman colony, so that these Romanians are descendants, as it is said, of these ancient colonists, and they preserve the name of the Romans." ~ 1532, Francesco della Valle Secretary of Aloisio Gritti, a natural son to Doge

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    < He taught them logic and made them skilled in reasoning beyond all other races; he showed them practical knowledge and so persuaded them to abound in good works. By demonstrating theoretical knowledge he urged them to contemplate the twelve signs and the courses of the planets passing through them, and the whole of astronomy. He told them how the disc of the moon gains increase or suffers loss, and showed them how much the fiery globe of the sun exceeds in size our earthly planet. He explained the names of the three hundred and forty-six stars and told through what signs in the arching vault of the heavens they glide swiftly from their rising to their setting. >


    This is a quote from "Getica" of Iordanes, where he say about the teachings of Deceneus ( Dicineus how is named there ), the great priest and the vice-king of Burebista ( Buruista at Iordanes ), the first greatest king of Geto-Dacians ( and Thracians ). It is very interesting to see how in those times, more then 2 mileniums ago, they know how many times bigger is the sun compared to our planet. As well, the Dacian calendar discovered at Sarmisegetuza was more correct then Roman iulian one, almost as good as the modern one.

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    Thanks Wolf,diegis!
    Thanks for some your historical comment and fact!

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    Actually how much of this can be proved?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yxc qwert! View Post
    Actually how much of this can be proved?
    We only know about the Dacian kings from the Greek and the Roman writers because the Dacians weren't much into writing (just like the rest of the Thracians).

    So the stories about the Dacian kings are as reliable as the rest of the Greek and Roman chronicles.
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    Cassius Dio in Book 67 of "The History of the Romans" wrote:
    Chapter 6: "At this time the Romans became involved in a very serious war with the Dacians, whose king was then Decebalus. This man was shrewd in his understanding of warfare and shrewd also in the waging of war; he judged well when to attack and chose the right moment to retreat; he was an expert in ambuscades and a master in pitched battles; and he knew not only how to follow up a victory well, but also how to manage well a defeat. Hence he showed himself a worthy antagonist of the Romans for a long time. I call the people Dacians, the names used by the natives themselves as well as by the Romans, though I am not ignorant that some Greek writers refer to them as Getae, whether that is the right form or not; for the Getae of whom I myself know are those that live beyond the Haemus range, along the Ister. Domitian, then, made an expedition against this people, but did not take an active part in the conflict. Instead, he remained in one of the cities of Moesia, indulging in riotous living, as was his wont. For he was not only indolent of body and timorous of spirit, but also most profligate and lewd towards women and boys alike. He therefore sent others to conduct the war and for the most part got the worst of it."

    "Decebalus, the king of the Dacians, was making overtures to Domitian, promising him peace; but Domitian sent Fuscus against him with a large force. On learning of this Decebalus sent to him an embassy anew with the insulting proposal to make peace with the emperor, on condition that every Roman should elect to pay two obols to Decebalus each year; otherwise, he declared, he would make war and inflict great ills upon the Romans."

    "Domitian, having been defeated by the Marcomani, took to flight, and hastily sending messages to Decebalus, king of the Dacians, induced him to make a truce, though he himself had hitherto refused to grant one in response to the frequent requests of Decebalus. And so Decebalus accepted his overtures, for he had suffered grievous hardships; yet he did not wish to hold a conference with Domitian personally, but instead sent Diegis with the men, to give him the arms and a few captives, who, he pretended, were the only ones that he had. When this had been done, Domitian placed a diadem on the head of Diegis, just as if he had truly conquered and could give the Dacians anyone he pleased to be their king. To the soldiers he granted honours and money. And, just as if he had won a victory, he sent to Rome, among other things, envoys from Decebalus and also a letter from the king, as he claimed, though rumour declared that he had forged it. He graced the festival that followed with many exhibits appropriate to a triumph, though they came from no booty that he had captured; on the contrary, the truce had cost him something besides his losses, for he had given large sums of money to Decebalus on the spot as well as artisans of every trade pertaining to both peace and war, and had promised to keep on giving large sums in the future. The exhibits which he displayed really came from the store of imperial furniture, which he at all times treated as captured spoils, inasmuch as he had enslaved even the empire itself."

