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    Point Blank Caesar Clivus and y2day
    would like to propose a new sub mod for Stainless Steel 6.0.
    Georgia Timurids Edition or GTE will replace the faction Ireland with Georgia and bring back the dreaded Timurids. PB is very excited to get the Timurids running loose in the east and measuring up the new Georgia units. CC is prepared to make some excelent models and I plan to do my best with the 2-d art. All requests, suggestions and help is welcome.

    Georgia



    Name:Sakartvelos Samepho
    Title: Mephet Mephe (king of Kings)
    Dynasty: Bagrationi
    Symbol: knight slaying dragon.
    Stregths: Spear, heavy cavalry
    Weakness: no ap units
    Religion: Orthodox Christian
    Trade: high
    Friends: Alans, Kypchaks, Alans, Armenia, Byzantium
    Enemies: Seljuks and Mongols

    Description
    Since the Battle of Manzikert in 1071, most of the region has been devastated by the Seljuqs. In Georgia, only the mountainous areas of Abkhazia, Svanetia, Racha and Khevi-Khevsureti remain out of Seljuq control, serving as a relatively safe haven for you to seek to regain your kingdom. The rest of the country is dominated by the Seljuq conquerors who are destroying your cities and fortresses, looting your villages, wiping out your aristocracy and farmers, and replacing them with nomadic tribes from Central Asia.

    You must unite the fractured Georgian territories and repulse the Seljuks, perhaps using your Alan and Kypchak allies in the north to counter there missile cavalry.

    History
    The struggle against the Seljuk invaders in Georgia was led by the young King David IV of the Bagrationi royal family, who inherited the throne in 1089 at the age of 16 after the abdication of his father George II Bagrationi. Soon after coming to power, David created the regular army and peasant militia in order to be able to resist Seljuk colonization of his country. The First Crusade (1096-1099) and the Crusaders’ offensive against Seljuk Turks in Anatolia and Syria favored David’s successful campaigns in Georgia. By the end of 1099 David had stopped paying tribute to the Seljuks and had liberated most of the Georgian lands, with the exception of Tbilisi and Hereti. In 1103 he reorganized the Georgian Orthodox Church and closely linked it with the state by appointing as Catholicos (Arch-Bishop) a Crown Chancellor (Mtsihnobart Ukhutsesi) of Georgia. In 1103–1105 the Georgian army took over Hereti and made successful raids into still Seljuk-controlled Shirvan. Between 1110 and 1118 David took Lori, Samshvilde, Rustavi and other fortresses of lower Kartli and Tashiri, thus turning Tbilisi into an isolated Seljuk enclave.

    In 1118-1119, having considerable amounts of free, unsettled land as a result of the withdrawal of Turkish nomads, and desperately needing qualified manpower for the army, King David invited some 40,000 Kipchak warriors from North Caucasus to settle in Georgia with their families. In 1120 the ruler of Alania recognized himself as King David’s vassal and afterwards sent thousands of Alans (allegedly modern day Ossetians) to cross the main Caucasus range into Georgia, where they settled in Kartli. The Georgian Royal army also welcomed mercenaries from Germany, Italy, and Scandinavia (all those westerners were defined in Georgia as “the Franks”) as well as from Kievan Rus.

    Locations
    Kutaisi: Capital of Georgia, this town is located in the rich fertile river Rioni valley, full of cold springs and magnificent green woods. The river Rioni is mentioned in the myths of the Golden Fleece as locals used to extract gold there by putting their sheep skins across the flow, which after a few hours they then combed out the gold dust from them. The symbol of a sheep skin covered with gold was later named the Golden Fleece.

    Bagrat Temple: This majestic cathedral towers over Kutaisi and is visible from any point of the city. It is perhaps the greatest culture and architectural monument of Georgia , being constructed in the 10th – 11th centuries in the days of Bagrat III, a Georgian king (975-1014), the progenitor of the Bagrationi princes. King David the Builder was
    crowned there.

    Helati: This perfectly restored outstanding monument of Georgian architecture was the centre of spiritual and scientific life of the Middle Ages, the tomb of Georgian tsars, the cult place for pilgrims. It is located 1 km from the city of Kutaisi and is under UNESCO protection as an object of cultural and historical legacy.

    In fact Helati is a rich historical architectural complex comprising the ancient monastery, the bell tower, the church and the academy set up in 1106 by the great king of Georgia David the Builder. Thus, Helati was not only the spiritual centre of the country but also the largest centre of culture, history and science. David the Builder, who wanted to create a large educational centre in his country, gathered the best Georgian scientists in the academy. In Helati there was a big and rich library, the
    teachers and scientists in the academy were the most educated people of the time.

    The main structure of the complex is the church of Assumption of the Virgin.

    We already have some great research on the Kingdom of Georgia and will give our best in representing this faction to the best of our ability. I hope you all support this and will share your own ideas.


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    Default Re: Georgia Timurids Edition

    This looks extremely interesting!
    Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they are in good company.

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    I wait the units.We have the core in mercs pool?

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    Nice, a step forward for making the game more realistic with respect to civilizations that DOES play some important role in history...

    Plus, Faction Irish can just represent by rebels...

    ....mmm... Only request, please make it as historical as possible...

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    Default Re: Georgia Timurids Edition

    *joygasm*

    Thank you, gentlemen, thank you

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    Default Re: Georgia Timurids Edition

    I'm glad there's someone determined to (unlike me) walk the walk with Georgia instead of just talking about it for years. :-)

    Anyway, what do we need Timurids for? Who are they going to replace, Scotland?

