Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 48

Thread: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Big War Bird's Avatar Vicarius Provinciae
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    South Carolina, USA
    Posts
    12,340

    Default What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    Committee to review Daschle taxes over loaned car

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Senate Finance committee will meet Monday to review the tax records of former Sen. Tom Daschle, President Obama's nominee for secretary of health and human services.


    Former Sen. Tom Daschle answers questions during a confirmation hearing January 8.

    According to a committee memo obtained Friday by CNN, the group's concerns include the use of a limousine and driver that Daschle didn't disclose on his income taxes and nonpayment of taxes on more than $80,000 he earned in consulting fees after leaving the senate.

    Daschle also apparently once filed a tax form listing charitable donations to organizations that did not qualify for a deduction, according to the memo.

    A Democratic source told CNN that Daschle has since paid what he owed. None of the tax issues appeared to have occurred while he was serving in the senate.

    White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said that Daschle brought the issues to the committee's attention himself and that Obama is "confident" he will be confirmed.

    Daschle, 61, of South Dakota, served in the Senate from 1987 to 2005 and served as Democratic leader from 1995 until after he was defeated in a re-election bid in 2004.

    He has been a confidant and adviser to Obama, and it was not a surprise when Obama picked him for a role in his administration.

    "The president has confidence that Sen. Daschle is the right person to lead the fight for health care reform," Gibbs said Friday. "In preparation for his nomination, Sen. Daschle and his accountant identified some tax issues and fixed them. They filed an amended return with the IRS and made payments with interest."


    Jim Manley, spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, said Daschle would be confirmed.

    "He has a long and distinguished career and record in public service and is the best person to help reform health care in this country," Manley said. "Sen. Reid looks forward to a swift hearing and is confident Daschle will be confirmed."

    Sen. Charles Grassley, the ranking Republican member of the committee, said Friday that Daschle's confirmation process has been the same as every other he's participated in since 2001. He said the process "established certain tax violations, for which the nominee has amended or is amending returns."

    He said the information that was discovered will be made public now that all committee members have been made aware of it.

    "The public's business ought to be public, and committee members must weigh all the facts of a nominee's record," he said in a written statement.

    A congressional source also said the committee has looked at several trips Daschle took while he was out of office on the private jet of Educap, a nonprofit group that works to help college students get loans.

    The finance committee must sign off on Daschle's nomination before the full senate votes on whether to confirm him. Monday's meeting will not be a confirmation hearing, and no vote is expected.
    CNN

    Apparently Obuma has has an affectation for nominating people whose understanding of tax law is somewhat below that of a high school drop out (a key democrat constituency btw.) Tom Daschle you were a ing senator. You wrote the damned laws. How stupid does Obama think we are?
    Last edited by Big War Bird; January 31, 2009 at 06:14 AM.
    As a teenager, I was taken to various houses and flats above takeaways in the north of England, to be beaten, tortured and raped over 100 times. I was called a “white slag” and “white ****” as they beat me.

    -Ella Hill

  2. #2

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    Obvouisly because this guy didn't pay his Taxes its Obama's fault.

  3. #3

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xen View Post
    Obvouisly because this guy didn't pay his Taxes its Obama's fault.
    This is like the third or fourth nomination by Obama that has questionable standards and/or broke the law.

    What is he doing?

    Unless it's just that for some reason members of government are now being caught left and right as a result of their protection being gone.
    Heir to Noble Savage in the Imperial House of Wilpuri

  4. #4
    Big War Bird's Avatar Vicarius Provinciae
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    South Carolina, USA
    Posts
    12,340

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xen View Post
    Obvouisly because this guy didn't pay his Taxes its Obama's fault.

    Did I say that? Obama nominated him with the knowledge that he is a tax cheat. That is Obama's fault is it not?
    As a teenager, I was taken to various houses and flats above takeaways in the north of England, to be beaten, tortured and raped over 100 times. I was called a “white slag” and “white ****” as they beat me.

    -Ella Hill

  5. #5
    Romios's Avatar Senator
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Athens, Tsiboundi
    Posts
    1,299

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    I'm not looking to start a debate here but isn't it true that the federal income tax law does not exist? I mean, if that is true then technically those people did not break any laws...
    Homo homini lupus

  6. #6
    MaximiIian's Avatar Comes Limitis
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Louisville, Kentucky
    Posts
    12,890

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Romios View Post
    I'm not looking to start a debate here but isn't it true that the federal income tax law does not exist?
    O__o

    Er...we've had Federal income tax legislation since the 1890's. Get your straight, bub.

  7. #7
    Romios's Avatar Senator
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Athens, Tsiboundi
    Posts
    1,299

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaximiIian View Post
    It's good that you are so sure about such a debatable matter, as to insult others. Keep it up.

    It's funny though cause even in that wiki-link you provided there are doubts about wether or not that law corresponds to the constitution.
    Homo homini lupus

  8. #8
    Finn's Avatar Total Realism
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Boston area
    Posts
    4,233

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    It does seem a little odd that the party of high taxes, has so many key members that somehow fail to pay their own taxes.