    Decebalus was indeed very clever. He had even created entire decoy armies to fool the Romans:
    "Decebalus, fearing that the Romans, now that they had conquered, would proceed against his royal residence, cut down the trees that were on the site and put armour on the trunks, in order that the Romans might take them for soldiers and so be frightened and withdraw; and this actually happened."
    So much for "stupid barbarians."

    BTW, here are some images of Dacian artwork and architecture... or what has remained after the Romans smashed most of it.
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    Dacian temple shrine.

    Dacian wall (murus Dacicus). The detail shows decorations on the top of the wall. Note that this design was so good it was still un use even 1,300 years later. The Romans considered these walls unbreakable.

    Dacian stone roads within cities.

    Dacian column bases supporting a temple.

    Dacian burial.


    Floorplan for fortresses.


    More images of Dacian walls.

    What has remained of the famed Dacian walls.

    The Dacian calendar. I'm not sure on the details, but I heard it was far more accurate than the Julian calendar.

    Dacian vases. Note that they are worked with the potter's wheel.
    Dacian walls had parallel-piped design:
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    Archeological findings:
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    Dacian metalworking:
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    What was special about the Dacian walls (making them "unbreakable" for that time's siege technology) was the structure which can be seen in those pictures.

    Unlike in RTW, the way the walls were destroyed was with rams, not catapults. The structure of the Dacian walls, with a soft core and with the wooden beams made sure the shock of the ram was absorbed and dissipated. The flexible beams made it possible for the stone to move back and forth in a controlled way. Just having a soft core would not do because the blows would simply ram the hard stone into the soft core.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dromikaites View Post
    What was special about the Dacian walls (making them "unbreakable" for that time's siege technology) was the structure which can be seen in those pictures.

    Unlike in RTW, the way the walls were destroyed was with rams, not catapults. The structure of the Dacian walls, with a soft core and with the wooden beams made sure the shock of the ram was absorbed and dissipated. The flexible beams made it possible for the stone to move back and forth in a controlled way. Just having a soft core would not do because the blows would simply ram the hard stone into the soft core.
    That's interesting. Is this an established fact, or just a current conjecture?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SigniferOne View Post
    That's interesting. Is this an established fact, or just a current conjecture?
    Judging from the archaeological remains the Romans kept the walls as they were. That made possible the reconstruction in that picture.

    Putting something softer to absorb the energy of the rams (and cannonballs) was used on occasions elsewhere. If memory serves me well the method was used by the Jews besieged at Masada when the original structure started to crumble and also in Constantinople when the besieged replaced the fallen walls with earthworks.

    The originality of the Dacian wall was it combined the hard stone layer (which prevented the attackers from tunneling the walls with shovels) with the soft middle and another hard layer which actually anchored the stones of the outer hard layer by means of the wooden beams.

    The Dacian fortresses were taken eventually but the archaeological remains seem to indicate it didn't happen through breaching the walls. Most likely the Romans used the artillery and missile troops to clear the ramparts and then climbed the walls with ladders.
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    Hmm, apperantly cimec.ro did not like me using their pictures... I have removed them.

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    Wonderful article Vlad, just wonderful. +rep for this.
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    Thanks Noble!

    More images of Dacian architecture...



    Sarmisegetuza (also Sarmisegetusa, Sarmisegethusa, Sarmisegethuza) was the most important Dacian military, religious and political center. Erected on top of a crag 1200 meters high, the fortress was the core of the strategic defensive system in the Orăştie Mountains, in Romania, comprising six citadels.

    The fortress, a quadrilateral formed by massive stone blocks (murus dacicus), was constructed on five terraces, on an area of almost 30,000 mē. Sarmizegetusa also had a sacred precinct -- among the most important and largest circular and rectangular Dacian sanctuaries the famous Circular Calendar Sanctuary is included.

    The civilians lived around the fortress, down the mountain on man-made terraces. Dacian nobility had flowing water, brought through ceramic pipes, in their residences. The archaeological inventory found at the site shows that Dacian society had a high standard of living.

    After the defeat of the Dacians, the conquerors established a military garrison there. Later, the capital of Roman Dacia was named after the Dacian capital - Colonia Ulpia Traiana Augusta Dacica Sarmizegetusa, established 40 km from the ruined Dacian capital.
    Some imagine is from this site:
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    www.romanianmonasteries.org/ romania/sarmisegetuza
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    Nice article.
    But here is a hint for the future. If you're going to copy directly off the internet, at least have the common courtesy (and academic integrity) to say that you've done so, and where you got it from.