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    Default Re: Georgia Timurids Edition

    31 factions are possible delra so the Timurids are back. I'm on my blackberry now but want to say thank you guys for your support and excitement. I would like to keep the community informed so progress will be updated as we go.

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    Default Re: Georgia Timurids Edition

    None I think as they don't have any settlements...
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    Timurids are a relatively easy addition, as there is a faction slot free and mostly they just share the mongol units. Georgia uses the Ireland faction slot and unit slots.

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    first of all: looking forward to it, These are exactly the two factions I missed all the time
    some questions about the timurids:

    1. I think they will be an emergent faction, in both campaigns? If I remember right they appered very late, maybe you can add another ver late campaign were they will be playable?

    2. IN Vanilla they were just a clone of the mongols + elefants. What will they be here? I know the EDU is stuck, but there are some ways to clean it up a bit, so will there be some more different units then just the elefants?

    Sorry for my English...German Guy

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    Default Re: Georgia Timurids Edition

    yea
    i'm looking forward to the faction georgia!!
    but in my opinion raska would be a better choice instead of the timurids

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    Default Re: Georgia Timurids Edition

    Do you have any plans for Georgian roster? Is it going to be similar to the one there is in Broken Crescent (they have it very well researched)?

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    Quark did some research and came up with the following units:

    Khevsureti Swordsmen - light, hill tribesmen, upgrade to medium, impetueous
    Kartlian Spearmen - light, upgrade to medium, backbone of early army
    Metsikhovne Spearmen - medium, proffesional troops
    Tadzreuli swordsmen - medium (temple guards)
    Eristavs Swordsmen - heavy (dismounted knights)
    Monaspa Pike - heavy elite

    Svanian Archers - light
    Kypchak Archers - medium
    Metsikhovne archers - medium, upgrade to heavy
    Monaspa archers - heavy elite
    Musket Unit

    Alan cavalry - light
    Tadzreuli cavarly - medium
    Eristav cavalry - heavy
    Monaspa cavalry - super heavy elite
    Egriseli cavalry - light missile
    Kypchak cavalry - light missile, improved attack, morale

    Mercenaries: Merc building where can recruit low pool of units from Kiev, Scandinavia, Italy and HRE (franks)

    armour styles should be a mix byzantium and feudal

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    Default Re: Georgia Timurids Edition

    A very late campain

    With the Romans holding constantinople, Mystras and Trebizonde only
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    Default Re: Georgia Timurids Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by IPA35 View Post
    A very late campain

    With the Romans holding constantinople, Mystras and Trebizonde only
    Yes, it's JaM's 1450 campaign. I've already PM'd him the details on what units/characters/settlements the Romans should have. Pleased to note you got the settlements right as per the strat map

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    Yay... My suggestion of including Georgia was accepted.

    If I could make a suggestion for an additional unit:

    Aznauri Infantry - Heavy (Sword and Bow): Feudal soldiers that offered their services directly to the King of Georgia, or their direct Patron; known as Eristavs. In return for their services, these men were given land and estates throughout the Kingdom. With heavy armor, a sword, as well as a bow, these men were both versatile and dependable infantry.

    *I think they would fit in best between the Tadzreuli Swordsmen and the Eristavs Swordsmen. They also fought with spears, but swords and bows were their main weapons. Basically, they were vassals of the Eristavs overlords, so they weren't as well equipped as them.

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    Default Re: Georgia Timurids Edition

    This sounds pretty funky, best of luck with it
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    Hey, is it possible to move the campaign map alittle "up", disreguard those desert and make the Kingdom of Sweets? Just a thought, dont through rocks @ me...

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    Default Re: Georgia Timurids Edition

    if you are looking for georgian units, the Broken Crescent units have become available since yesterday, AlphaDelta just cleared them.

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=315555

    3rd post, read up to see the limitations

    They were made by me of course.

    Anyone can feel free to use my models/skins from BC for any M2TW project. That's basically every unit that in the game that isn't a Ghulam, byzantine, the new Indians and a handful of new crusader units because they're the ones made by Strelac.

    For future reference here's a rough list of all the factions I produced and in brackets the units I didnt make.

    Ayyubids
    Oman
    Georgia
    KoJ (exceptions: New Crusader units found in the BC2.0 preview)
    Sindh
    Ghorids (exceptions: Ghorid Ghulams)
    Abbassids
    Armenia (exceptions: Turkopoles and vishaps)
    Kypchaks
    Seljuks (exceptions: Ghulams)
    Makuria
    Rajputs (exceptions: New units found in BC2.0 preview)
    Khwarezm shah
    Turks
    Ghazni (exceptions: Ghazni ghulam archers and ghazni ghulam spearmen)
    Levy units

    If anyone is unsure whether the work is mine, take a screenshot of the unit, send it to me, and I'll tell you if I made it and subsequently if you can use it in your own M2TW project.

    The only considerations are this: A) you do not use the work in a non M2TW project B) You dont sell the work C) You credit me the author of the textures/model components.

    BC has been closed up tighter than a fish's a-hole for far too long and it's time to change.

    Cheers
    Right now i feel like someone spreading to word of his lords posting that the BC units are available everywhere...
    Last edited by Themis; December 07, 2009 at 06:41 AM.

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    Default Re: Georgia Timurids Edition

    this is so f-ing sexy




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