  9. #9
    Big War Bird's Avatar Vicarius Provinciae
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    South Carolina, USA
    Posts
    12,340

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    It does seem a little odd that the party of high taxes, has so many key members that somehow fail to pay their own taxes.
    Well that is the democrat mindset isn't it? Their electoral strategy is to raise taxes one people who are not their voters, their voters being high school drop outs, welfare recipients, other generic failures and even a smattering of people who think they are failures when they really aren't. No wonder since they positively identify with those people so closely that they might think that the laws they write do not apply to themselves. It is probably something of a shock to Daschle to realize that the laws he wrote to get himself elected designated him as an "enemy combatant."
    Last edited by Big War Bird; January 31, 2009 at 09:13 AM.
    As a teenager, I was taken to various houses and flats above takeaways in the north of England, to be beaten, tortured and raped over 100 times. I was called a “white slag” and “white ****” as they beat me.

    -Ella Hill

  10. #10

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    their (Democrat) voters being high school drop outs, welfare recipients, other generic failures and even a smattering of people who think they are failures when they really aren't.
    Actually, if you had taken the time to think before talking out of your rear-end...

    The educational level of people who voted for Obama far exceeded those who voted for the other guy. Rural hicks don't usually go in much for higher education. Some might say those who voted Democrat are those who can think for themselves. I myself have a doctorate. How about you BWB?

    I guess you think that CEOs who rape their companies for 100s of millions and then stand with hands extended for public bailouts is not welfare? Why, because it's so many magnitudes higher of welfare it doesn't matter? My education tells me differently.

    Generic failures? Did you mean genetic perhaps? Like in Black?

    Should I think myself a failure then when I've locked in quite a bit of money at 10% return, forever, over the past month? Most of it tax-sheltered in retirement accounts? Oh darn, I'm not following the typical Republican banker model of indentured servitude with my life.

    What a failure I am. Along with a significant percentage of other Americans who raised Obama's victory to a majority vote, vs 14% of those "generic failures" of his race.
    "oooh a gypsy wind is blowing warm tonight, sky is starlit and the time is right. Now you're telling me you have to go...before you do there's something you should know." - Bob Seger

    Freedom is the distance between church and state.

  11. #11
    fatsheep's Avatar Civitate
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Somewhere
    Posts
    1,931

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    Well that is the democrat mindset isn't it? Their electoral strategy is to raise taxes one people who are not their voters, their voters being high school drop outs, welfare recipients, other generic failures and even a smattering of people who think they are failures when they really aren't. No wonder since they positively identify with those people so closely that they might think that the laws they write do not apply to themselves. It is probably something of a shock to Daschle to realize that the laws he wrote to get himself elected designated him as an "enemy combatant."
    Yes.... 50+% of our nation is made up of the people you just listed? Generic failures? I think not...

    It's one thing to have strong opinions, it's another thing to allow them to warp your view of the world and say things like that ^^^.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rush Limbaugh
    I still think Obama will lose. That or america has gotten so dumb we deserve him.
    - October 25th, 2008

  12. #12
    Big War Bird's Avatar Vicarius Provinciae
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    South Carolina, USA
    Posts
    12,340

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikelus Trento View Post
    Actually, if you had taken the time to think before talking out of your rear-end...
    Why the hate

    The educational level of people who voted for Obama far exceeded those who voted for the other guy. Rural hicks don't usually go in much for higher education. Some might say those who voted Democrat are those who can think for themselves. I myself have a doctorate. How about you BWB?
    I guess I shoukld also have included those people who are competent in their professions but otherwise intellectual incompetent and perfer that the important personal life decisions be left to government. And of course there are also those that want to use the power of government control lives and force as many people as possible to depend on government

    I guess you think that CEOs who rape their companies for 100s of millions and then stand with hands extended for public bailouts is not welfare? Why, because it's so many magnitudes higher of welfare it doesn't matter? My education tells me differently.
    Thank you for reinforcing my notion of the democrat party.

    Generic failures? Did you mean genetic perhaps? Like in Black?
    No. Again why the hate? Is everything about race with you? But thank you for reinforcing my notion of the democrat party.

    Should I think myself a failure then when I've locked in quite a bit of money at 10% return, forever, over the past month? Most of it tax-sheltered in retirement accounts? Oh darn, I'm not following the typical Republican banker model of indentured servitude with my life.
    What are you talking about? If any party wants people permanently indebted and Dependant on government it is the democrat party. But thank you for reinforcing my notion of the democrat party.


    What a failure I am.
    That's for you to decide. You need to take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself a few questions such as to whether you feel like you have lived up to your potential, or whether you are capable of caring for your own needs for the rest of your life, for example.

    Along with a significant percentage of other Americans who raised Obama's victory to a majority vote, vs 14% of those "generic failures" of his race.
    Wow more race baiting. How does it feel to be so wrapped up in racial politics? Please tell as I don't know what it is like to be that wrapped up in racial identifies. Personally I think I'd ashamed of myself if I obsessed over race so much.