    I swear, sometimes I wish there was a negative rep option...

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    Arms,weapons...:



    Dacian falx






    The Dacian falx came in two sizes: one-handed and two-handed. The shorter variant was called sica (sickle) in the Dacian language (Valerius Maximus, III,2.12). In Latin texts the weapon was described as an ensis falcatus (whence falcata) by Ovid in Metamorphose or falx supina by Juvenal in Satiriae. The two-handed falx was a pole-arm. It consisted of a three-feet long wooden shaft with a long curved iron blade of nearly-equal length attached to the end. The blade was sharpened only on the inside, and was reputed to be devastatingly effective. However, it left its user vulnerable because, being a two-handed weapon, the warrior could not also make use of a shield. It may be imagined that the length of the two-handed falx allowed it to be wielded with great force, the point piercing helmets and the blade splitting shields - it was said to be capable of splitting a shield in two at a single blow. Alternatively, it might used as a hook, pulling away shields and cutting at vulnerable limbs.

    The military strength of the Dacians, well known and feared by their neighbors, was a result of their mentality and education, as well as the weapons and tactics that they used. One of the main advantages of the Dacians was given by the extensive use of the bow, especially as the main weapon of the cavalry. The bow was a worshipped instrument in the Dacian culture, more than a weapon. On one side, they used it as a weapon, for hunting and in manly contests, but it also played an important role in several rituals. The supreme god Zalmoxis is often represented as an archer, and in some moments in their history the Dacians have used arrow heads as money. Basing a large part of the troops on archery allowed the Dacians to destroy an important part of the enemy force before it reached them in close combat, and the light cavalry equipped with bows was able to deal large amounts of damage to the enemy infantry, while being very hard to stop. As a matter of fact, the military history regards the bow and cavalry combination as one of the most efficient and mobile weapons, until the invention of heavy armor.

    For melee combat, the Dacians used a one-handed sword, called the Sica. The blade of this sword was about 25 inches long and was sharp on only one side. It became narrower towards the end: the back was straight, and so was the edge near the hilt, until a point where only the cutting side started to describe a curve, so that the tip of the blade was a sharp point.
    Some of the dacian fighters used another kind of sword, which resembled the celtic model. This sword was sharp on both sides and it had a triangular blade. The celtic sword also inspired the Gladius, the famous sword that the roman soldiers used.

    The Dacians wore light armor for defense, made of tanned leather and in some cases covered with metal scales. This kind of armor offered maximum mobility, which was necessary especially for the archers. Those who chose to fight with a one-hand sword also used a medium sized round or oval shield. Very few fighters - usually the nobles - wore metal breast plates. The Dacians also wore metal helmets, with defenses for the face, but with a short back side, in order to allow free movement. Some of the helmets were ornated, as the swords, with ritual symbols or with a special sign: a pair of eyes on the forehead.

    The Dacian flag was a wolf head with a tail made of metal scales, and it was called a Drakon. The Drakon was built so that when the wind passed through it, it would make a sound that resembled a wolf's cry, which lead to the association of the Dacians with the image of this animal.

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    arheologie.ulbsibiu.ro

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    At the same time, regional diversity in Roman usage can be explained by a variety of different reasons. The invention of Noric steel during the Roman Empire would hardly mean that Gauls were its inventors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigniferOne View Post
    At the same time, regional diversity in Roman usage can be explained by a variety of different reasons. The invention of Noric steel during the Roman Empire would hardly mean that Gauls were its inventors.
    Are you saying those walls are Roman?
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    Maybe one of the most extensive English source on the Dacian Fortress system is UNESCO website
    http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/906/documents/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dromikaites View Post
    Are you saying those walls are Roman?
    No I'm asking you, have you done the objective investigation to ensure that they weren't Roman first?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SigniferOne View Post
    No I'm asking you, have you done the objective investigation to ensure that they weren't Roman first?
    http://archweb.cimec.ro/Arheologie/C...mizeg/1993.htm
    According to Romanian archaeological teams the walls date from the 2nd and 1st century BC. There were some additions from the Decebal era but none of the walls date from the Roman colonial era.

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