first thing you build?

**caledonius** · January 30, 2009, 03:34 PM

Was wondering what is the very first building you build and where:hmmm:
I always build an Academy in Rome first

**Tiberius Tosi** · January 30, 2009, 05:37 PM

Temples if needed, otherwise roads

**Quinn Inuit** · January 30, 2009, 10:27 PM

Ports, roads, basic farms (L1/L2), a single academy somewhere, and stone wall upgrades, in roughly that order.

**Clearchus of Sparta** · February 06, 2009, 08:01 AM

Anything that generates income

**Delvecchio1975** · February 06, 2009, 09:13 AM

If I'm under pressure and i have money, barracks; if i'm not under pressure and have money, barracks; if i'm not under pressure and have no money, mines/ports/roads (that order); if i'm under pressure and i have no money, roads, barracks I, ports, barracks II, mines, barracks III and up.

governing is a science

**Fridericus Rex** · February 06, 2009, 10:36 AM

In the following sequence for Rome:
1. Roads (serves both, economy and troop transports) - all provinces
2. Armory - in one city and where possible
3. Academy - in Rome only first
4. Markets - all cities
5. Temple - Mars only in three troop producing cities, the rest Jupiter
6. Harbors

This set-up gives a good economy in about 20 turns.

Hope, that helps.

**woksape** · February 06, 2009, 05:22 PM

very first thing I build is a port and an academy in rome

latter I concentrate on upgrading the roads and farms ASAP

**Strasbourg** · February 06, 2009, 08:42 PM

Roads, lots and lots of roads.

**thebull0425** · February 07, 2009, 11:12 AM

Why academy?

**Fridericus Rex** · February 07, 2009, 11:27 AM

Academy is very important for new and old generals - leave them for some turns in the city with the academy before sending them to another city and they will gain managerial traits.
Important when you have an unruly city to passivize.

**pannonian** · February 08, 2009, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Fridericus Rex

Academy is very important for new and old generals - leave them for some turns in the city with the academy before sending them to another city and they will gain managerial traits.
Important when you have an unruly city to passivize.

In RTR, for pacification, the most important activity is fighting battles. It's pretty easy to get enough victories to get up to Conqueror, which gives +6 influence (that's 30% public order). Nothing academies and temples offer can compete with this in terms of efficiently pacifying cities. However, academies and beneficial temples offer other traits and ancillaries, which bump up management and other money-generating items. Other than filling up with relatively useless ancillaries as well as the useful ones, the only minus to an academy is the PublicAtheism line of traits, which adds to unrest. However, if the FM becomes a Victor, the influence more than compensates for this, while the management traits come into their own, often resulting in governors with 10 management and 10 influence (with suitable ancillaries).

Something I'd like is a review of the ancillaries, cutting down on those which duplicate effects without adding flavour, and adding more flavour ancillaries and perhaps traits a la EB or VII.

**woksape** · February 07, 2009, 12:09 PM

just as fridericus rex said they are important for generals and cities. Also they give you battlefield recovery ancillaries, which are incredibly useful. Also, they give you better influence and management traits. Nothing beats an academy early on when other cultures begin with them. Would you rather have a ruler trained only in religion? Not me. I want a well educated manager of my cities and towns as soon as possible.