    Quote Originally Posted by fatsheep
    Yes.... 50+% of our nation is made up of the people you just listed? Generic failures? I think not...

    It's one thing to have strong opinions, it's another thing to allow them to warp your view of the world and say things like that ^^^.
    My opinion of the democrat party is daily reinforced by the evidence.
    Last edited by Big War Bird; January 31, 2009 at 10:51 AM.
    As a teenager, I was taken to various houses and flats above takeaways in the north of England, to be beaten, tortured and raped over 100 times. I was called a “white slag” and “white ****” as they beat me.

    -Ella Hill

  13. #13

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    Its starting to look like a pre-request for Obumas selections.
    I have nothing against the womens movement. Especially when Im walking behind it.


  14. #14

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikelus Trento View Post
    Actually, if you had taken the time to think before talking out of your rear-end...
    Actually if you had taken the time to look at the polling data you'd have been less inclinded to tell him he was speaking out of his ass.

    Educational Level Break Down
    No High School : Obama-64% Mccain-32%
    HS Grad : Obama-52% Mccain-46%
    Some College : Obama-51% Mccain-47
    College Grad : Obama-50% Mccain-48%
    Post Grad : Obama-58% Mccain-40%

    So far exceeded? Um no, especially in regards to high school dropouts who vastly voted for Obama more then Mccain while the middle was all but even and only the post grades votes overwhelming for Obama. And somehow I doubt the vast majority of those drop out were "rural hicks" (nice racist stereotype) given their vote for Obama.
    Last edited by danzig; January 31, 2009 at 06:03 PM.

  15. #15

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    Actually if you had taken the time to look at the polling data you'd have been less inclinded to tell him he was speaking out of his ass.

    Educational Level Break Down
    No High School : Obama-64% Mccain-32%
    HS Grad : Obama-52% Mccain-46%
    Some College : Obama-51% Mccain-47
    College Grad : Obama-50% Mccain-48%
    Post Grad : Obama-58% Mccain-40%

    So far exceeded? Um no, especially in regards to high school dropouts who vastly voted for Obama more then Mccain while the middle was all but even and only the post grades votes overwhelming for Obama. And somehow I doubt the vast majority of those drop out were "rural hicks" (nice racist stereotype) given their vote for Obama.
    A source would be nice. And to point out, that "No High School" category could be switched with "poverty stricken".
    They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more.

  16. #16
    Count of Montesano's Avatar Civitate
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Washington State
    Posts
    2,259

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    Well that is the democrat mindset isn't it? Their electoral strategy is to raise taxes one people who are not their voters, their voters being high school drop outs, welfare recipients, other generic failures and even a smattering of people who think they are failures when they really aren't. No wonder since they positively identify with those people so closely that they might think that the laws they write do not apply to themselves. It is probably something of a shock to Daschle to realize that the laws he wrote to get himself elected designated him as an "enemy combatant."
    Big War Bird, the Democratic party has a large number of extremely well-educated and successful people, just like there is a sizable number of Bubba mouth breathers who always vote Republican. It's one of the reasons I remain independent - since both sides have both a good number of honorable people, idiots, and total crooks.

    BTW, tax dodging is a favorite occupation of the rich on both the left and the right.

  17. #17
    Zephyrus's Avatar Protector Domesticus
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    4,598

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    Oh no! Obama nominated a politician with questionable standards!?? The sky is falling and Christ is coming! Grab your torches and bibles, gahahahahah!

    Get a ing clue, guys. This stuff was off the scale in the Bush administration and nobody did anything to stop him. What makes you think your opinion of his nomination matters this time around?
    SEMPER FIDELIS Remember Constantinople Κωνσταντινούπολη


  18. #18

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    Because its easy for them to want to collect your money just dont ask them for theirs.
    I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery. But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes: If you F___ with me, I'll kill you all.
    - Marine General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders

    Nostalgia aint as good as it used to be

  19. #19
    Zephyrus's Avatar Protector Domesticus
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    4,598

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pickle_mole View Post
    Because its easy for them to want to collect your money just dont ask them for theirs.


    You got the Republican Party's collective nail on the head!
    SEMPER FIDELIS Remember Constantinople Κωνσταντινούπολη


  20. #20
    JP226's Avatar Dux Limitis
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    16,973

    Default Re: What is it with Democrats and not paying taxes?

    Let's see, Billary has money issues over where the cash came from. The new AG was caught up in the Clinton pardoning scandal... We all remember Geitner and now this doofus. Gates brought in a lobbyist after the lobbying hullabaloo and the response was "hey are rules are tough, it's ok we break them." I think there was another lobbyist in there somewhere. Of course Obama's already paid off the trial attorneys with that law he signed the other day and now he's in the process of paying off the unions. It's just quite alot for the first week and a half. Obama is not exactly the cleanest politican we've brought in, but then again what do you expect? He's Chicago.
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •