Lithuania Regular Crossbowmen.... completely wrong

**♔Greek Strategos♔** · January 30, 2009, 08:26 PM

in the battlemap Lithuania Regular Crossbowmen are completely wrong.... something with the mess or textures maybe anyway this is not a very serious bug... but its still annoying for my game....anyone with the same problem?????? a solution or fix?????? thanks.....

**Taiji** · January 31, 2009, 12:27 PM

Hmm I see what you mean, I will take a look at this - hopefully fix it

I don't get it, fixed lithuanian regular archer's weapon but all looks fine with crossbowmen, I guess these issues have started since incorporating Blueoran's work, maybe Repman knows something about this.

**♔Greek Strategos♔** · February 01, 2009, 11:32 AM

I hope you can fix it Taiji.... its not very important issue but you know.... its annoying among my perfect Lithuanian soldies to see this monsters.....xexe.... Repman said at some point as i remeber that this problem was fixed.... but anyway if someone knows a fix?????? thanks for the reply Taiji if you manage to solve it please tell me....

**MADTAO** · February 04, 2009, 02:20 PM

Dlv team can use many new and old fixsed units ,also as compleate Teuton rooster from "Baltic crusades".

it will be easer now becouse it is based on Kingdoms.
In old version there is bugs with Lith Regular archers ,Noble son cavalry UW map.It will be hard to fix them without remodeling.
Also wish that DLV look more for realistic Lithuanian rooster ,otherway some mods leave CA vanilla units like fantasy monks with Scythes

**ivanhoex** · February 04, 2009, 03:55 PM

we will look up your rooster up and down (in fact we have already started).
hope you dont mind if we use your models in a different fashion as designed.

a little question about that, the models shown in your presentation have also (not visible) upgrades or every upgrade available is showcased?

because if units are not easy to upgrade, we might use some of the merc troops to fill that role, and even cut some of the variation on the rooster in order to get fully upgradeable units

(if we actually had an infinite amount of available units at EDU then that wont be necessary at all, much to our taste offcourse)

it will help our work (A LOT!!!!!) to know in advance what type of animations have each unit, most important in all missile troops but also in all melee troops with non predictable secondary weapons (as a spear cavalry that swaps into one handed sword and no shield)
(is the secondary weapon an axe and a shield or it is a sword? it is a two handed axe? a dagger? etc.)

and most important of all: do your units accept standard DLV animations (and soon PB´s animations)?

if you have some kind of calc sheet that separates each unit in training quality, type of armor, upgradeable levels and secondary weapons then it will be easier for us to merge them.
(please send one to me and a other one to taiji)

as shown in taijis attempt on importing rusichi units, it is hard to make it work when more than one nation shares a unit

btw, can you give a hint on how to fix our kiev archer militia? i have been asking for a fix on them since i can remember XD

did i said how much we appreciate to be able to incorporate your lit stuff on dlv? we totally love it =P

**MADTAO** · February 05, 2009, 09:46 AM

Lithuanians dont have upgraides.
But yes, form all Lith rooster and mercenaries you can make smaler rooster but with nice upgraides.
Some of teutons have upgraides ,mostly just armor texture change.

hope you dont mind if we use your models in a different fashion as designed.

Of course i dont mind ,posibly you can made them better.Just curios what you do want to change ? There can be body texture or equipment bugs again if details dont fit.

All nit animations can be readed in Battle models file.

do your units accept standard DLV animations (and soon PB´s animations)?

Cant say for sure ,but dont have reason that they cant work.I dont use new body type names or skeleton.

btw, can you give a hint on how to fix our kiev archer militia? i have been asking for a fix on them since i can remember XD

What bug it have ?In baltic crusades i also have imported Rusichi units ,they work well for me .Just Cavalry militia dont have secondary weapon.

TNX!LUCK!

**ivanhoex** · February 05, 2009, 11:02 AM

as per different fashion i meant to have them stop being a unit on themselves and turn out to be just and upgrade model, which i am happy you agree =)

about archer militia, that militia comes from older times, its not from rusichi (god knows i want otherwise but its up to taiji) it has problems with uvw too. it has been informed that same unit with apparently same model used by novgorod has not the same problem

i propposed to give novgorod´s textures and model to the kievan one, because they are plain gray (with no distinction between factions whatsoever) and therefore should be able to be used by all factions the same..

taiji said that he tried to fix it (after i said the stuff above) and he could not... i have almost not touched the model db and i know its way too dangerous to do so by just improvising..

**Taiji** · February 05, 2009, 11:19 AM

I tried a Rusichi unit (mesh and texture) but it had the same problem as ee_archer_militia. It worked perfectly for all factions except for kiev where the textures had messed up just like with ee_archer_militia.

Yes you read correctly. It makes no sense to me at all.