Britania Improvement mod

[discet]

I am planning a mode to increase the importance/difficulty of the british Isles. Just a few of the things I plan for it

Beta
1. Adding a few regions to the British Isles, taking a few regions from elsewhere
2. Adding Wales as a faction (yes it is possible, there is only 30 of the 31 factions available) - IN PROGRESS
3. Adding Units to Wales and Ireland

1.0
4. Refining Welsh Roaster
5. Refining Irish Roaster

2.0
6. Make New Britannia Campaign

3.0
7. 100 years war campaign
8. Britannia/ Baltic War Campaign

4.0
9. Western World Campaign

Map (so far)

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(if you cant tell north Ireland is now a faction as well as south Wales

Any Ideas on other places to combine into new regions

Wales Roaster (Beta)

Peasants
Spear Militia
Sergent Spear men
Armored Spearman(replacing Welsh Spearman Mercenary's)
Gwent Raiders
Shyer
Peasant Archers
Merchant Calvary
Heavy Calvary(For Tellu)
Border Horse(maybe They were in a mountainous region too)
Horse Boys (to make up for Tellu Skirmishers)
Generals Bodyguard
Full assortment of Artillery

I Need Help In...
2-D Effects - lordextra0
Skinner for Welsh units
Anyone with knologe in Welsh History

[helmersen]

Thats awesome! The one thing I wpuld like to have more of are settlements in the British Isles! I wonder, could you also put one or two more regions in Norway?

[Caesar Clivus]

Out of curiosity, what regions did you get rid of?

[helmersen]

That was what I was thinking about too

[discet]

That one tiny ass settlement next to the turks that was made by like 2 tiny islands and th other and the other was grouped together with the light blue area east of the Red sea

[helmersen]

Ok How about doing some new towns for Norway..?

[discet]

Sorry I have yet to find a place that can be grouped together to make into a new region. But don't worry I plan to make otyher provisional campains later (Britania, North West Europe, West Europe, Baltic/Britania Wars, but this is for later

[helmersen]

so no new towns? and when do you think this is done?

[discet]

Ya sorry not yet anyway

and I'm not sure I'm a beginner modder so it may take a bit, and I still have school but I'm gonna try to get it done ASAP. If you could help with any 2D art though i'd be appreciated, I'm terrible at that stuff. So faction sheild for Wales would be helpful

[Cleitanious]

I would totally download this sub-mod.

Im glad to see Ireland's roster improved. One thing you could do, without making new units, it give them access to more generic units like "Light men at arms" "Dismounted Feudal Knights" and "Sergeant Spearmen", maybe even borrow some of England's "Peasant Archers".

[discet]

Thats true, for Beta, light men at arms would be good but as for the dismounted fuedal knights I think that might take it too far, but Ulster swordsman can take it's place.

For Beta Release, I'm gonna focus on creating a working Wales Roaster

Idea 4 & 5 will be made for a later release.

The thing is I am VERY new to modding the best I've done so far is a very basic map of Japan and korea. So in some things I will need help. 1 is definatly a faction sheild, I can't use photoshop for crap.

Please bare with me for some of this stuff

[lordextra0]

Thats true, for Beta, light men at arms would be good but as for the dismounted fuedal knights I think that might take it too far, but Ulster swordsman can take it's place.

For Beta Release, I'm gonna focus on creating a working Wales Roaster

Idea 4 & 5 will be made for a later release.

The thing is I am VERY new to modding the best I've done so far is a very basic map of Japan and korea. So in some things I will need help. 1 is definatly a faction sheild, I can't use photoshop for crap.

Please bare with me for some of this stuff

I'll try make a graphic with gimp the next few days for the faction shield for wales...waht other do you need

[discet]

Umm.... any other faction logo's I need (isn't there like 3?)

Umm any skins I may need (do you need new skins for each differant peasents or does it just use the primary/ secondary colors & the faction logo?)

[Bacon!]

ooo this looks intresting, wish you all the best of luck with this Discet

[discet]

Thanks

[lordextra0]

lol yeah apart from them I meant

btw do you know of any pictures of complete shields?

also what research would help you

[discet]

like what, for wales , others from Stainless steel real life wales sheilds?
an research on whether the welsh were more gaelic or Romen oriented would be helpful

[lordextra0]

just any shield
kind of like this http://rubens.anu.edu.au/raid4/turke...s/DSCN6342.JPG
just without the top cut off

http://www.castlewales.com/warfare.html

some welsh history apparently their army was quite high in morale

also their armament
the main weapons were long spears and bows, but javelins were also used, as were maces, gisarmes, and axes. A circular shield was carried by the foot soldiers, decorated white, yellow, silver, or blue. The bow used by the Welsh was made of elm, and unlike the way in which the English later utilised it, Welsh bows were fired at close range, as an ambush weapon. During fighting at Abergavenny Castle, one arrow was recorded to have penetrated a horseman's mail covered leg, through his saddle, and into his horse far enough to kill it; another arrow was fired 4" into an oak door.


and something for the historic skinner

The warriors were dressed in a linen shirt (often red) and linen drawers; they covered these with a woolen cloak hanging to their knees, which was sometimes described as being "thin". Several manuscripts depict Welsh warriors as having only one shoe and their other foot bare - this probably allowed them to keep a balance on hilly or rough terrain. Hair was worn short, and was shaped around the eyes and ears; moustaches were popular, but beards were not.

somethign about the welsh battle tactics

Battle was preferred on marshy or broken ground, which favoured the Welsh's mobility over the clumsy, heavily armoured English knights. The initial onslaught was fierce, but if this did not break the enemy, the Welsh often lost heart. Their spirits were picked up by loud battle cries and war trumpets blowing (according to C12th sources).

The initial charge was a headlong assault accompanied by thrown javelins; this could be followed up by feigned flight (a common tactic amongst lightly armed and agile troops to lead their enemy into a trap). At the Battle of Lincoln in 1141, it was recorded that "On the flank there was a great multitude of Welshmen, better provided with daring than with arms" - as with most Celts of the medieval period, the Welsh relied upon agility and cunning as opposed to armour.

When this agility was forsaken, the Welsh were comprehensively beaten - at Orewin Bridge (1282) and Maes Moydog (1295), the Welsh stood in phalanxes of long spears, like the Scots, and were shot to pieces and charges by Edward I's combination of archers and horsemen.

Although large Welsh forces were capable of besieging castles (ie Builth), the siege tactics employed were not those of a feudal army - the Welsh did not really make use of war engines or other standard medieval techniques of storming a castle. The Welsh relied on keeping the defenders inside their castle (by a strong display of force outside the walls), and preventing supplies getting into the castle - this effectively starved the defenders out. Edward I countered this tactic by placing his newly constructed castles along the coastline - to allow easy supply routes from the sea (the Welsh had no significant navy). In Madog's Revolt, Caernavon Castle was stormed, but in this assault the Welsh came across the rock cut ditch which defended the partially constructed castle.


so siege weapons should not be in welsh rooster or at least nothing better than catapult

[discet]

Not on hand but heres what I found
http://characterkit.co.uk/images/image.php?27&1&150
http://www.medieval-weapons-online.c...-SH007-3-L.jpg
http://www.medievalware.com/v/vspfil...22281CA-2T.jpg
how are those?

[lordextra0]

as far as I know very good
thanks

lol due to you nice shield pics you saved me about 30 mins of work
thanks hope I am able to make these shields

btw check my edit